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Re: Rumors about trading tannehill and drafting Mayfield.
Date: April 16, 2018 09:34AM

jsm08 Wrote:
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> You guys may want to take a closer look at this
> "magical" 6 game streak. Take a look at the
> competition, the horrible starts and why we had to
> come from behind, and ajayi's contributions in
> those games.
>
> Tannehill was very pedestrian.
>
> Hanging your hat on 6 games against bad teams in
> his 5th year isn't the best argument.
>
> We've tried upgrading the talent around T-hill but
> have never given him any real competition. It's
> time we do that.


LOL. He cant win. Even when he does well and wins he then its OTHER PLAYERS that did it. When he loses.......Tannehill sucks. Do you even listen to yourselves? grinning smiley

Next year we get a roof and despite the shade.......a lot more sunshine blown up our asses!!!!

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Re: Rumors about trading tannehill and drafting Mayfield.
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: April 16, 2018 10:58AM

Yes, we listen to ourselves and we make sense to each other....however, I'm not including you in that when it comes to Tannehill, Doris Day.

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Re: Rumors about trading tannehill and drafting Mayfield.
Date: April 16, 2018 05:45PM

Your tired of losing......i get that. But it's blinding you to the real cuase.

Next year we get a roof and despite the shade.......a lot more sunshine blown up our asses!!!!

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Re: Rumors about trading tannehill and drafting Mayfield.
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: April 16, 2018 06:55PM

TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
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> Your tired of losing......i get that. But it's
> blinding you to the real cuase.


Which is what????????? To be loyal to the guy who's got the job now.....Tannehill/????????

Anything can be a vice, Treasure, and loyalty to excess also can be a vice and your loyalty to Tannehill is to the point of being not only way overboard but a vice.

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Re: Rumors about trading tannehill and drafting Mayfield.
Date: April 16, 2018 09:09PM

Some people see the glass half full.

I see 4,000 yrs a season. Rookie records, and a QB that never complained once even though his Offensive line that blew more assignments then Stormy Daniels on a porn shoot.

Next year we get a roof and despite the shade.......a lot more sunshine blown up our asses!!!!

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Re: Rumors about trading tannehill and drafting Mayfield.
Posted by: mizzou15 ()
Date: April 17, 2018 03:35AM

Mathew Stafford plays behind a terrible Oline and DET's rushing O ranked dead last in the nfl.

2017 47 sacks 65% comp, 29/10 td/int rec 9-7
2016 37 sacks 65% comp, 24/10 td/int rec 9-7

Tanne
2016 29 sacks 67% comp, 19/12 td/int rec 8-5


12/ints in 13 games is not on coaching or the front office. The point, Stafford is doing more in a more adverse situation.

Front office went out and improved the OL this off season. No more injured, no blitz/stunt calling Pouncey, 'I cannot play LG' Larson goes to RG or on the bench. Resigned James which was the smart move. Tunsil goes into his second year at LT. So the front office gutted the oline excuse should be taken off the table.

Our top 4 WRs have 25 combined years of NFL experience, over 10k yards and 60+ tds. He will not be throwing to rookies. Gase goes into his 3rd year of calling plays hopefully he gets his act together this year too.

I have supported Tanne but its time for him to deliver.

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Re: Rumors about trading tannehill and drafting Mayfield.
Posted by: jsm08 ()
Date: April 17, 2018 05:25AM

i agree but tannehill should have had legit competition each year. so we're in year 7 trying to build around they guy and if he fails this year it seems like a wasted 7 years.

the stats i posted earlier were from chad henne. comparable to tanne's streak. we tried adding pieces for him too and it didn't work.

when you don't have legit competition or a backup plan for the most important player on the field you get stuck in these 7 year ruts.

next year's QB class sucks. Now is the time to use a high pick for your contingency plan. If Mayfield makes it to 11 I'd pull the trigger. I wouldn't for Allen, Jackson or Rudolph. If one of those fell to the second round I'd grab them then.

