Another point I like....

If Joseph can earn the trust/respect of a numb skull like Pacman Jones, he has a good shot to develop a relationship with Ndamnukong Suh. Word is Suh runs the D-line room.

I think he'll need a strong D-line coach to earn Suh's respect. Possibly an older coach who can still relate to young players. This will be important.

whoever is not annoyed at this sorry organization and players and coaches is not a miami dolphins fan.

samsam3738 Wrote:
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> When you miss the playoffs for so many years thats
> what you are going to get....
>
>
> And it doesnt seem to get any better anytime soon.

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Up to a point, Sam.

Was your reply meant to be applied to his later post, Cap?

samsam3738 Wrote:
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> First this team has 15 to 20 or more cancerous
> players that they need to release.....They are of
> the ones that when the tough gets going the
> quit......I dont know who they are......Will be
> very hard to be cured of this disease.......
>
>
> Second.....We have not a decent coach on this
> team....
>
>
> Third the owner is clueless.......He likes to hire
> celebrities without a clue to be his partners.
>
> Forth we have no QB. No OLine, The cbs
> stink....The LBs are even worse.
>
> Receivers we have 2.....Landry and parker showed
> some flashes...Jury still out on him. Has
> potential.
>
> Rbs....Watch lamar miller jump ship for a better
> chance of making playoffs.
>
> Overall we are a huge mess....
>
> And its going to take years of therapy to cure the
> desease that is the miami dolphins.

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You say this team has 15-20 cancerous players....BUT YOU DON'T KNOW WHO THEY ARE. Then how do you know there are that many? I will agree that the Fins do have some, but...

No decent coach on this team. Well, we don't know that statement to be fact or not as the season has yet to start. Since Gase, et al, is our coach, I think he should be given a chance to see what he can or can't do. A chance means a few years. If I recall correctly, Shula had no HC experience either when he took the Colts job...worked out pretty well.

Owner is clueless.....Um, can't argue that one. Let's just hope the FO has done it right, this time, and Ross comes out of this smelling like a rose.

We have a QB. We need two decent to good guards. At least one tackle who could fill in, if needed. CBs are average, at best, but in today's NFL, that is not good enough. Grimes could make a good #2. LBers need an upgrade.

Receiver is Miami's strength. Two solid, Landry and Parker, one who has more potential than what was shown (Stills), and Matthews, who will probably leave. Need to upgrade the TE position, also.

Miller will probably leave, as you said, but not because he will be looking for a playoff team. It will be a team that offers him more money than Miami, along with a team that will utilize him more than Miami did. We still have Ajayi (tho I don't trust him to stay healthy) and Williams is a decent back.

I wouldn't say Miami is a huge mess, but they do need a coaching staff that can get the best out of them, which means putting them in the position where they can utilize their skills to the fullest.

Work to be done, no question, but we can only hope the brain trust can do it right, this time.

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> Was your reply meant to be applied to his later
> post, Cap?

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Si.

samsam3738 Wrote:
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> When you miss the playoffs for so many years thats
> what you are going to get....
>
>
> And it doesnt seem to get any better anytime soon.


Lost our Hickey! LOl

samsam3738 Wrote:
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> whoever is not annoyed at this sorry organization
> and players and coaches is not a miami dolphins
> fan.


First thing in a while that actually makes sense sam. Isn't it nice not waking up with a hangover?

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
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> samsam3738 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > whoever is not annoyed at this sorry
> organization
> > and players and coaches is not a miami dolphins
> > fan.
>
>
> First thing in a while that actually makes sense
> sam. Isn't it nice not waking up with a hangover?


TCPF why dont you go put a ticket and rip off someone would you?

One thing to be annoyed and pissed. Another thing to make post after post about how shitty your team is.

FootballGod, here's an exercise in logic, if your team is sh*tty (and there can be no doubt ours is) and this is a chatboard posting about the condition of your team, how can you logically post anything but "about how sh*tty your team is"???????????

Yep. When there is smoke there is fire Chyrene!

Sam Sam.......??? I know english is a second language but try to make sense?

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> FootballGod, here's an exercise in logic, if your
> team is sh*tty (and there can be no doubt ours is)
> and this is a chatboard posting about the
> condition of your team, how can you logically post
> anything but "about how sh*tty your team
> is"???????????

You see, you either get what I'm trying to say and you're just debating me for the lolz, or you honestly don't understand that I'm trying to point out the EXTREME negativity that has hit this board lately. I've been on this board for almost 6 years, and I've never seen it as bad as this. Yes, the team is in need of a lot of changes. Yes we have been in the shitcan for 15 years. However, as a fan I have to have some, at least some, belief that the fins will succeed next year. Otherwise I'm not a fan, I'm an ex fan. If every single post you make is about how horrible and wrong the team is, then I have to ask you why you are labeling yourself a fan, and why you continue to post.

There is a difference between posting about the areas you see as problems and ways to remedy the situation and just posting "we suck" and "sell the team" on every single post. (not talking about Chyren as I don't think he does this)

You could talk about many things.....

What kind of defense will the new DC run? What dead weight will we cut? Who can we sign to fix the issues? What kind of success has our new offensive staff had with QB's? What free agents should we resign? Who should we draft?....hundreds of topics...

