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Re: No Excuses Gase
Date: May 30, 2018 11:05AM

Wasn't Zonka a fullback? Ayjai couldn't block if his life depended on it.

Next year we get a roof and despite the shade.......a lot more sunshine blown up our asses!!!!

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Re: No Excuses Gase
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: May 30, 2018 11:38AM

Csonka was a ball carrier. Yes, certain plays called on him to block but in those days, the full back was not only primarily a ball carrier but was the second main component to the offense, after the QB. Yes, when Kiick carried the ball, Csonka blocked for him. And I don't remember anyone else carrying the ball much when Ajayi was in the backfield. Do you?

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Re: No Excuses Gase
Posted by: mizzou15 ()
Date: May 30, 2018 11:47AM

dolphan4545 Wrote:
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> ChyrenB Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You DO realize that I was saying Ajayi was a
> Larry
> > Csonka and that I wasn't saying that he was a
> > Mercury Morris???????????
>
> Sure. But he wasn't anything like Csonka. Csonka
> had lots of wiggle, he ran into people because he
> wanted to. Ajayi didn't have a choice. BIG
> difference.

Csonka is one of my all time favorite Phins but he had 0% wiggle. He was a locomotive build up steam and plow you in the ground. Ajayi is a big power rb w/ little wiggle in his game. Its the results that count and Ajayi gets them.

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Re: No Excuses Gase
Date: May 30, 2018 03:16PM

Lol. I can't believe we are having this conversation. BESIDES the facts tgat Czonka was a 5 time pro bowler and is a HOFer......he NEVER needed to be motivated. Never. Ayjai had 1 good season with us then he got discarded and was lucky enough to go to a Superbowl caliber team. I wish him the best.....but I bet he's not even in the NFL in 3 yrs let alone the HOF.

Next year we get a roof and despite the shade.......a lot more sunshine blown up our asses!!!!

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Re: No Excuses Gase
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: May 30, 2018 03:33PM


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Re: No Excuses Gase
Posted by: Fins72 ()
Date: May 30, 2018 04:32PM

Great coaches motivate players. Bad coaches discard promising players after less than a season and a half.Anyone that says Ajayi wasn't a promising young player is not being honest.

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Re: No Excuses Gase
Date: May 30, 2018 07:20PM

Good Coaches BENCH players when they don't block.

Then they get rid of them when they refuse to again.

Old saying: First time its on You. Second time........well.......You get traded. Just happened to be a Superbowl Caliber team . Wont take long for him to get complacent again.

Next year we get a roof and despite the shade.......a lot more sunshine blown up our asses!!!!

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Re: No Excuses Gase
Date: May 30, 2018 07:21PM

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Lol. I can't believe we are having this
> > conversation. BESIDES the facts that Czonka was
> a
> > 5 time pro bowler and is a HOFer......he NEVER
> > needed to be motivated. Never. Ayjai had 1
> good
> > season with us then he got discarded and was
> lucky
> > enough to go to a Superbowl caliber team. I
> wish
> > him the best.....but I bet he's not even in the
> > NFL in 3 yrs let alone the HOF.
>
> WHOA....neither me, Mizzou, nor Rick (dolphan4545)
> said that!


What does that mean? going back to the "gang" defense? What does Chyrene say?

Next year we get a roof and despite the shade.......a lot more sunshine blown up our asses!!!!

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Re: No Excuses Gase
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: May 30, 2018 07:52PM

What I said was that none of us said that Ajayi would duplicate Csonka in going to the Hall of Fame.

Additionally, again you throw out politically, if not racially, charged words such as "gang." For what purpose?

Given your job and your attitude, you are going to end up in the news yourself one day and it won't have anything to do with the Miami Dolphins.

I used to say that I'd be there for you but not anymore.

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Re: No Excuses Gase
Posted by: mizzou15 ()
Date: May 31, 2018 02:40AM

A wise man once said;

2 gentlemen disagreeing = 2 gentlemen disagreeing, its short

2 aholes arguing = 2 aholes arguing .... its usually long

1 ahole arguing & 1 man arguing = 2 aholes arguing


this comes to my mind a lot when i visit this site

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Re: No Excuses Gase
Posted by: jsm08 ()
Date: May 31, 2018 03:48AM

so true, mizz.