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Re: Rumors about trading tannehill and drafting Mayfield.
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: April 17, 2018 06:14AM

But for tcpf its tannehill or nothing he is so in love that he cant see straight..


He has no backup plan because he thinks tannehill is going to be healthy this year and be a dominant force for the next 15 years...


OOPS...In 15 years tannehill will be ready for medicare.

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Re: Rumors about trading tannehill and drafting Mayfield.
Posted by: mizzou15 ()
Date: April 17, 2018 06:58AM

jsm08 Wrote:
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> i agree but tannehill should have had legit
> competition each year. so we're in year 7 trying
> to build around they guy and if he fails this year
> it seems like a wasted 7 years.
>
> the stats i posted earlier were from chad henne.
> comparable to tanne's streak. we tried adding
> pieces for him too and it didn't work.
>
> when you don't have legit competition or a backup
> plan for the most important player on the field
> you get stuck in these 7 year ruts.
>
> next year's QB class sucks. Now is the time to
> use a high pick for your contingency plan. If
> Mayfield makes it to 11 I'd pull the trigger. I
> wouldn't for Allen, Jackson or Rudolph. If one of
> those fell to the second round I'd grab them then.

I agree 100% on all of your points except next years qb draft, it might be deeper than this years. That's why I would go for a guy like Falk or White in rnd 3 this year. Then go back in and get another guy in 2019. At the same time would not be disappointed if we drafted a qb at #1 this year.

Check these college qbs out in 2018:
Drew Lock MO
Clayton Thorson Nwestern
Shea Patterson MI
Jacob Eason WA
Jarrett Stidham Auburn
Francois FSU
Grier WV
Fitzgerald MS ST
Jones Duke
Finley NC ST

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Re: Rumors about trading tannehill and drafting Mayfield.
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: April 17, 2018 09:26AM

Draft the QB of our FUTURE in the 3rd or 4th round, Treasure??? That's an astounding statement. Does this even make sense to anyone else here????

And don't give me that Tom Brady crap. That ONLY happens once in a lifetime.



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Date: April 17, 2018 10:08AM


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Re: Rumors about trading tannehill and drafting Mayfield.
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: April 17, 2018 10:45AM

You are pointing to the exceptions, not the rule and exception of Wilson, the others never carried their teams. If your point is, on the other hand, that a great QB ain't necessary to have....then reciting your position does not constitute proof that it is true.

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Re: Rumors about trading tannehill and drafting Mayfield.
Date: April 17, 2018 11:57AM

Yes it does. Of course it does.and we have our future QB. We just need to put him in a place to succeed. You won't get to rub one out on draft day, but a trade down and 2-3 more picks makes us a better team.

Next year we get a roof and despite the shade.......a lot more sunshine blown up our asses!!!!

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Re: Rumors about trading tannehill and drafting Mayfield.
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: April 17, 2018 12:17PM

Okay, it's time for a poll.

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Re: Rumors about trading tannehill and drafting Mayfield.
Date: April 17, 2018 01:41PM

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> Okay, it's time for a poll.


Why can't make an argument for your opinion? Winning.....winking smiley

Next year we get a roof and despite the shade.......a lot more sunshine blown up our asses!!!!

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Re: Rumors about trading tannehill and drafting Mayfield.
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: April 17, 2018 03:15PM

Now I could say something about the reason for the poll being to see how others felt....or maybe to convince someone he is .............losing...................... .winking smiley

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Re: Rumors about trading tannehill and drafting Mayfield.
Date: April 18, 2018 03:23AM

I did research. Gave examples. Showed past history.

You just want a feel good pick on draft day.

Next year we get a roof and despite the shade.......a lot more sunshine blown up our asses!!!!

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Re: Rumors about trading tannehill and drafting Mayfield.
Posted by: Ken ()
Date: April 18, 2018 04:45AM

Ryan Tannehill is the third best quarterback in yards passing in his first four seasons as a pro. Behind Peyton Manning and Dan Marino. Not bad in my book.

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Re: Rumors about trading tannehill and drafting Mayfield.
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: April 18, 2018 05:14AM

And TCPF you are hoping that tannehill is healthy to start season.