But when you just bash every aspect and derail EVERY post with whining and crying ABOUT THE SAME CRAP, you sound like a big baby who just got his pacifier taken away.

JoeFootball Wrote:
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> There is a difference between posting about the
> areas you see as problems and ways to remedy the
> situation and just posting "we suck" and "sell the
> team" on every single post. (not talking about
> Chyren as I don't think he does this)
>
> You could talk about many things.....
>
> What kind of defense will the new DC run? What
> dead weight will we cut? Who can we sign to fix
> the issues? What kind of success has our new
> offensive staff had with QB's? What free agents
> should we resign? Who should we draft?....hundreds
> of topics...
>
> But when you just bash every aspect and derail
> EVERY post with whining and crying ABOUT THE SAME
> CRAP, you sound like a big baby who just got his
> pacifier taken away.


Can't wait till you say this once again next year when we suck once again and are out of the playoffs by midseason.

Perfect example. Thanks for playing Sam!

JoeFootball Wrote:
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> Perfect example. Thanks for playing Sam!


No Its the truth. Same ol Same ol for the last 20 years or so.


What number is next year 21st or so?


PS. And iam exstatic about all the scrub coaches weve hiresd to far.

PS2. One of them has a magic wand, and is going to touch tannehill with it and suddenly tannehill is going to become good.

Im upset and annoyed as hell.

New england keeps winning and its getting on my nerves.

samsam3738 Wrote:
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> JoeFootball Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > There is a difference between posting about the
> > areas you see as problems and ways to remedy
> the
> > situation and just posting "we suck" and "sell
> the
> > team" on every single post. (not talking about
> > Chyren as I don't think he does this)
> >
> > You could talk about many things.....
> >
> > What kind of defense will the new DC run? What
> > dead weight will we cut? Who can we sign to fix
> > the issues? What kind of success has our new
> > offensive staff had with QB's? What free agents
> > should we resign? Who should we
> draft?....hundreds
> > of topics...
> >
> > But when you just bash every aspect and derail
> > EVERY post with whining and crying ABOUT THE
> SAME
> > CRAP, you sound like a big baby who just got
> his
> > pacifier taken away.
>
>
> Can't wait till you say this once again next year
> when we suck once again and are out of the
> playoffs by midseason.

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Sam, there are some posters here who do not write 100% negativity. At times, a post will be about how poorly the team played. Mostly, however, it is just as Joe said (above)...draft, coaching, FA, etc. Others just can't get over how bad the team is, and in some cases, how bad any particular player is.

samsam3738 Wrote:
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> JoeFootball Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Perfect example. Thanks for playing Sam!
>
>
> No Its the truth. Same ol Same ol for the last 20
> years or so.
>
>
> What number is next year 21st or so?
>
>
> PS. And iam exstatic about all the scrub coaches
> weve hiresd to far.
>
> PS2. One of them has a magic wand, and is going to
> touch tannehill with it and suddenly tannehill is
> going to become good.

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I understand your feeling, Sam, however, until this coaching staff gets on the job, we know absolutely nothing about what is or isn't going to happen.

I mentioned in an earlier post that Shula had no previous HC experience until the Colts hired him. Not a bad hire. Shula was also the youngest HC (at the time).

What I am saying is that we, as fans, must give the new regime a chance before throwing them in the shitter.

It's all in how you characterize the talk on this board, Joe.

We've talked and still do talk about the other things such as what moves we make.


But we also talk about how we've been down this road before....hoping those prior moves would make a difference.......

Capkoi we have been down through the same road so many times that im pessimistic about how its all going to turn out.


Hopefully its all for the best finnally.


One day we have to get it right.


All iam hoping is that gase is here for the next 30 years meaning he will be successfull as the miami dolphins head coach.

i didnt see this post when i was writting...


chren b quote: But we also talk about how we've been down this road before....hoping those prior moves would make a difference.......


Exactly.



Maybe if we were in the playoffs or lamar miller for example would be tearing it down rushing the football or tannehill would had broken 4500 passing, then we would have more interesting things to talk about....


I know it gets annoying but some of us are just frustrated as hell...


You remember when the year started.....How we were all optimistic about our chances .....how tannehill was actually handed all the new receivers.....How tannehill talked about been in sync with the receivers....etc...


I dont know about all of you but when the season started i was in a sky high....

5 games into the season we were almost out of the playoffs.

Its not easy to come crashing down like that...

Im so down i would consider just one playoff loss a successfull season next year.


Do you get it now TCPF. Have i explained myself?........If you dont feel the same way then you are not a dolphin fan....>And that goes for the rest of you on this board.

And i do appresiate all the stat geeks or the ones that talk the phins issues..etc...I read it all and i enjoy it a lot.


But dont mind some of us blowing up some steam to relieve the frustrations.....thats what this board is for as well..


To relieve some tention.


Everyday i build some tention when i see new england in the playoffs...

Now back to:


Vance Joseph hired as new DC

samsam3738 Wrote:

> Now back to: Vance Joseph hired as new DC


Now this is the hire that scares me. Joseph has never been a DC before, ever. Not even for a two bit no name college team. Kevin Coyle was a DC for 5 different college teams and he still sucked.

808phan any move the dolphins and ross make scares the crap out of me too.