dolphaholic Wrote:
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> Mia1 Wrote:
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> > Yes, now I suggest we do offense's as well its
> > fun!!!! Because if you have a bad offense lol
> it
> > will hender you, and a good offense gives you
> the
> > edge.
>
>
> Pretty sure I don't understand any of this


You are NOT alone. I have no idea what he is talking about.

Mia1 Wrote:
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> Yes, now I suggest we do offense's as well its
> fun!!!! Because if you have a bad offense lol it
> will hender you, and a good offense gives you the
> edge.


WTF?

1 point for every ten yards 6 points for touchdowns



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/23/2010 12:23PM by Fin fan24.

pass td = 4 pts
int = -1 pt
pass yds = 1 pt every 20
rush/rec yds = 1 pt every 10
no pts per rec
rush, rec, DST td = 6ts
start 1 qb, 2 rb, 3 wrs (or 2 wr + 1 TE, up to the player), K, DST

don't like giving 6pts for passing TDs, it WAY overvalues QBs that way

I like the 4pt per passing TD. I'm in a couple leagues where passing TD's are 6pts and it does make the QB position valued way way more.

INT's I like -2 pts, makes drafting the QB then a little more strategic. Can't just take a guy who is a turnover machine and have no substantial penalty. Gives more value for a guy who protects the football more.

Points Per Reception I can go either way, no strong feeling one way or another.

Here fellas this is a awsome scoring system check it out!\


Rules for QB

Number of Passing TDs 1-999 5 points each
Pass Interceptions Thrown 0-10 -2 points each
Passing 2 Pointers 0-10 2 points each
Length of Rushing TD 0-40 6 points each
Length of Rushing TD 41-100 8 points each
Rushing 2 Pointers 0-10 2 points each
Length of Receiving TD 0-40 6 each
Length of Receiving TD 41-100 8 each
Receiving 2 Pointers 0-10 2 points each
Total Yards from Scrimmage -50-149 0
Total Yards from Scrimmage 150-199 3
Total Yards from Scrimmage 200-249 4
Total Yards from Scrimmage 250-299 5
Total Yards from Scrimmage 300-349 7
Total Yards from Scrimmage 350-399 8
Total Yards from Scrimmage 400-449 12
Total Yards from Scrimmage 450-499 13
Total Yards from Scrimmage 500-999 15
Fumbles Lost (to Opponent) 0-10 -2 points each

Rules for RB

Number of Passing TDs 0-10 4 points each
Length of Passing TD 0-40 6
Length of Passing TD 41-100 8
Passing 2 Pointers 0-10 2 points each
Length of Rushing TD 1-40 6
Length of Rushing TD 41-100 8
Rushing 2 Pointers 0-10 2 points each
Length of Receiving TD 0-40 6
Length of Receiving TD 41-100 8
Receptions 3-99 0 points for 3, and then 1 point for every 1 thereafter
Receiving 2 Pointers 0-10 2 points each
Total Yards -50-59 0
Total Yards 60-74 2
Total Yards 75-99 4
Total Yards 100-124 6
Total Yards 125-149 7
Total Yards 150-174 8
Total Yards 175-199 9
Total Yards 200-249 11
Total Yards 250-300 12
Total Yards 301-1000 15
Length of Punt Return TD 0-40 6
Length of Punt Return TD 41-120 8
Length of Kickoff Return TD 0-40 6
Length of Kickoff Return TD 0--0
Length of Kickoff Return TD 41-120 8
Fumbles Lost (to Opponent) 0-10 -2 points each

Rules for WR

Length of Passing TD 0-40 6
Length of Passing TD 41-100 8
Pass Interceptions Thrown 0-10 -2 points each
Passing 2 Pointers 0-10 2 points each
Length of Rushing TD 0-40 6
Length of Rushing TD 41-100 8
Rushing 2 Pointers 0-10 2 points each
Length of Receiving TD 0-40 6
Length of Receiving TD 41-100 8
Receptions 5-99 0 points for 5, and then 1 point for every 1 thereafter
Receiving 2 Pointers 0-10 2 points each
Total Yards -50-59 0
Total Yards 60-74 2
Total Yards 75-99 4
Total Yards 100-124 6
Total Yards 125-149 7
Total Yards 150-174 8
Total Yards 175-199 9
Total Yards 200-249 11
Total Yards 250-300 12
Total Yards 301-1000 15
Length of Punt Return TD 0-40 6
Length of Punt Return TD 41-120 8
Length of Kickoff Return TD 0-40 6
Length of Kickoff Return TD 41-120 8
Fumbles Lost (to Opponent) 0-10 -2 points each

