BobT Wrote:
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> Bill Arnsbarger- had a
> terrible record as HC of the NY Giants, but he was
> one of the best DC I've ever seen.


Arnsparger was amazing.

eesti Wrote:
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> Sometime it is up to
> 3 years for a QB to be fully comfortable in the
> west coast offense. Sparano does not have that
> long of a leash.

Well, they would have to install it a little faster then.

Phinsfan2 Wrote:
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> And what if hiring McDaniels annoys Nolan so much
> that he leaves when his contract expires after
> next season?


Mangini, now or then, lol.

(R/J)ay Wrote:
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> His one really good year of offensive production in Minnesota came
> with guys like Favre, Harvin, Rice, and Adrian
> Peterson, some of the most explosive talent in the
> NFL.

> The guy's shown absolutely nothing other guy's shown absolutely nothing other than the ability to be Andy Reid's assisant.


Except when, as you’ve indicated, he has talent to work with (seemingly).

Your observation seems true; coaches need talent to be successful. Duly noted. It makes so much sense now that I think about it, that probably even helped Lombardi and stuff right? Like, it probably helped Lombardi that he had that Starr guy. Wow. I get it. I think, although I’m getting confused again….

montequi Wrote:
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> Aqua&Orange Wrote:
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> -----
> > SO, let me get this right....
> >
> >
> >
> > Did Minnesotta run the WC offense?
> >
> > I dont think so.
>
> No, but he wasn't the OC there, he was the HC.
> His boss was in love with Brett Favre and Brett is
> NOT a WC QB. It's not like Childress had much of
> a choice.


Favre used it forever, Chilly's used his combo of it.

eesti Wrote:
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> and if Nolan has a problem with McDaniels...too
> friggin bad. They don't have to work together that
> closely anyway.
>
> He can get his payback by trying to dominate the
> offense in practice which will only make them
> better.
>
> It would be great competition. Look at Ditka and
> Buddy Ryan. They hated each other but built one of
> the most dominant teams of all time.
>
> McD has the offensive track record....Brady,
> Cassel and Orton have all had their best years
> under McD. I don't like the smug bastard but I
> will get over it if he fields a decent offense.
> Besides he can't be a smug as only the OC and not
> top dog in charge.


Spot on I mentioned the exact same thing in another thread!! Good thinking buddy.

montequi Wrote:
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> BTW: if we fail to draft a QB in the 1st round,
> Tyler Thigpen is taylor made for the WCO.
>
> Now, let's see how long it takes before Mia1
> comments on this


Ummm god I love you!! Get me that leg to hump!!

seadevil Wrote:
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> Phinsfan2 Wrote:
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> > Heck, he could theoretically sign a deal to be
> OC
> > for this year at minimum wage and still make
> his
> > $3mill.
>
> The Vikes would deduct whatever it is, presumably.


He's getting the 3 mil regardless, if we paid him 1 mil the Vikes are on the hook for the other 2, the only way he makes more then 3 mil is if our salary was more then that, then the Vikes would be off the hook. So I ask again, if he has nothing to gain by putting in 16 hr days.....then why would he?

What's interesting is that even when he was the OC in Philly, he didn't call plays during the game.

Childress is the best OC candidate the phins have talked w/. In his yrs
as qb coach and OC in Philly the Eagles made 3 straight tips to the NFC championship and 1 Superbowl.

montequi Wrote:
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> Aqua&Orange Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > SO, let me get this right....
> >
> >
> >
> > Did Minnesotta run the WC offense?
> >
> > I dont think so.
>
> No, but he wasn't the OC there, he was the HC.
> His boss was in love with Brett Favre and Brett is
> NOT a WC QB. It's not like Childress had much of
> a choice.


Favre is not a west coast QB? Minnesota didn't run the WC offense?

Huh?

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“I'm here" You're welcome!" - Kenny Powers

Favre is in a class of his own. He is a FAVRE style qb, that made stuff happen out of nothing, and also alot of INT's lol.

Quote:

"Favre is not a west coast QB? Minnesota didn't run the WC offense?

Huh?"


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It was a mixture. AP had 1800+ yards rushing.....it was a mixture of power football/WC offense.

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montequi Wrote:
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> Aqua&Orange Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > SO, let me get this right....
> >
> >
> >
> > Did Minnesotta run the WC offense?
> >
> > I dont think so.
>
> No, but he wasn't the OC there, he was the HC.
> His boss was in love with Brett Favre and Brett is
> NOT a WC QB. It's not like Childress had much of
> a choice.


Favre has played in a West Coast Offense for virtually his entire career. Mike Holmgren learned the offense under Bill Walsh himself in San Francisco. And Childress still runs the west coast offense in Minnesota. The OC is Darrell Bevell, who learned it while he was the QB coach in Green Bay's West Coast Offense.

But Brad Childress was under Barry Alvarez's system in Wisconsin much longer than he was in the WC system.

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Some people just wont accept him, so no point in relaying the info?

I hope he get's the job!!!

So whats the verdict people? Yes to the Chilly, or no to the Chilly?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/14/2011 01:46PM by Mia1.

Aqua&Orange Wrote:
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> But Brad Childress was under Barry Alvarez's
> system in Wisconsin much longer than he was in the
> WC system.


He was in Wisconsin a total of 8 years, 3 as the RB coach and 5 as the OC. He has been part of or in charge of west coast offenses in the NFL for the last 12 years. And I'd argue that the brand of ultra conservative football played in the Big 10 in the 1990s does not translate to the current NFL.

As for the scheme, I'm all for it. We can't run the ball. The west coast offense uses the short pass to open things up for the run. We need that. The offense uses a lot of short slants and crossing routes. Our two best receivers are at their best on short routes because they have no deep speed. And our QB ran a system with west coast offense principles at Michigan for 4 years.

I'd much rather have Childress than Chudzinski.

Put this in your pipe and smoke it: We hire Chilly and bring on McNabb

Quote:

"Favre WANTED to go to Minnesota when he left GB because they ran a very very similar system and his period of adjustment would be minimal."


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Again, he coached under Barry Alvarez longer and he is very familiar with different offensive styles.

I like it, he cant adapt. He is knowledgeable. His rushers rush, his passers pass, and he recievers catch.....ALL WELL!

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"When you suck long enough, you get a Hickey"

NO to MCNABB.

BTW, if Childress didnt want to coach, then why would he accept an interview?

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Aqua&Orange Wrote:
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> BTW, if Childress didnt want to coach, then why
> would he accept an interview?


Thats right , and he doesn't satisfy the Rooney Rule.

Quote:

"jimmmyd3 Wrote:
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> Aqua&Orange Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > BTW, if Childress didnt want to coach, then why
> > would he accept an interview?
>
>
> Thats right , and he doesn't satisfy the Rooney
> Rule.


The Rooney rule only applies to Head Coaching candidates.

Childress is interviewing for the the Offensive Coordinator spot."


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Phinsfan,

I think the point jimmy and myself are making is that some guys on here are talking about the Childress being owed 3 million dollars.

But, our point is, if he was satisfied with just being paid money, then he wouldnt interview for the job.

But, he obviously wants to coach again.

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"When you suck long enough, you get a Hickey"

We should know soon if we get this guy