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Re: No Excuses Gase
Posted by: mizzou15 ()
Date: May 31, 2018 04:46AM

Right I was wrong on that one dolph4545. Bad recollection and stats for 2016.

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Re: No Excuses Gase
Posted by: dolphan4545 ()
Date: May 31, 2018 10:39AM

TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
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> Lol. I can't believe we are having this
> conversation. BESIDES the facts tgat Czonka was a
> 5 time pro bowler and is a HOFer......he NEVER
> needed to be motivated. Never. Ayjai had 1 good
> season with us then he got discarded and was lucky
> enough to go to a Superbowl caliber team. I wish
> him the best.....but I bet he's not even in the
> NFL in 3 yrs let alone the HOF.


Actually, I think Ajayi had four good games for us and eleven games as a decoy. His blocking was right up there with what everyone says Gesicki's blocking ability is. And, with his knees, 3 years? I wouldn't touch that bet, I think you're right. Although, you may be a little too optimistic. I didn't say it before because I didn't think it was necessary.

Rick



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Re: No Excuses Gase
Posted by: dolphan4545 ()
Date: May 31, 2018 10:56AM

mizzou15 Wrote:
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> A wise man once said;
>
> 2 gentlemen disagreeing = 2 gentlemen
> disagreeing, its short
>
> 2 aholes arguing = 2 aholes arguing ....
> its usually long
>
> 1 ahole arguing & 1 man arguing = 2 aholes arguing
>
>
>
> this comes to my mind a lot when i visit this site

Perhaps you shouldn't visit this site. This guy doesn't sound particularly wise to me. Verbally disagreeing = arguing, even if short. Arguing has a negative connotation in today's society, but its usage in this context is correct. Since this site is for this purpose, you must expect that.

Rick

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Re: No Excuses Gase
Posted by: dolphan4545 ()
Date: May 31, 2018 11:00AM

jsm08 Wrote:
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> so true, mizz.

I demur.

Rick

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Re: No Excuses Gase
Posted by: mizzou15 ()
Date: May 31, 2018 11:43AM

dolphan4545 Wrote:
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> mizzou15 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > A wise man once said;
> >
> > 2 gentlemen disagreeing = 2 gentlemen
> > disagreeing, its short
> >
> > 2 aholes arguing = 2 aholes arguing
> ....
> > its usually long
> >
> > 1 ahole arguing & 1 man arguing = 2 aholes
> arguing
> >
> >
> >
> > this comes to my mind a lot when i visit this
> site
>
> Perhaps you shouldn't visit this site. This guy
> doesn't sound particularly wise to me. Verbally
> disagreeing = arguing, even if short. Arguing has
> a negative connotation in today's society, but its
> usage in this context is correct. Since this site
> is for this purpose, you must expect that.


I stand by my post and will continue to drop in from time to time as I usually do and post as I usually do.

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Re: No Excuses Gase
Posted by: dolphan4545 ()
Date: May 31, 2018 11:49AM

samsam3738 Wrote:
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> Somebody said something and....
>
>
> Dam i just suddenly had a flashback of dion jordan
> rushing the passer.....Getting to the
> passer.....Hitting the passer.....tom brady was
> it? And bouncing off him like a rubber ball.....
>
>
> That was bad...>>WTF is dion jordan made of bro..?
> Glass.
>
>
> That has got to be the dolphins worst draft pick
> of all time.

Maybe, but there are some others that make this only a "maybe" (John Bosa, Eric Kumerow, Jason Allen come to mind). I don't remember him bouncing off Brady (though I wouldn't argue that it didn't happen), but it amazes me that Jordan was one of the very few players that could and did successfully cover Gronk, and to prove it wasn't a fluke the first time, he did it a second time. So maybe they weren't completely wrong. Before they gave him the big bucks though, they should have checked his personal habits.

Rick

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Re: No Excuses Gase
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: May 31, 2018 12:08PM

was it against brady?

Anybody recalls?

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