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This is a moderated phorum for the CIVILIZED discussion of the Miami Dolphins. In this phorum, there are rules and moderators to make sure you abide by the rules. The moderators for this phorum are JC and Colonel.
Literally anyone could have done a better job on the last play than Boyle. He freakin' threw the ball 5 yards out of bounds...on 4th down. What an idiot.
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It's a win for us fans. McD finally did what we've all been calling for the whole season:
- ran the ball, stayed committed
- threw to Jonnu Smith
- used a QB who's at least somewhat competent...and played a bit to his strengths with running. He didn't get a ton of rush yards, but moved a bit to throw...and the threat of running seemed to open up a couple things in the pass game
But, al
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I felt this way during the preseason, but just presumed business was being handled to prepare the team for the season. But, it seemed like the whole preseason was all about
- new contracts/more money for star players
- extension for McD
- status of OBJ
- whether the OL would be able to perform well enough with the talent on hand
By far the most noteworthy thing from the preseason game
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This is apparently a much bigger mess, but to send a message right now, I would cut TE Julian Hill. Good physical talent, but costs us with undisciplined play. Sunday was abysmal, but I've observed he's generally been on the wrong end of "takes no talent" stuff throughout his time with us.
And, there's really not much excuse I can think of to have him and Conner on the field togeth
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Complete and utter mismanagement of the entire approach to the game - both going into it and during. With Skylar playing like a complete idiot from the 1st whistle, you gotta check down to Boyle WAY before when they did. There's no way the coaches didn't know how $hitty he was going in. The dude wouldn't even throw it into the end zone on the last play of the half. It was literally the only o
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Having watched the footage a couple times, I think you're right - a sense of 'above the law' entitlement. Not in the sense that he's above having a ticket written, but in the sense of not having to conduct himself properly during a traffic stop.
Sadly, in my 35 years of driving, I've been pulled over several times and received a handful of tickets. Never once has it even occurred to me not t
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I can only say this in hindsight, but it's good to be able to win games when you're facing a pretty good team and making more mistakes than they are. Definitely wasn't my perspective while watching the 1st 3 quarters.
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In terms of celebrating touchdowns, I loves me some Barry Sanders. Flipped the ball to the ref and headed to the sideline. However, even in the late 80s & 90s he was an anomaly in that regard.
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Yeah, you can find the 'show me the money' bit on Youtube.
Not trying to overreact...was just tough to see so many 'Tua calls Flores a terrible person' articles on the news feed and it brought to mind the show me the money stuff a few weeks ago. These things could be viewed as a guy just being refreshingly authentic and transparent, but for someone who has struggled with fan perception I thin
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I was glad to see Cam Smith and Eric Ezukama do some good things in the game. When so much of the $ goes to proven top-end players & positions, we need draft picks to provide signifant value on their rookie contracts. That's every team that has a talented roster, of course...so not a Phins-specific problem.
Was also cool to see Jonnu Smith be effective in different ways. And Achane catc
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Given the market, this seems like a deal that represents some compromise from both sides. Phins don't set a record for APY...Tua gets 4 yrs extension instead of 5, so closer to his next contract.
Certainly it should change the financial trajectory of his family for generations to come. May it also be a critical part of changing our 50-yr SB win drought.
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"Next best alternative" should always be the primary factor in decisions like these. I don't think the savings of having Skylar or White be QB could be made up for by utilizing it on other positions to an extent that it would give us an equal or better chance of winning a SB.
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Such a complex thing/game of chicken. I've heard at least one national commentator (can't remember who) publicly advise Tua not to set foot on the field until a contract is done. So....that's just great.
As we all are, I'm a fan of the team and want what puts us in the best position to win Super Bowls. Based upon the stories/Youtube/etc. that were done about Tua and the way he takes care of
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The owners do see the problem...but it's been created, in large part, because today's rules (and the owners basically make the league's rules, as I understand it) make the QB position so much more valuable than any other. I.e. they sort of dug their own grave there.
My preference would be rules that enable differently-constructed teams to legitimately compete for SBs. I hate that Mahomes (ba
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I do believe there are some players whose pride drives them to be the highest paid. But, I believe that agents might even be a greater driver...not wanting to be the agent who didn't get the new record amount for their client as they seek add'l clients.
I, of course, don't know Tua personally. But, I get the feeling the agent is a big part of that equation in his case.
If it were posed to
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I know Grier's had a pretty consistent message of "Tua's our guy long-term and we want to get something done".
If Grier's actual preference is to have him play on the 5th year option it would appear to be different that what he's communicated, though he's certainly left it open enough to not be specifically committed to anything.
They could have him play the 5th year option...and
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Cap - I'd be curious to understand your perspective about why Grier may have held off, given their publicly stated intent to sign him. I just don't see the updside in waiting.
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A big part of my message above was to say "Grier - what's to gain from waiting? Get it done if that's what you're gonna do before the market moves up again".
With the Jags paying Lawrence Burrow money, it's hard to see Tua taking less than that. My simple mind just doesn't get what - if anything - is (was) to gain by waiting.
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For all the great plays, it's tough to ignore that he dropped a couple of easy TDs in critical games. Philly comes to mind specifically, but there was at least another. And letting KC strip him and run it back for a TD in a game we lost by 7.
For as good as he's been, those kinds of things don't merit a pay bump.
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I'd hate for the decision to backfire, but I wouldn't pay him more now.
But, I think KC losing him and not missing a beat vs. us is apples & oranges since we don't have Mahomes.
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Ultimately, I've probably felt like what Tua said "the market is what the market is". And, if you combine that with Grier saying pretty clearly they want to extend Tua, it's probably going to happen and probably going to be in that Goff range.
When that happens, we'll sort of be playing with the same basic hand as the 5 other teams with QBs in the $50M/per stratosphere...and for a t
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I lived in KC for a number of years and somewhat admired how they achieved and handled their success (as opposed to Cheatriots) until last year.
I'm with you - they don't need to be the champs this year.
Tying to the Tua contract - that's the most maddening thing. Over the past 10 years, the teams that had Brady, Manning and Mahomes shared a 90% chance of being in the Super Bowl with the L
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I had definitely focused on the offensive side of the ball, recognizing of course that defense & ST have their part in every win & loss.
Picking on just one game - the final one against Buffalo - that had a little bit of everything. We actually did pick of Allen 2x...one in the red zone and one in the end zone on a long pass attempt. But, to your point, we allowed a return for TD and
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We all know that we've developed into a team that generally takes care of business with teams we ought to beat and struggles against the league's better teams.
While each loss has its own combination of specific reasons, and many are seemingly inextricably linked together, my (hopefully not lying) eyes have seen that a common theme is our offense's inability to score points in crunch time at t
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I was actually thinking it's encouraging to get Waddle's done in terms of Tua's getting done. It's like one less variable out there. And, with it being an extension, it's really apparently like 5 yrs for $108M with the vast majority coming in future years as the cap grows. I'm thankful it's done.
For Tua, I think it'll get done in somewhat short order (say the next 1.5 months?). I don't th
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Relative to what appeared to be financially possible this offseason, I think they've done more/better than I thought they would or could.
I agree with your observation that Fuller & Brewer are the key FAs that really need to work out well. And, I think there's reason to believe that several of the others have the potential to really move the needle in different ways. Smith and Odell addi
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