Got it - yeah, I don't remember which picks we got in trade but you're correct we rec'd pics for them.
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I think Tannehill and Drake were both traded by the Dolphins, so we wouldn't get any compensatory picks for them as we may have had they been let go via free agency.
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The main negative I've heard about him is that he doesn't seem to have the "it" factor. Leadership, elevating the play of others around him, etc. That said, I've never seen him play even a full game, so it's only from what I've read online.
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While it hasn't been with this regime (though Grier has been a part of past ones), we've done fairly well picking OL in the 1st round. Not Cowboys-level success with multiple pro-bowlers seemingly every year...but more "pretty good and definitely not a bust" level overall. When they were all healthy for that "cup of coffee" in 2016, our offense was clicking behind a line fea
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I don't necessarily disagree with the "spacing out contracts" concept, in general. But the ability to carry fwd sort of mitigates that a bit. Like with the OL thread, I'm coming around to the idea of using some cap & roster for some mid-range (would be nice if they seemed to be trending in the right direction) younger FA. So, potentially repurposing the money to still be spent
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In my mind, it's a foregone conclusion that these two will not be Dolphins in 2020. But, i probably said the same thing about Parker last offseason. Their release would create about 17 million in cap space, not that we presently need it, but I believe in good fiscal stewardship irrespective of one's current circumstances. We got a view of what the safety position looks like without presume
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The main difference I see in our approaches is that mine results in a younger starting OL, which carries more risk but perhaps a higher overall ceiling. Yours, I would think, would probably perform better in 2020 but would need some additional draft/young FA capital spent beyond 2020 for development as age requires turnover more quickly. I couldn't find anything on Harris from MN, but agree t
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Back on topic - who would you rather have as a FA pick-up, the top-rated OG or top-rated OT? I've previously been more in favor of OG because: - it seems like a better position to be "glue" for the line - the draft seems stronger @ T than G - G has been such a weak (bleak) spot for us for so long However, in thinking through the potential of our current resources and what's
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For me, I think I'll have more clarity about the draft primarily after free agency's effect on the roster and secondarily just with the passing of time and events related to the draft itself. I'd really like to see us add (at a minimum) one stud OL FA who can serve as an anchor for what I hope is an OL rebuild. I'm also hoping that Howard remains with the team and returns to the field long-te
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Alleged 911 audio from his fiancé has now been made public and it appears from the audio that (a) physical domestic violence has occurred multiple times in their relationship and (b) he has sought to dissuade her from reporting it to authorities because he’s an NFL player. If these things turn out to be true, it is awful for us. Ray Rice was given a 2-game suspension that was widely panned
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Whether he ends up a Phin or not, it's just nice to be a team players want to join vs. last year when they were blocking trades to us.
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Man, so glad this guy isn't with the Phins organization anymore. The article was mainly about RBs for Chiefs and SF, both of whom shared some time with us. Williams said and Gase basically implicitly confirmed that Gase had told Williams he was a big part of the team's future plans...then Williams injured his shoulder...then Gase stopped taking Williams' calls and the relationship broke. I d
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Trying to take all of this an apply it to our roster. OL is a unit that I agree will likely (and should) get a pretty full makeover. Your list has 2 FA and 3 high draft picks. Are you thinking that there's a wholesale swap of all 5 starters with, perhaps, some of last year's crew being backups...or are some of the 5 new guys perhaps depth? Not discounting quality depth, but also recognizing t
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A couple of hopefully relevant notes: - Fitzpatrick only became a starter after 3 years in the league...then spent his next 6 years with a QB rating between 69.7 and 83.3. Around age 32, he started consistently hitting ratings between 85.5 and 100.4 (with one nice exception with the Jets ha-ha in 2016) - even with the craziest lottery ticket in history going home after his loss to TEN, the r
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In the 2nd half of the season, we had a very effective offense while lacking: - any semblance of a running game - adequate pass pro - our leading receiver (yards) from the 1st half of the season Crazy to think "stop Parker & Gesicki and we should stop the Phins' offense", yet in only 1 game (a win) in the last 8 were we held to under 20 points. Chicken salad out of chick
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Completely agree regarding being careful with FAs and how they fit vs. being individual superstars. I think that's one reason why I tend toward elite OL FA. They tend to be able to be elite at their position w/o the drama. And, this year in particular, "fit" on our OL is probably less important since I would guess at least 60% of our starting OL will be different whether by draft, tr
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Merry Christmas, everyone!