Rules for TE

Length of Passing TD 0-40 6
Length of Passing TD 41-100 8
Pass Interceptions Thrown 0-10 -2 points each
Passing 2 Pointers 0-10 2 points each
Length of Rushing TD 0-40 6
Length of Rushing TD 41-100 8
Rushing 2 Pointers 0-10 2 points each
Length of Receiving TD 0-40 6
Length of Receiving TD 41-100 8
Receptions 0-99 1 point each
Receiving 2 Pointers 0-10 2 points each
Total Yards -50-59 0
Total Yards 60-74 2
Total Yards 75-99 4
Total Yards 100-124 6
Total Yards 125-149 7
Total Yards 150-174 8
Total Yards 175-199 9
Total Yards 200-249 11
Total Yards 250-300 12
Total Yards 301-1000 15
Fumbles Lost (to Opponent) 0-10 -2 points each

Rules for PK

Length of Field Goal Made 0-19 2
Length of Field Goal Made 20-39 3
Length of Field Goal Made 40-49 4
Length of Field Goal Made 50-99 5
Length of Missed Field Goal 0-19 -4
Length of Missed Field Goal 20-39 -3
Length of Missed Field Goal 40-49 -1
Length of Missed Field Goal 50-99 0
Extra Points 0-15 1 point each
Extra Points Missed 0-10 -4 points each

Rules for Def

Fumble Recoveries (from Opponent) 0-10 2 points each
Interceptions Caught 0-10 2 points each
Sacked a QB 0-25 1 point each
Safeties 0-10 2 points each
Total Points Allowed 0-0 10
Total Points Allowed 1-9 5
Total Points Allowed 10-19 2
Total Points Allowed 20-29 0
Total Points Allowed 30-39 -3
Total Points Allowed 40-49 -6
Total Points Allowed 50-100 -12
Total Net Yards Allowed 0-199 5
Total Net Yards Allowed 200-250 2
Total Net Yards Allowed 251-300 0
Total Net Yards Allowed 301-350 -2
Total Net Yards Allowed 351-400 -4
Total Net Yards Allowed 401-1000 -6
Length of Defensive/Special Teams TDs 0-40 6
Length of Defensive/Special Teams TDs 41-110 8

Rules for Off

Passing Yards plus Rushing Yards 0-200 -5
Passing Yards plus Rushing Yards 201-249 0
Passing Yards plus Rushing Yards 250-299 2
Passing Yards plus Rushing Yards 300-349 4
Passing Yards plus Rushing Yards 350-399 6
Passing Yards plus Rushing Yards 400-449 8
Passing Yards plus Rushing Yards 450-1000 10
QB Sacked 0-0 5
QB Sacked 1-1 3
QB Sacked 2-2 1
QB Sacked 3-3 0
QB Sacked 4-4 -1
QB Sacked 5-5 -2
QB Sacked 6-8 -4
QB Sacked 9-20 -6
First Downs 16-99 0 points for 16, and then 1 point for every 1 thereafter


This is a awsome setup. What you fellas think?

berkeley223 Wrote:
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> pass td = 4 pts
> int = -1 pt
> pass yds = 1 pt every 20
> rush/rec yds = 1 pt every 10
> no pts per rec
> rush, rec, DST td = 6ts
> start 1 qb, 2 rb, 3 wrs (or 2 wr + 1 TE, up to the
> player), K, DST
>
> don't like giving 6pts for passing TDs, it WAY
> overvalues QBs that way

This

I'LL PLAY!

dolphaholic Wrote:
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> berkeley223 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > pass td = 4 pts
> > int = -1 pt
> > pass yds = 1 pt every 20
> > rush/rec yds = 1 pt every 10
> > no pts per rec
> > rush, rec, DST td = 6ts
> > start 1 qb, 2 rb, 3 wrs (or 2 wr + 1 TE, up to
> the
> > player), K, DST
> >
> > don't like giving 6pts for passing TDs, it WAY
> > overvalues QBs that way
>
> This


I'm inclined to this as well. Except having -2 for INT's. But I like this foundation very much

1 point for every 20 yards is a bit easy. Most qb's will average 200 plus yards a game.

I mean Im down for whatever, just why not make it total yards from scrimmage, versus every 20 yards passing?

Oh well you take any advice from me Mikeo so ill stop with my suggestion's.

Doesnt really matter I guess the same basic scoring rules apply to most leagues anyways so it will still be fun.

Mia1 Wrote:
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>
> Oh well you take any advice from me Mikeo so ill
> stop with my suggestion's.
>



I don't know why your upset or not giving anymore suggestions. But whatever. Do what you want

Well not realy upset, just bothered because I want everyone to have a good time, and came up with some solid suggestions, and want everyone to come together to enjoy this up comming season.

Just seem's like your mind is set up with the scoring rules, and thats fine, it will be fun regardless, but just making sure that everyone knows all the diff possibilities that we can incorporate.

I don't think his mind is made up. He is asking for suggestions.

I think it should be 4pts for a passing TD, but if you're going to do that then you can't penalize -2 for an interception. thats too much. I think the best way is to set up votes on the site.

We can set one up for the point values for the most critical stuff.

also, I think we should do fractional scoring. I hate ties. playing with fractional scoring will get rid of just about any chance for a tie. WIN or GO HOME!

