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Re: Rumors about trading tannehill and drafting Mayfield.
Posted by: Ken ()
Date: April 18, 2018 02:29PM

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> Ken, if Rosen, Mayfield, Rudolph, Darnold, and
> Allen end up being, in no particular order,
> Namath, Tarkenton, Unitas, Favre and Elway, and we
> don't draft one at no. 11, will you be honest
> enough to admit right here and now that in that
> weird eventually, you would AT LEAST have been
> wrong?????
>
RE: Absolutely...after all, I'm wrong all of the time. I just think we get much more value and overall quality by taking Smith or Edwards AND then Luke Falk who can learn and improve his game for two years.

> Yeah the odds of that happening are one in a
> billion. However, the odds that NONE of the five
> are going to be successful are probably ONE IN
> 100. That means that if we pick one of the five,
> the odds are better than 50-50 that this QB will
> be very good.
>
> This, again, argues that the best move for us at
> 11 is to pick one of the 5.
>
> Now the rules of this message board states that we
> are not to reveal communications on this board
> which we have in private messages.
>
> However, as an attorney, I interpret that this
> rule is only correctly read to say that you CANNOT
> a) reveal that you have received or sent a PM TO A
> PARTICULAR POSTER along with the content of that
> post.
>
> At best, however, I read the rule to prohibit
> revealing that you have received a pm from A
> PARTICULAR POSTER EVEN IF YOU DO NOT REVEAL THE
> CONTENT.
>
> However, I do not read the rule to PROHIBIT
> REVEALING THE CONTENT OF A PM YOU HAVE RECEIVED
> WHEN.........YOU IN SO DOING YOU DO NOT reveal
> FROM WHOM the pm was received.
>
> That being said, I received the below text in a pm
> from another poster and I think it hits the
> point.
>
> QUOTE: "I truly wish tranny the best hell he is
> our qb, but he just doesnt have it. Replace one
> position and we instantly get better,not great but
> atleast be competitive and with a hope to win.
> With tanny you have to rely on everyone else being
> good and well." UNQUOTE

RE: Exactly what I want...everyone to be better, including RT, or whoever is wearing our jersey. RT is trending the right way based soley on his play, JMO.

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Re: Rumors about trading tannehill and drafting Mayfield.
Date: April 19, 2018 03:14AM

You two are comical. Your looking for some kid to come in grab these guys by the facemasks and magically make them great........its a pipe dream . Your like some spoiled brat on Christmas morning praying for some uber expensive gift. But your parents hopefully are smarter then you and your getting a chemistry set to help you later in life instead of something expensive and wasteful. DEALIO....

Next year we get a roof and despite the shade.......a lot more sunshine blown up our asses!!!!

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Re: Rumors about trading tannehill and drafting Mayfield.
Posted by: astro34 ()
Date: April 19, 2018 05:21AM

BTW, Joe Namath was the worst HOF QB ever. His stats sucked, win percentage, TD/INT ratio everything. Had a great year and made a prediction (and played for Alabama). Just in case anyone wanted to know.

We are in a no win situation, no matter who we draft. Someone will not like the pick. Hope we draft well, fingers crossed!

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Re: Rumors about trading tannehill and drafting Mayfield.
Posted by: mizzou15 ()
Date: April 19, 2018 06:05AM

Namath played in NY. Everything gets inflated there 'cept the Yankees of course.They still think the Knicks are relevant.

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Re: Rumors about trading tannehill and drafting Mayfield.
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: April 19, 2018 06:48AM

Why are we comical tcpf?

Because we want a future for this team?

You really think you got it figured out dont ya?

If paid profesional coaches havent been able to fix this team in the last 25 years or so, do you think you can?

They been trying to do your plan forever here and it hasnt worked out.

Time for a change.

Understand what we are saying and let it sink in for second.

Then maybe you will see the light someday.

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Re: Rumors about trading tannehill and drafting Mayfield.
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: April 19, 2018 06:50AM

and its not only one coach that has been trying to fix the team your way...

Its a few coaches that have.


And guess what?

We in the cellar dude.

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Re: Rumors about trading tannehill and drafting Mayfield.
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: April 19, 2018 06:52AM

Maybe the best way to build a car is by getting the engine first...

Then build around the engine and add the accesories.

Wake up TCPF.

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Re: Rumors about trading tannehill and drafting Mayfield.
Posted by: Grimey13 ()
Date: April 19, 2018 07:31AM

An engine won't move a car with no tires...

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Re: Rumors about trading tannehill and drafting Mayfield.
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: April 19, 2018 08:05AM

Grimey13 Wrote:
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> An engine won't move a car with no tires...


And the tires wont run without an engine...


The engine is the most important part in a car.


Just like the qb is the most important part in a football team....

