dolphaholic Wrote:
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> Hey Chyren, go back and read some of your comments
> about Matt Moore when we signed him (and how
> "stupid" we were for not giving up a 2nd rnd pick
> to Denver and 9 Mil for the great Kyle
> Orton)

And what about Matt Moore's performances versus that of Kyle Orton lead you to crow that one was SUBSTANTIALLY better than the other.



.......care to tell me again why I should
> take your scouting report on Tannehill over guys
> like Cosell, Mayock, Brandt etc.?


Cause they're trying to put food on their table in making a self-fulfilling prediction which is in reality a mere guess at what the Dolphins are going to do anyway and then trying to make it seem like the Dolphins will do it because it is a good thing to do.

Six years from now IF Tannehill is a bust, those guys will be talking about how stupid the Dolphins were to do it but they were desperate for a QB and blah, blah, blah......


.........yup,
> looks like I just crawled in the mud!

Come on in, the mud is fine.

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> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! Best post ever!


I think I post that about 6x per year!

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> > > OMG I AM THRU WITH THIS TEAM!!
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> >
> > &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
> > HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! Best post ever!
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>
> I think I post that about 6x per year!

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> > HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! Best post ever!
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> I think I post that about 6x per year!

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Lol. That's part of what's so funny!

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"When you suck long enough, you get a Hickey"

Crowder52 Wrote:
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>
> Once again I 100 percent agree PF2, this is geting
> scary,
> One more thing, I am not convinced they wanted to
> pay Orton anymore then they just paid Moore...
> Ultimately I think that is the problem as well.
> They cant not put themselves in a situation where
> they pay a back up 6 million a year if Henne plays
> well..


I think this was the last time that the artist formerly known as PF2 and I agreed on a position.... See buddy we see eye to eye at least once a year...lol

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>
> You keep saying this and it makes absolutely zero
> sense. If they're just out to pump up a nobody to
> "put food on their tables" as you put it, why
> aren't they pumping up Weedon or Cousins?

Well, let me explain it to you my friend. I recently said it in another post.

You know who the most HATED draft guru there is?

It's Mel Kiper. That because he pulls no punches and actually criticizes kids.

Consider that "criticizes kids" and how hated that makes him.

In this world, you go further by not criticizing people. You praise what you see good and you throw a sentence like "he could be better at" what you see bad.

Why not Weeden or Kirk Cousins? Weeden for his age and Cousins is down further on everybody's list.

I'm not going to sit here and say Cousins is better than Tannehill.

Even on my own list I rated Tannehill better than Cousins.

But I rate Weeden higher than Tannehill and even I'm not willing to take Weeden at number 8.

Let alone Cousins or Tannehill.

And
> wouldn't they make more of a name for themselves
> by going against the grain and predicting his
> demise? I don't understand your logic on this at
> all.

I'll tell you how. Unless you're big enough like Mel Kiper to withstand the heat from the kids, their school, and everyone else, you don't do that.

In the end, no matter how small your reward when you praise a thousand kids and one of them turns out to be excellent, that is preferable to be damned by many and almost banned by college coaches and everyone will remember it if you say a kid will be a failure, particularly if it turns out he is good.

The safe thing for continuing to put food on the table and pay the mortgage or rent is to point out the good aspects of each kid.

The most daring things these guys, except Mel Kiper, do is to say one guy is better than the other. And then they limited it to a very specific why.

Its post like this which is truley upsetting.

Aqua really? You needed to act 12 and bring up a opinion on somone just to rub it in their face because it didnt turn out how they expected?

Is there one fckn reason besides acting like your in middle school to point somthing out or by calling somone out on a previous opinion about a certain player?


Just saying, because as I understand that all of the poster's on this particular site are grown ass men right? You know all Dolphin fan's?

Don't blame Aqua, I restarted this post, if guys are gonna spew their opinion as gospel......expect to be called out about it later

I dont think it is bad to bring up old post, we are all wrong at times, so if you cant take it on the chin every now and then for fun and retrospect, then I am not sure we are all men..
Call me out whenever you want, I enjoy and respect the positions of the regulars around here, without the diversity on insight and opinions this place would suck....

Ok well Thank you Dolphaholic for bringing us back to middle school for one subject.

I agree Crowder I like the occasional hoo haa like the next, but wow I just found the content very irratating.

I'm not trying to be a sourpuss, but I don't know to each there own.

I just want everyone on here to get along more so than fight over opinions.

come on mia1, I mean, godalmightydoplhins rule, don't be like that...

GodAlmightyDolphinsRule Wrote:
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> I agree Crowder I like the occasional hoo haa like
> the next, but wow I just found the content very
> irratating.
>
> I'm not trying to be a sourpuss, but I don't know
> to each there own.
>
> I just want everyone on here to get along more so
> than fight over opinions.


