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8 days ago
tsstamper
"Next best alternative" should always be the primary factor in decisions like these. I don't think the savings of having Skylar or White be QB could be made up for by utilizing it on other positions to an extent that it would give us an equal or better chance of winning a SB.
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22 days ago
tsstamper
Such a complex thing/game of chicken. I've heard at least one national commentator (can't remember who) publicly advise Tua not to set foot on the field until a contract is done. So....that's just great. As we all are, I'm a fan of the team and want what puts us in the best position to win Super Bowls. Based upon the stories/Youtube/etc. that were done about Tua and the way he takes care of
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4 weeks ago
tsstamper
The owners do see the problem...but it's been created, in large part, because today's rules (and the owners basically make the league's rules, as I understand it) make the QB position so much more valuable than any other. I.e. they sort of dug their own grave there. My preference would be rules that enable differently-constructed teams to legitimately compete for SBs. I hate that Mahomes (ba
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4 weeks ago
tsstamper
I do believe there are some players whose pride drives them to be the highest paid. But, I believe that agents might even be a greater driver...not wanting to be the agent who didn't get the new record amount for their client as they seek add'l clients. I, of course, don't know Tua personally. But, I get the feeling the agent is a big part of that equation in his case. If it were posed to
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4 weeks ago
tsstamper
I know Grier's had a pretty consistent message of "Tua's our guy long-term and we want to get something done". If Grier's actual preference is to have him play on the 5th year option it would appear to be different that what he's communicated, though he's certainly left it open enough to not be specifically committed to anything. They could have him play the 5th year option...and
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5 weeks ago
tsstamper
Cap - I'd be curious to understand your perspective about why Grier may have held off, given their publicly stated intent to sign him. I just don't see the updside in waiting.
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5 weeks ago
tsstamper
A big part of my message above was to say "Grier - what's to gain from waiting? Get it done if that's what you're gonna do before the market moves up again". With the Jags paying Lawrence Burrow money, it's hard to see Tua taking less than that. My simple mind just doesn't get what - if anything - is (was) to gain by waiting.
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6 weeks ago
tsstamper
For all the great plays, it's tough to ignore that he dropped a couple of easy TDs in critical games. Philly comes to mind specifically, but there was at least another. And letting KC strip him and run it back for a TD in a game we lost by 7. For as good as he's been, those kinds of things don't merit a pay bump.
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6 weeks ago
tsstamper
I'd hate for the decision to backfire, but I wouldn't pay him more now. But, I think KC losing him and not missing a beat vs. us is apples & oranges since we don't have Mahomes.
Forum: Miami Dolphins Civilized Discussion
6 weeks ago
tsstamper
Ultimately, I've probably felt like what Tua said "the market is what the market is". And, if you combine that with Grier saying pretty clearly they want to extend Tua, it's probably going to happen and probably going to be in that Goff range. When that happens, we'll sort of be playing with the same basic hand as the 5 other teams with QBs in the $50M/per stratosphere...and for a t
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6 weeks ago
tsstamper
I lived in KC for a number of years and somewhat admired how they achieved and handled their success (as opposed to Cheatriots) until last year. I'm with you - they don't need to be the champs this year. Tying to the Tua contract - that's the most maddening thing. Over the past 10 years, the teams that had Brady, Manning and Mahomes shared a 90% chance of being in the Super Bowl with the L
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6 weeks ago
tsstamper
I had definitely focused on the offensive side of the ball, recognizing of course that defense & ST have their part in every win & loss. Picking on just one game - the final one against Buffalo - that had a little bit of everything. We actually did pick of Allen 2x...one in the red zone and one in the end zone on a long pass attempt. But, to your point, we allowed a return for TD and
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7 weeks ago
tsstamper
We all know that we've developed into a team that generally takes care of business with teams we ought to beat and struggles against the league's better teams. While each loss has its own combination of specific reasons, and many are seemingly inextricably linked together, my (hopefully not lying) eyes have seen that a common theme is our offense's inability to score points in crunch time at t
Forum: Miami Dolphins Civilized Discussion
7 weeks ago
tsstamper
I was actually thinking it's encouraging to get Waddle's done in terms of Tua's getting done. It's like one less variable out there. And, with it being an extension, it's really apparently like 5 yrs for $108M with the vast majority coming in future years as the cap grows. I'm thankful it's done. For Tua, I think it'll get done in somewhat short order (say the next 1.5 months?). I don't th
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2 months ago
tsstamper
Relative to what appeared to be financially possible this offseason, I think they've done more/better than I thought they would or could. I agree with your observation that Fuller & Brewer are the key FAs that really need to work out well. And, I think there's reason to believe that several of the others have the potential to really move the needle in different ways. Smith and Odell addi
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2 months ago
tsstamper
thx so much - didn't notice that it hadn't come through
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2 months ago
tsstamper
The 3rd rounder from the Brady/Payton tampering thing. Sheesh, glad we're done paying that stupid bill.