You have no backup plan in case he can't play.

Its either tannehill or nobody else.

So if tannehill cant play the season its over.

And you are ok with it.

You are lost.

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Re: Rumors about trading tannehill and drafting Mayfield.
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: April 18, 2018 06:15AM

And dont say the two other scrubs behind him can play please.

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Re: Rumors about trading tannehill and drafting Mayfield.
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: April 18, 2018 06:18AM

Dont worry tcpf.....Soon we will know if the front office agrees with you or with us.

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Re: Rumors about trading tannehill and drafting Mayfield.
Posted by: astro34 ()
Date: April 18, 2018 07:02AM

If anyone can tell me a QB that you could have replaced Marino with and made any of his teams win a Super Bowl please enlighten me. Football is the most "team" sport. Three separate teams ( offense, defense and special teams) We need a team full of good players.

I do think we have no plan other than going with RT this year and if he gets hurt we are SOL.

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Re: Rumors about trading tannehill and drafting Mayfield.
Date: April 18, 2018 07:15AM

Oh I garantee they will do something stupid Sam. Doesn't matter what they do. That won't make you or me right.

But if you have 10 holes and no depth it makes sense that you would try to get more picks to fill more holes.Not give up picks to move up for a QB especially when you have a very serviceable one itching to prove something.

But you want a quick feel good fix.i get it. Screw Miami's future and this season right? winking smiley go smoke another bowl....smoking smiley

Next year we get a roof and despite the shade.......a lot more sunshine blown up our asses!!!!

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Re: Rumors about trading tannehill and drafting Mayfield.
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: April 18, 2018 07:26AM

Why would we screw miamis future if we pick a qb in the first round?eye rolling smiley




This is not the only draft....There will be many more drafts in the future.


YOu dont want us to pick a qb because you think tannehill is going to be healthy and play lights out.

We need a backup plan.

How many more times shall i say it.

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Re: Rumors about trading tannehill and drafting Mayfield.
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: April 18, 2018 07:46AM

And if it doesnt work out this year then draft another in the first next and next and next until it finnally works out.

WHen you finnally have that great qb in place then.....

After that you can surround him with a supporting cast....


We havent done this in 25 years and look where we end up every year. In last place.

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Re: Rumors about trading tannehill and drafting Mayfield.
Posted by: Ken ()
Date: April 18, 2018 09:46AM

Sam, NO ONE would draft a QB in the first round multiple seasons in a row. To do so would be gross waste of draft capital and would get you run out of town. Now after you take your first round guy, to take others in lower rounds makes complete sense. If we take a first round guy this year it'll be because a guy fell in our lap...

I say Falk in the second.

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Re: Rumors about trading tannehill and drafting Mayfield.
Date: April 18, 2018 11:03AM

Sam.....why don't we use tbat same logic on a Oline? MLB? YOUR blind bro.
We have huge glaring needs.we can't fill them all with 7 picks. We trade down and get more. That's the smart move. Pick a,QB later. Teams win superbowls with late round And all the time if the team is good enough.

Next year we get a roof and despite the shade.......a lot more sunshine blown up our asses!!!!

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Re: Rumors about trading tannehill and drafting Mayfield.
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: April 18, 2018 11:06AM


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Re: Rumors about trading tannehill and drafting Mayfield.
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: April 18, 2018 11:24AM

Quote: "Pick a QB later".............after those five have gone.

Whew! Duh....if we're gonna do that then.... for what we will get, it makes more sense to see what's available in free agency then to pick a fourth round QB even if you can get him in the third round (which will happen directly due to the fact that the top five will be gone in the 1st and 2nd rounds).

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Re: Rumors about trading tannehill and drafting Mayfield.
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: April 18, 2018 01:00PM

TCPF Is lost chren.....Why even bother to reason with him


**EDIT Please do not speculate on the author of private messages (they are private, remember?) and do not refer to alternate identities of posters i.e. "So-and-so is really the same person as Whatshisame."



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