I hear ya, but most of us while we get heated in some topics, still have great respect for the people we might be disagreeing with. If it goes to far or becomes fruitless to keep beating a dead horse, you just dont respond anymore....
And the member Dolphaholic was referring to in the post Chyren, absolutely loves to debate any of his opinions to the end of time, so he doesnt mind... Chyren, who is my buddy, is the debater who will leave no stone unturned.. His endurance on subjects is nothing more then impressive...lol

I treat this board like i'm sitting around having a cold one with my buddies.....and when I sit around having a cold one with my buddies......we bust balls.

Well ok then if everyone is down with the beating's then alrighty>

I just don't want to see a bunch of Jet's fans... God you even venture into the enemy territory?


Though's bastered's captured Tebow!!!


Rex Ryan is a dead man lol.

I think the scarecrow is going to get banished again LOL.

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> DiabolicalDolfan13 Wrote:
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> > Stfu!
>
>
> RESPONSE: If your attitude as a new poster is that
> we should never criticize the Management,
> ownership or coaching staff, I have to wonder if
> you have ever been a part of ANY team chatboard
> before in ANY sport probably except pee wee and
> midget where you SHOULD be positive to support the
> kiddies.
>
> And you're going to be snapping like a dog behind
> a fence who growls at every passer-by (the dog
> next door to me barks himself hoarse every two
> days or so) because we have 1) a lot of
> intelligent posters on this board and 2) a brain
> dead coaching staff and management.

Very true chren about the management been deadheads.

GADR,

WTF did I say?

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"When you suck long enough, you get a Hickey"

Yeah but I had watched Kyle Orton for almost every game of his career at Purdue but did not see that much of Matt Moore at UCLA and in the end, both me and the experts upon which some of you rely, can only go on what we see.

Now as far as our staff and Sherman, in particular, that would be a good point BUT FOR the fact that if things got so bad that the owner had to call a fan to explain his moves, are you not JUST A LITTLE CONCERN that the move might be generated by PUBLIC PRESSURE of fans JUST LIKE YOURSELF rather than by pure football analysis motives EVEN if just a little bit. And if even "a little bit" that might very well cause a no to become a yes.

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> Now as far as our staff and Sherman, in
> particular, that would be a good point BUT FOR the
> fact that if things got so bad that the owner had
> to call a fan to explain his moves, are you not
> JUST A LITTLE CONCERN that the move might be
> generated by PUBLIC PRESSURE of fans JUST LIKE
> YOURSELF rather than by pure football analysis
> motives EVEN if just a little bit. And if even "a
> little bit" that might very well cause a no to
> become a yes.


They have no gaurentee of landing Tannehill (if that's even their plan), if this was all a PR move to appease the fans, wouldn't they of just signed M. Flynn. C'mon Chyren, for once just say "eh, you may be right" and move on......it doesn't hurt that bad.

Missing the point. The point is that I was relying on myself to make the Orton call. I still think that Orton is better than Moore. I still have faith in Kyle.

I have no such faith in Ryan Tannehill. I have the same faith that had him be put at wide receiver by Sherman in preference to him starting as QB over Jerrold Johnson, AND THAT'S ON A COLLEGE TEAM.

Nonetheless, now your logical stance is necessarily that if I was about one QB, Orton, in saying that he was okay, then I must be wrong about another QB, Tannehill, in saying that he is not worth a 1st round top ten pick when Weeden can be gotten after we go elsewhere with the number 8 and trade up to the bottom of the first round to get him. I don't think that follows.

It's like saying if you were wrong in picking the Denver Broncos to lose to the Patriots in the AFC Championship, you are probably wrong in picking the New York Giants over the Patriots in the SuperBowl.

Thus even if you are right, the fact that one misjudges the worth of one QB does not mean he will NECESSARILY misjudge the worth of every QB.

Straight up, I'd take Weeden over Tannehill but not spend a number 8 on either.

No way would I spend a number 8 on Tannehill.

C'mon Chyren, you're no more a scout then my 4 yr old is, how much of Tannehill have you even seen? 2-1/2 min clips on youtube?
Like I said, i'll take all of the "experts word" as well as Philbin/Shermans judgement over yours anyday (no offense good buddy)

I want guys that win, that was and still is my biggest problem with Henne, he lost alot of football games that mattered in college. If Tannehill had some incredible record as a starter, or overcame alot and became a champion like Cam Newton, I would be much more incline to draft him.. But from my cheap seats he is inexperienced, didnt win alot of big games, and got his coach fired after his first full season as a starter... Am I missing something or is this an early April Fools joke?



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Crowder52 Wrote:
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> I want guys that win, that was and still is my
> biggest problem with Henne, he lost alot of
> football games that mattered in college. If
> Tannehill had some incredible record as a starter,
> or overcame alot and became a champion like Cam
> Newton, I would be much more incline to draft
> him.. But from my cheap seats he is inexperienced,
> didnt win alot of big games, and got his coach
> fired after his first full season as a starter...
> Am I missing something or is this an early April
> Fools joke?

What about Tannehill's record his junior year? 6-1. Including wins over Texas, Nebraska, Oklahoma, and the RG3-led Baylor Bears.

How many points did the Aggies' defense allow in their losses this past season? 30, 42, 38, 41, 53, and 27. And what difference in his senior stats would have been there if not for 64 dropped passes by his receivers?