mizzou15 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I sign Bowe. Hartline takes a marginal increase > or hits the door and I still draft a WR w/ 1 of > the first 3 picks if Hartline comes or goes. No question that a Hartline signing needs to be reasonable. But losing him and the chemistry he had with the QB is a setback for Tannehill. I would rather re-sig
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Not a chance. Not with the red flag on his migraine issues, and his repeated issues for confrontations with coaches. Pretty safe to assume that the latter means he is of no interest to Philbin.
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eesti Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > And Nelson was a second round pick who didn't turn > in a decent season until year 4. Well, he was decent in year 3. And it's a comparison to Nelson's skill set, not to how pro ready Nelson was coming out of college. People may not be crazy about Allen because he doesn't come from a flashy program and isn't a
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JC Wrote: > If those > comments are from guys who faced Smith while he > was a rookie, that info would have less weight, > assuming Smith's play has improved since then. I would say he has regressed since 2010. After he was benched for Jason Allen, he rallied back and played really well, although he dropped a boatload of INTs. The same can't be said for the last two years, when
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berkeley223 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > all this jonas gray talk is reminding me of autry > denson who people were all over on this board a > few seasons ago. > remember him? me either. At 205, Denson was a bit undersized. Although, he did hang on our roster for 2 years. Gray is 225. Did anyone notice what Kory Sheets did in the CFL thi
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THE Truth Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > dolfanmark Wrote: > > > > > If you look at Green Bay's history with > drafting > > WRs while Philbin was there, route running, > hands, > > and run after catch ability all seemed to be > more > > important than size or elite speed. > > > All true mark,
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Some of the reports I have read say that Keenan Allen is an ideal fit in a WCO. I think he will be one to pay attention to at he combine. If you look at Green Bay's history with drafting WRs while Philbin was there, route running, hands, and run after catch ability all seemed to be more important than size or elite speed.
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I disagree about needing a 4th RB. If you go back to what Sherman says he really envisions for this offense is 90 plays per game, with about a 50/50 run/pass split. To pull that off, you need 3 RBs to contribute every game. And in that case, you have to carry 4 RBs for depth. People shouldn't sleep on Jonas Gray. He could be a sleeper. And for a veteran pickup, because I would not count on
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eesti Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I am starting to come around to the thinking that > Jennings may be our best bet plus he wants to be > here. > > I think Bowe will be a better red zone target but > Jennings may be better for our offense all > around....deep threat etc. > > Sporting News has Jennings as the #3 best free
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Eesti is right. Hartline is a very good #2. That said, his skills don't make him a great red zone threat. He's not real physical, and he does not get much separation on the short quick routes. Throw in that with our current weapons, he draws extra attention in the red zone, and it's going to be difficult for him until he gets a different supporting cast. If Hartline did what he did this year in o
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Hooligan2 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > As I recall there were very few deep balls thrown > to Harline this past season. Except for the home > run in the Arizona game most of the rest were > overthrown or underthrown. Connect on a couple of > those and we wouldn't be criticizing his lack of > production. You could argue that he's not fas
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eesti Wrote: > > I believe Dwayne Bowe played Flanker and Slot in > KC for the most part. In 2012, Bowe ran 4% of his routes out of the slot. In 2011, it was 7.3%. Over that time, Dexter McCluster or Steve Breaston served as the primary slot WR. PFF doesn't break down his snaps on the outside by X or Z, but from anecdotal stuff from google, it seems like he has played plenty
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Victor Cruz ran 70% of his routes from the slot WR position. We need a Split End (X) WR more than anything else, with Hartline moving back to Flanker (Z). Can Cruz carry that load? I don't know, because he hasn't been asked to fill that role so far.
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So, that's another article about Wallace from before the 2012 season, when he was actually forced to run more of the shorter routes. Here's the main thing I can't get by with Wallace. Assuming that he will be the most sought after WR on the market, why would he pick Miami? There is no reason for him to do so, unless we significantly overpay him compared to what other teams are offering. He's n
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tsstamper Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I understood getting rid of Marshall last year > without a backup plan...didn't like it, but > understood. He was toxic and expensive. > > Bess is a good guy to have on the team and serves > an important role. He does have some HUGE gaps in > his game, namely speed but also being a red-zone
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realist Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > True enough....but my point is more that Ireland > is the one who is under pressure and in an effort > to secure HIS OWN job, he may make some decsions > that Philbin would not. Being in sync with Philbin, and getting him players who will be successful in his system, is the safest way Ireland can keep j
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ChyrenB Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Okay but in a run from 1969 to about who knows > when and at least up to 1982 that's a very few. I > would still say with confidence that Shula built > his teams mainly from the draft. > > YOU GUYS on the other hand are trading junkies and > seem to think that the way you build a team > now
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Philbin would never even consider adding that kind of attitude to the locker room.
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It all depends on what happens in free agency. I think we will add a WR and a pass rushing DE like Michael Bennett or Michael Johnson. That would negate the need to go WR or DE in the first two rounds.
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2012 Targets of 20 or more yards downfield for free agents: Brian Hartline- 25 targets, 11 catches, 1 drop Brandon Gibson- 17 targets, 8 catches, 1 drop Mike Wallace- 31 targets, 6 catches, 2 drops Dwayne Bowe- 22 targets, 5 catches, 1 drop Greg Jennings- 8 targets, 1 catch, 1 drop Domenik Hixon- 8 targets, 3 catches, 1 drop
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jlyell13 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Amendola could be a steal and less of a diva Amendola is small, slow (4.6), and has averaged 8.8 yards per catch for his career. 8.8!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We can find an undrafted guy who can do better than that. A guy who averages less than 9 yards per catch doesn't help us address any of our weaknesses.
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eesti Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > For whatever it's worth Ireland just said he likes > Odrick in the position(s) he is in...DE in base > and DT in passing situations. Ireland can't tip his hand. The truth will be in their actions.
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eesti Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Wallace definitely had a down year in a new > offense and with an entire offense that struggled. > The entire team had a bad year. > I would just like to say that Dwayne Bowe can use that same excuse, to much greater effect. > I agree Wallace may be highly unlikely but between > he and Jennings
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