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2 months ago
tsstamper
Yeah, I think PIT took the OL they wanted right before. Chop Robinson sounds like there's a lot to work with and potential to unlock.
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2 months ago
tsstamper
I think they're in a decent position to pursue a number of different options. If trading down, I hope they wait to see how the board's breaking because it seems possible that runs on positions like QB & OT could push some talent down to 21 that might otherwise go a bit higher. Thinking like Brock Bowers or the DT from Texas. Not that I think either would be there...but you never know. I s
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3 months ago
tsstamper
Passed on him 2x...sheesh! I remember visiting my parents the weekend of Brees' draft year. They hooked up cable especially for my visit so I could watch it. Everyone knew we were picking Brees...and then Jamar Fletcher. Then, as you said, 4 yrs later he wants to be a Phin and we send him on his way. You're absolutely right that he's the biggest what-if since the Czonka, Kiick and Warfield d
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3 months ago
tsstamper
I agree on the OL side that more/better investment could have been made combining draft + FA. He's actually done somewhat better recently than when he first fully took over. At the start of the rebuild, he should have pursued a premium OL FA and a "better than average" OL FA. And then drafted somewhat similar to what he has (would have been nice to do better than Eich, but Hunt was a
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4 months ago
tsstamper
Interesting thought, and I like a lot of the elements you point out. I think the moneyball approach is probably more applicable to baseball because of the relative independence of hitter v. pitcher as opposed to how in football all 11 have to be doing their job every play for success. Baseball doesn't have as much of the "Tyreek outran the coverage...Tua fired the perfect pass...but one of
Forum: Miami Dolphins Civilized Discussion
4 months ago
tsstamper
10 of last 11 super bowls all featured either Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, or Patrick Mahomes, with them (Brady/Manning/Mahomes) winning 8 of 11. (Interestingly, Wilson was one of the 3 SB winners who weren't one of these 3 all-time greats). The way the game's set up now - and I don't particularly like that this is true - you essentially need the one of the top 2-3 greatest QBs of the generatio
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5 months ago
tsstamper
TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Tsstamper you POS! > I hear ya! I do have faith that they'll one (or more) before I die...but odds are I'm more than 1/2 way there, so they better get on it! I became a fan in January 1983 watching the SB with my dad and brother in south central Kansas. We had moved there from the Denver area
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5 months ago
tsstamper
I have a tinge of personal guilt when thinking of the 73 team. I was born in 1974...the same year the Phins won their last Super Bowl at the end of the '73 season. Maybe it's my fault we haven't won in 50 years :-). Apologies to the community if it is :-)
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5 months ago
tsstamper
Hosting my brother's and my cousin's families. Like Treasure, I'll likely be cooking and making sure the experience is a good one for all. The game will likely be largely a background bit to a good family gathering.
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5 months ago
tsstamper
In a way, he was their capologist...or at least a cheat code. He took well under market value for years so they could have a financial competitive advantage in assembling & maintaining the rest of their roster.
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5 months ago
tsstamper
Just to get under the cap, my understanding is we'll need to get rid of about $50M. The most obvious cuts to my simple mind are the following to clear up $45M. - Ogbah $13.7M - Howard (post June 1 designation) $18.5M - Baker 9.8M - Crossen $3M The GM boldly proclaimed they want a long-term deal w/Tua, and usually he's much more quiet if he's thinking of them being gone. So, whether
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5 months ago
tsstamper
Seeing SF there is both encouraging & discouraging. Offensively, we share a ton with them in terms of approach. But, on both sides of the ball, there's still a sizable gap of talent overall. Excluding Tua vs. Purdy, cuz I think they're actually pretty similar (tho Purdy costs a whole lot less). - Williams > Armstead - CMC > our RBs - Kittle > Smythe - Bosa & Chase
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