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Re: Rumors about trading tannehill and drafting Mayfield.
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: April 19, 2018 10:20AM


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Re: Rumors about trading tannehill and drafting Mayfield.
Posted by: Grimey13 ()
Date: April 20, 2018 02:22AM

samsam3738 Wrote:
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> Grimey13 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > An engine won't move a car with no tires...
>
>
> And the tires wont run without an engine...
>
>
> The engine is the most important part in a car.
>
>
> Just like the qb is the most important part in a
> football team....


You can still push a car with tires. No tires no rolling.

Although I do agree with you about the QB being the most important piece. I still think we have a QB who can succeed with the right group surrounding him.

There are very few QB's in this league that can actually carry a team.

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Re: Rumors about trading tannehill and drafting Mayfield.
Date: April 20, 2018 03:04AM

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You two are comical. Your looking for some kid
> to
> > come in grab these guys by the facemasks and
> > magically make them great........its a pipe
> dream
> > . Your like some spoiled brat on Christmas
> morning
> > praying for some uber expensive gift. But your
> > parents hopefully are smarter then you and your
> > getting a chemistry set to help you later in
> life
> > instead of something expensive and wasteful.
> > DEALIO....
>
>
> You know why I like you, Treasure? You're the
> only one I have known who can attack me and have
> me rolling on the floor with laughter each time
> you do it.smileys with beer
>
> ....errr but just paternal liking...not the kind
> you have for Tannehill. Couldn't resist leaving
> without a shot. LOL



Seriously......im glad you know behind this all I mean no offense. Really am Mali g each and every post with a smile.thumbs up

Except Sam Sam FU Ricky Ricardo....grinning smiley

Next year we get a roof and despite the shade.......a lot more sunshine blown up our asses!!!!

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Re: Rumors about trading tannehill and drafting Mayfield.
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: April 20, 2018 04:38AM


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Re: Rumors about trading tannehill and drafting Mayfield.
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: April 20, 2018 11:07AM

Come on guys. You are my two best friends.

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Re: Rumors about trading tannehill and drafting Mayfield.
Posted by: captkoi ()
Date: April 20, 2018 12:03PM

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> Quote: "Pick a QB later".............after those
> five have gone.
>
> Whew! Duh....if we're gonna do that then.... for
> what we will get, it makes more sense to see
> what's available in free agency then to pick a
> fourth round QB even if you can get him in the
> third round (which will happen directly due to the
> fact that the top five will be gone in the 1st and
> 2nd rounds).

****************************************************

If one of the top 4/5 QBs drops to Miami, I could understand Miami drafting him. Miami cannot trade up to get a QB (or a player in any other needed position). Miami doesn't have the ammo to trade up.

I am hoping that when Miami comes up, that there will be a particular player that a few teams truly want and would be willing to make a trade. If that is the case, AND Miami doesn't trade back too far, then I am all for it.

Too many holes to fill. Trading back (a few spots) will help as there will be, more than likely, a couple/few extra picks for Miami.

Now, as long as the brass doesn't screw up on the picks, Miami will be able to improve.

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Re: Rumors about trading tannehill and drafting Mayfield.
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: April 20, 2018 03:43PM

Oh!!!!!! A thousand times OH! I NEVER meant that we should trade UP! Sorry for any false impression. Only take one at 11.

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Re: Rumors about trading tannehill and drafting Mayfield.
Date: April 20, 2018 07:03PM

If A QB actually dropped to us.....my god we could rape a team like Buffalo who has the most picks in the first 3 rounds then anybody.......wow.

Next year we get a roof and despite the shade.......a lot more sunshine blown up our asses!!!!

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Re: Rumors about trading tannehill and drafting Mayfield.
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: April 20, 2018 10:13PM

But after ten years and that Buffalo QB turns out to beat us like a drum ..... what would all those later round picks mean???? Oh, I know what you are going to say......you are going to say it will surround Tanny with a Greise like team.

The contradiction in your position, however, is that you, like the rest of us, know that out front office is staffed with idiots. So they would screw up those lower picks, even if they tried to draft at the positions that you are advocating.

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Re: Rumors about trading tannehill and drafting Mayfield.
Date: April 21, 2018 02:56AM

In hoping Gase is a voice of reason in the draft this time around. Our Oline picks have sucked.

Next year we get a roof and despite the shade.......a lot more sunshine blown up our asses!!!!