No just incorporate a offense which has the scoring stated above. Thats all I really care about is playing both defense, and offense.

Alot of leagues don't do offense, but I like the offense idea, because if you don't have a solid offense, it can realy hurt you lol.

Mia1 Wrote:
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> Well not realy upset, just bothered because I want
> everyone to have a good time, and came up with
> some solid suggestions, and want everyone to come
> together to enjoy this up comming season.
>
> Just seem's like your mind is set up with the
> scoring rules, and thats fine, it will be fun
> regardless, but just making sure that everyone
> knows all the diff possibilities that we can
> incorporate.

My mind isn't made up on anything. Only Berk and Dolphanholic have suggested anything and I'm brainstorming with them. It's a brainstorming session. Just floating out ideas and thoughts. If nobody else is gonna speak up NOW before I set everything then I got nothing to go on.

kelreign Wrote:
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> I don't think his mind is made up. He is asking
> for suggestions.
>


THANK YOU!!!!!!!

mia1 your proposed rules are just way to convoluted. I like to watch games and check stats and have an understanding what how what I am watching affects my fantasy players. If I need to pay attention to how many yards lost the sack was or whether my RB just gained 15 or 25 yards on a carry it's just not worth it, I might as well just check the scores the next day to see if I won or not. I like standard scoring where if you are watching a game and have a player going, and they make a play, you know exactly what just happened as it relates to your team.

as for -2 on INTs, I agree with the poster above that if you are only getting 4pts for a TD, I think -2 is too big a penalty. but if the consensus -2, I'm OK with it.

Mikeo when I say offense, I mean the entire offensive unit, as in how many first downs, points, sacks allowed.



Rules for Offense

Passing Yards plus Rushing Yards combined 0-200 -5 points
Passing Yards plus Rushing Yards combined 201-249 0 points
Passing Yards plus Rushing Yards combined 250-299 2 points
Passing Yards plus Rushing Yards combined 300-349 4 points
Passing Yards plus Rushing Yards combined 350-399 6 points
Passing Yards plus Rushing Yards combined 400-449 8 points
Passing Yards plus Rushing Yards combined 450-1000 10 points
QB Sacked 0-0 5 points
QB Sacked 1-1 3 points
QB Sacked 2-2 1 points
QB Sacked 3-3 0 points
QB Sacked 4-4 -1 points
QB Sacked 5-5 -2 points
QB Sacked 6-8 -4 points
QB Sacked 9-20 -6 points
First Downs 16-99 0 points for 16, and then 1 point for every 1 thereafter

The nuts and bolts of the scoring is standard like we have discussed. I have it set to where we start 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 WR/TE flex, and 1 TE. Some little sprinkles on top of the sundae I added are these....let me know what ya think.


If a QB throws for over 400 yards there is a 2pt bonus

If a QB throws a TD pass for over 50+ yards there is a 1pt bonus

Any WR that catches a 50+ yard TD there is a 1pt bonus

Any WR that catches for over 200+ yards there is a 2pt bonus

Any X-tra point missed is -5

RB with a 50+ yard TD run there is a 1 pt bonus

RB that goes over 200+ yards there is a 2 pt bonus

MikeO, I don't like the missed extra point -5 penalty. That's huge and whether someone misses an extra point is just pure luck. I'd hate to lose a game that way. The rest of it I don't feel as strongly about and am OK with if that's the majority.

How about minus 3?

Do special teams stats count? Had Josh Cribbs, as a last minute pickup due to injuries, but my league did not count yardage on kickoff returns and/or td returns....basically making him useless to me.

i vote no negative points for missed PAT (not getting the point is bad enough) and no special teams pts except for TDs

berkeley223 Wrote:
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> i vote no negative points for missed PAT (not
> getting the point is bad enough) and no special
> teams pts except for TDs


I agree with both of these points above and what Berk said about watching and being able to follow along without needing a calculator

i will change the xtra point thing this week

Hey Mike, something i've gone to in my other leagues to avoid any ties (think someone already suggested it on here) is giving a 1/10 a point per reception, 10 recpts only adds up to a point so it doesn't add up to much, but it basically eliminates ties. Just a suggestion.

Don't you have to enable non-integer scoring to do the .1 for completion? In that case if you have somebody that has 54 yards they'll get 5.4 points...so any points for completion basically becomes useless.

"enable non-integer scoring to do the .1 for completion?"

I have no idea what that is. On CBS it's easy to do .10 per reception and has nothing to do with yards. 6 receptions would get you .6 pts for the reception portion, 10 recpts get you 1 pt. etc. So instead of a final of 75 to 75 it might be 75.3 to 75.8, just a good way to avoid ties without lumping too many points on WR's (to me a WR with a stat line of 4 recpts for 10 yrds shouldn't get 4 pts out of that if it was a point per recpt.)

if we do partial points---ie, 59 yards rushing is 5.9 pts, not 5, then there should be no issue with ties. Pretty sure the espn site is set up for that.