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Don't forget that perfect passer rating game came with Tannehill not throwing a single pass farther than 5.5 yards beyond the LOS.
It was all quick slants and bubble screens that many Tannehill supports hate and think is restricting his play making ability. So in essence, the only time he's really had a great game passing wise it was because he was being handcuffed.
Phins5.0 Wrote:
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> Don't forget that perfect passer rating game came
> with Tannehill not throwing a single pass farther
> than 5.5 yards beyond the LOS.
>
> It was all quick slants and bubble screens that
> many Tannehill supports hate and think is
> restricting his play making ability. So in
> essence, the only time he's really had a great
> game passing wise it was because he was being
> handcuffed.
>
> Hmmm..
True, RT did complete 5 yarders that went for long gains/TDs. I've been watching games on TV and noticing just about every team is doing the same thing, but never hear "Yeah, but he only threw it 5 yards." It's only with RT.
Some seem to forget that along with those 5 yarders, he also connected on some down the field.
808phan Wrote:
> >
> > We were destined to stink this year.
>
> We were destined to stink ever since Marino
> retired. Hopefully the Pats will suffer the same
> fate but I doubt it. Their franchise has a much
> better eye for talent and actually knows how to
> draft.
RE: I think they will...when Belichek and Brady are both gone, the Pat's fall apart, bank on it.
Phins5.0 Wrote:
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> I knew someone was going to bring that back up.
>
> True, RT did complete 5 yarders that went for long
> gains/TDs. I've been watching games on TV and
> noticing just about every team is doing the same
> thing, but never hear "Yeah, but he only threw it
> 5 yards." It's only with RT.
>
> Some seem to forget that along with those 5
> yarders, he also connected on some down the
> field.
>
> A QB takes what the defense gives him.
>
> I'm just looking for some consistency, that's all.
> I don't see how people are blaming the offensive
> play calling and the system for Tannehill's
> continued mediocrity on one hand but on the other
> hand using a game where the offensive play calling
> and system resulted in Tannehill's best
> performance ever to pump up Tannehill as a
> potentially great QB.
>
> It seems completely contradictory to me. I guess
> we'll see how well Tannehill does the rest of the
> season with an offense that should be run and play
> action and simplified and game plans built with
> Tannehill's input.
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As I've said before, Phins5.0, the problems start at the top all the way to the bottom.
All you need to know about Tanny can be summed up with the play that turned off my TV.
Week 12...first possesion...second quarter...2nd down and 8 @ the 35...shotgun snap...defender coming "straight" up the middle...it's just the Fathead cut out and the sacker on my TV screen for what seems like forever due to the distance between them...crumpled...loss of 10...hit power...take dog out.
Listen folks, he's from Lubbock Texas. I'm from Lawton, Oklahoma. I mean, we're "home boys." When I first went to South Central L. A. in 1965, as a teenager, the folks used to call me "home boy" (and it didn't mean gangs in 1965) and "The Cowboy." "Home boy" meant, in L.A., you were "from down home where our parents came from. "Down South" or from "Texoma land." You guys don't think I've been praying for him to do well????
Give him a wide-open set of option plays or bench him.
AFCbeast Wrote:
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> All you need to know about Tanny can be summed up
> with the play that turned off my TV.
> Week 12...first possesion...second quarter...2nd
> down and 8 @ the 35...shotgun snap...defender
> coming "straight" up the middle...it's just the
> Fathead cut out and the sacker on my TV screen for
> what seems like forever due to the distance
> between them...crumpled...loss of 10...hit
> power...take dog out.
EXACTLY. I have noticed the same thing quite a few times. Look, our OLine is no stone wall, everyone realizes that. But i'm sorry, if you're an NFL QB, especially one who is supposed to be 'mobile', you HAVE to be able to avoid a rusher...you just do. Even Marino could and Brady can, step up, step away to avoid the sack. Tannehill seems to freeze or not even see/sense the pressure. It's another in the long litany of things that make up the 'IT' of being an NFL QB that Tannehill seems to be missing.
I was watching NO and Carolina Sunday after our game. The Saint's line is a sieve. But Brees was able to avoid the rush a lot, often even against multiple rushers who came clean, only take 2 sacks, move his team, score when needed and keep a team with a losing record in the game against maybe the best team in the NFC at present right till the end. Thats what a good NFL QB can do.
Maybe more roll outs and let him move around some. He has athletic ability... maybe let him loose running every now and then. Maybe that will turn out to be his strongpoint.
His arm is decent, his accuracy is decent, his athletic ability is more than decent... try it out.
The most depressing thing about the offense to me is the PLAY CALLING!!! That short passing game is barely annoying to the defenses if you cant go long... plus having zero to limited running game.
what about
kyle orton
matt flynn
trent green
aj feely
and
all the other trash we wanted to bring in here b/c we are so desperate for a QB we are delusional
no thanks
the only way we improve at QB in a way that matters if by some miracle RT takes 3 leaps forward or we stumble into a stud in the draft
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The beatings will continue until morale improves.
So what you are saying is a pox on all of our houses, berk, right? Both we who are looking to bring in another quarterback are delusional and those who think RT ("BY SOME MIRACLE" will take 3 leaps forward are equally delusional in your book, right?
ChyrenB Wrote:
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> So what you are saying is a pox on all of our
> houses, berk, right? Both we who are looking to
> bring in another quarterback are delusional and
> those who think RT ("BY SOME MIRACLE" will take 3
> leaps forward are equally delusional in your book,
> right?
yep we are pretty much screwed. we we need lightning to strike because whatever move we try to make will be wrong. so let's hope Tanny turns it around or we get another '83 stroke of luck and hope a marino falls into our laps.
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The beatings will continue until morale improves.
How about MNF? Some of you regard drafting another quarterback this year even in LATER ROUNDS, as some kind of adultery against Ryan Tannehill.
Denver drafted Brock Osweiler. It was in recognition that you can't put all your eggs in the one quarterback basket.
You usually have your number one quarterback and another quarterback on the roster who competes with him and is a second 'first' best.
Denver had Brock Osweiler while having Peyton Manning.
In 1982, the Dolphins went to the SuperBowl with a young quarterback, David Woodley. The next year, SIX reputed great quarterbacks were available. With the last pick, Miami picked Dan Marino.
what if Tanny suffered a career ending injury?
We need a quarterback that is not just a back up but looking to the future or looking toward an unfortunate accident.
ChyrenB Wrote:
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> How about MNF? Some of you regard drafting
> another quarterback this year even in LATER
> ROUNDS, as some kind of adultery against Ryan
> Tannehill.
>
> Denver drafted Brock Osweiler. It was in
> recognition that you can't put all your eggs in
> the one quarterback basket.
>
>
> You usually have your number one quarterback and
> another quarterback on the roster who competes
> with him and is a second 'first' best.
>
>
> Denver had Brock Osweiler while having Peyton
> Manning.
>
> In 1982, the Dolphins went to the SuperBowl with a
> young quarterback, David Woodley. The next year,
> SIX reputed great quarterbacks were available.
> With the last pick, Miami picked Dan Marino.
>
> what if Tanny suffered a career ending injury?
>
> We need a quarterback that is not just a back up
> but looking to the future or looking toward an
> unfortunate accident.
>
> As I said in another post, Cody Kessler, USC.
Don't know, Chryen. I believe the majority of us advocate taking another QB in every draft, if necessary. Never know, we may strike gold, ala Tom Brady.