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Re: Rumors about trading tannehill and drafting Mayfield.
Posted by: CincinnatiFinFAn ()
Date: April 24, 2018 08:09AM

Too much work to do, too many holes to fill to take a QB in round 1. Doesn't matter wo we draft, he has to be protected. doesn't matter who we draft, our defense was bottom 10 in pass rush, and INT's (related stats) and bottom 1/2 in every other meaningful stat. The QB is the most important position on the field, but even the 2nd coming of Marino couldn't carry a team that cannot defend, or get out of their own way on rushing downs. Great QB class this year, but there will be others, and until we can build a solid team around O-Line / D-Line ... picking a QB first is a waste of our top pick (in my opinion)

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Re: Rumors about trading tannehill and drafting Mayfield.
Date: April 24, 2018 08:53AM

Well stated Cincy.thumbs up

Next year we get a roof and despite the shade.......a lot more sunshine blown up our asses!!!!

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Re: Rumors about trading tannehill and drafting Mayfield.
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: April 24, 2018 09:54AM


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Re: Rumors about trading tannehill and drafting Mayfield.
Posted by: Grimey13 ()
Date: April 24, 2018 10:11AM

ChyrenB Wrote:
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>
> Name me one great team in the recent past that
> didn't have a great QB.
>
> Not Brady's New England. Not Bradshaw's
> Pittsburgh. Not Cincinnati Bengals, Kenny
> Anderson or Boomer Esiason, not Dallas' Staubach,
> Aikman or Romo.
>
> Please....I beg you...name one team that was
> carried without such a great or good
> quarterback???????????????????????
>


Dilfer (Baltimore), Kap (49er's), Flacco (Balt again) and yes Flacco is garbage, Grossman (Bears) and I would even say Foles last year since he was the winner not necessarily the reason they got to the playoffs.

That is just going back to '06.

The majority of the others teams had Brady, Rodgers, Brees, Roethlisberger, Ryan, Newton and Wilson. Even with Wilson and Newton they both had amazing "D" behind them.

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Re: Rumors about trading tannehill and drafting Mayfield.
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: April 24, 2018 10:18AM

Grimey, I'm not saying there has never been a Super Bowl winning team without a good QB. LOL. Of course there has been.

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Re: Rumors about trading tannehill and drafting Mayfield.
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: April 24, 2018 10:20AM

But there have been 50 odd SuperBowls. How many of those teams did you mention????

I don't remember hearing 40 or 30 or 20 even.

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Re: Rumors about trading tannehill and drafting Mayfield.
Posted by: Grimey13 ()
Date: April 24, 2018 10:26AM

You said name a great team and I thought Super Bowl winning teams were pretty great.

But not all those guys won Super Bowls either just took their teams to the Super Bowl.

There are plenty more teams that had serviceable (I would not call them great) QB's that were able to carry them to the playoffs and beyond.

I just don't see anyone in the top 5 falling to us. If they did I would not be totally upset or pissed. I would prefer a beast LB over anything of course. I think our 2 weakest positions are LB and TE and of course the revolving door that is the O-Line but that is better with the Free Agency adds and loses I think.

And that was only going back to 06. So 12 years...Shouldn't be able to list 20, 30 or 40 teams.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/24/2018 10:31AM by Grimey13.

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Re: Rumors about trading tannehill and drafting Mayfield.
Posted by: Grimey13 ()
Date: April 24, 2018 10:29AM

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> But there have been 50 odd SuperBowls. How many
> of those teams did you mention????
>
> I don't remember hearing 40 or 30 or 20 even.


You said recent past. I did that off the top of my head. I am not going out and researching this. I had a free 10 minutes and thought I should chime in on it.

Plus unlike you I wasn't born before the Super Bowl was the Super Bowl. I am a young buck so I can't answer for those old legends that you grew up watching.

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Re: Rumors about trading tannehill and drafting Mayfield.
Posted by: CincinnatiFinFAn ()
Date: April 24, 2018 10:42AM


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Re: Rumors about trading tannehill and drafting Mayfield.
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: April 24, 2018 11:04AM

Cincy, it is hard to pick a QB because there is no guarantee he will be a success. But that goes double for running back and that goes triple for receivers and that goes quadruple for secondary players and kickers. And....that goes quintupple for linemen and multiply that when you are following Treasure's suggestion and picking those linemen in later rounds.

Are you sure you're on board with that?

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Re: Rumors about trading tannehill and drafting Mayfield.
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: April 24, 2018 01:57PM

wait a minute chren check this here....


Weve picked a qb twice in the last 30 years or so since marino in the first round.....

And they both worked out......Marino was a star and tannehill turned out very good too...Not by marino standards but he is very capable...


TCPF WHAT MAKES YOU BELIEVE THAT IF WE PICK ANOTHER QB IN THE FIRST ROUND HE WILL NOT BE VERY GOOD.

So far we are 2 for 2 in 30 years.

Guarantee you that if had picked a qb in the first round in between those years we would had gone further in the playoffs.....

1. ROdgers
2. RYAN instead of jake long YUK
3. Brees..

And wanted either of them and we didnt even tried to get them

JUst like i wanted deshaun watson last year and we didnt trade up.....Look it up.

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