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I'd definitely like to see Scherff join our OL. For CB, I'd like to see Byron Jones. Don't see Dallas keeping him with so many other priorities for them to sign. He has good size and has experience at both S and CB in his young career. Love the idea of 2 really good CB. At RB, I like the idea of taking from the Chargers, but would probably actually prefer Ekeler.
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I think Hill - and I don't know a thing about him specifically - is representative of the kind of modestly-paid 2nd guy I had in mind. Shouldn't break the bank to acquire a guy who couldn't secure a starting role, but do I believe there are a number of teams whose 3rd OT is far better than what we have and capable of being a part of a solid, rebuilt line? Yeah, definitely.
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Agreed re: spending wisely. In my mind, I'd want to avoid in FA: - divas/troubled players - old players, unless contract is very modest - injured players - players whose performance is more a reflection of the team around them than them individually In general, I would want to avoid paying top-dollar for OL, but I feel like our situation is so dire there that we really need one blue-c
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Completely agree re: OL. I don't know enough about the college prospects to know which ones might be targets for any of our 1st/2nd round picks, but, along with CB, I would also spend on a really good OL player in FA. I don't think we need to build the entire line out of high draft picks, but feel like ours is so bad that having one position literally plug & play at a high level would serve
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I echo Colonel's "Agree that "Whiskers" could play again next year and mentor Rosen and any other prospect we have eyes on that is on the roster." sentiment. Regarding drafting a top-notch CB, I think I slightly favor getting a young, proven really good FA there if there's the right fit for our D. As I've mentioned before, I think the Pats have used (especially more recent
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Just so I know I'm reading this list correctly, are you saying the following were non-busts, i.e. players that were pretty good for us? - Charles Harris - Dion Jordan - Jamar Fletcher - John Avery - Yatil Green - Billy Milner - John Bosa - Eric Kumerow
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Was looking at the updated draft order on NFL dot com and they list the team's greatest needs. Every on of the top 9 teams drafting has OL listed. With the way our team is outperforming its roster talent...plus others in the mix underperforming their roster talent...and with us playing so many of them in the last 4 games, there's a very real chance we play ourselves into a significantly differe
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I'd have to agree. Considering complete coaching overhaul and player turnover happening at a high rate well into the first part of the season, I'd consider our first 4 games basically an extension of preseason...and our next 4 games like the first 4 games of the season for a talent-poor team. Prior to the season's start, I'd thought of our 1st 4 games that way...but I don't think I'd thought of
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I'd say there are a few thoughts that come from different angles to combine to form my perspective: 1. I think that having the right QB is more important that having the right any other individual player/position. 2. I think that the right players at any position can be found anywhere in the draft, and sometimes outside the draft (trade/FA). And a ton of that has to do with having a cultur
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I think it can be said that for most of the last 20 years, the Phins have managed to get less out of the talent they've had than they should, and Tannehill is no exception. The OL helps...coaching that has him running more helps...Henry being the priority focus for opposing defenses certainly helps. Tannehill had a really good stretch in 2016 when he had basically the same circumstances. I thi
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Per overthecap dot com, our top 51 currently available combined 2019 cap number is just under $66 million. This is topped by Albert Wilson's $8.33 million, and he's not even close to playing at that value. Our dead money is over $62 million. Our IR money is just under $42 million.
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I'll probably take a lot of heat for this, but my guess is we still draft him. Reasons: - the early news on prognosis for recovery from this specific injury seem fairly positive - we have a ton of draft capital to do what we want and his price probably just went down significantly. I don't think teams view him as a top 5 pick any more. - I don't know this for a fact, but as I scan the h
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