trade up for kevin white....

Not happening unless Clay walks.

JoeFootball Wrote:
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> Not happening unless Clay walks.


Not happening, period.

In order to secure White you have to move up to #3 ahead of the Raiders.

We don't have the ammo for that.

THE Truth Wrote:
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> JoeFootball Wrote:
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> > Not happening unless Clay walks.
>
>
> Not happening, period.
>
> In order to secure White you have to move up to #3
> ahead of the Raiders.
>
> We don't have the ammo for that.

It doesn't have to be White. Could be Parker or Cooper. All very close in value.

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> Not happening unless Clay walks.

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Still not gonna happen.

Miami already lost their 3rd rounder; can't afford to lose any more draft picks with so many holes.

I'm thinking of targeting 3 Players of talent and if they are not on the board then I would try my best to trade down and select the best fit at MLB or S.

There is talk of Amari Cooper falling out of the top ten which would have been inconceivable a month ago.

But, at 14 I am looking to add Pro bowl caliber talent. The size and talent of the WR's in this draft still has to be a consideration. I like the way Parker goes after the ball.

If the top Corner is available.... we should give serious consideration.

What if Shelton is still available? Tough choice. If we can trade down and get that 3rd round draft choice back it would be great.

I'm not really looking at RB early in this draft because I don't believe that we are hurting in that area or are being stalled because of a lack of running game.

Our redzone offense needs redzone targets and protection.

I'm looking at Danny Shelton, Trae Waynes, Devante Parker as my top 3 or trade down picks.

In a trade down scenaro I'm looking at Landon Collins at safety or a starting caliber MLB.

Jim, I disagree. Lamar is a great scat back who be great on a team with a line that could open holes for him. He could also be great catching short passes out of the backfield. But he doesn't do much of that either. We really DON'T have either a satisfactory running OR passing game. If we can get one.....do it! IfTodd Gurley is there at 14, GRAB him.

Miller looked a little better catching passes out of the backfield later in the year but he is not a natural receiver. I also would not define him as a "scat" back. He has the build for it and is fast but he is just not an elusive type guy.

We definitely have a need for a more physical running back with some shiftiness to him.

The only person I have seen having Amari Cooper fall out of the top 10 is Charlie Casserly in his latest senile rant.

No way would I take Gurley (at 14) who will start the season on the PUP list...at a minimum, barring setbacks. Some teams can afford that luxury. We are not one of them. We need immediate help with pick 14. Teams in the bottom of first round can get away with that.

You all seem to know what the management is going to do....You are just wondering remember?

JoeFootball Wrote:
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> Miller looked a little better catching passes out
> of the backfield later in the year but he is not a
> natural receiver.

RESPONSE: The issue is not his catching ability. The question is given the pass rush forcing Tanny to either hurry the throw or complete it in such a manner that the tacklers are already on Miller, whether his talents in open field running can be fully taken advantage of.

I also would not define him as a
> "scat" back. He has the build for it and is fast
> but he is just not an elusive type guy.

RESPONSE: I disagree. I think that for the reasons pointed out above, he is not getting the yardage he would get given a different offensive blocking component.

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> quote: " I also would not define him as a "scat"
> back. He has the build for it and is fast but he
> is just not an elusive type guy. "
>
> Also we have had Lamar returning kickoffs and
> punts on occasion. Isn't it weird to have a guy
> do that if he is not in any sense of the word,
> "elusive"?

Yes. It is weird and probably why he has had exactly ZERO returns.

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UNIVERSITY of Miami....not in the NFL. We are talking pros here not amateur.

I pass.......try and get another receiver........

If the big 3 are gone and Hickenbaum is dead set on taking a WR at 14, I'd rather take Jaelen Strong over DGB just because of the character concerns........I'm warming up to the idea of taking the best CB if all else fails.

Holic....I think the d got better passrush this year....I agree we need
another starter opposite grimes but i rather we get it in free agency...


Cant win if you can score...Need to give tannehill more weapons..

Even if we get clay back...Joe.

I we pass up on any of the 3 best receivers in this draft id be really p!$$ed.

Supposedly Sam, there is quality WR's available in the 2nd/3rd round this year, it's not a matter of just grabbing one early, it's grabbing the right one early.

My favorite cb in this draft is Kevin Johnson from wake forest and I think he's a major reach at #14.

I think Shaw from usc and Peters from Washington have more talent. But neither of them is on my 1st round board. Too much baggage/risk.

I need an impact/cornerstone player at 14. If white, Cooper and Parker are gone I look at Shelton or brown at dt as value picks.

If they are gone I look to trade down 4-6 picks and get back a 3rd rounder.

Then I'm looking at Gurley, cam Erving, alvin Dupree or a tier 2 wr like strong.

I don't take a DB in either case.

samsam3738 Wrote:
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> Holic....I think the d got better passrush this
> year....I agree we need
> another starter opposite grimes but i rather we
> get it in free agency...
>

So who and where is this mystery FREE AGENT cornerback?

JoeFootball Wrote:
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> samsam3738 Wrote:
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> > Holic....I think the d got better passrush this
> > year....I agree we need
> > another starter opposite grimes but i rather we
> > get it in free agency...
> >
>
> So who and where is this mystery FREE AGENT
> cornerback?


Dont know but whoever we put opposite of grimes has a better chance of doing better than anybody we had there last year because the pass rush is going to be insane.


The truth mentions danny shelton.....imagine sug and shelton playing along side each other...Nasty.

Cant wait to see brady on his back then get up and start crying like a bytch to the refs.


Thats the biggest pussy player in the NFL.

samsam3738 Wrote:
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> Holic....I think the d got better passrush this
> year....I agree we need
> another starter opposite grimes but i rather we
> get it in free agency...
>
>
> Cant win if you can score...Need to give tannehill
> more weapons..
>
> Even if we get clay back...Joe.
>
> I we pass up on any of the 3 best receivers in
> this draft id be really p!$$ed.

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Miami won't have the opportunity to pass up the best three receivers in the draft, Sam. Two of the best will (probably) be gone by pick 14. Miami MAY have a shot at the third best.

samsam3738 Wrote:
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> JoeFootball Wrote:
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> > samsam3738 Wrote:
> >
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>
> > -----
> > > Holic....I think the d got better passrush
> this
> > > year....I agree we need
> > > another starter opposite grimes but i rather
> we
> > > get it in free agency...
> > >
> >
> > So who and where is this mystery FREE AGENT
> > cornerback?
>
>
> Dont know but whoever we put opposite of grimes
> has a better chance of doing better than anybody
> we had there last year because the pass rush is
> going to be insane.
>

Pass rush can be negated by quick passing. See NE Patriots.

JoeFootball Wrote:
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> samsam3738 Wrote:
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> > JoeFootball Wrote:
> >
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>
> > -----
> > > samsam3738 Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Holic....I think the d got better passrush
> > this
> > > > year....I agree we need
> > > > another starter opposite grimes but i
> rather
> > we
> > > > get it in free agency...
> > > >
> > >
> > > So who and where is this mystery FREE AGENT
> > > cornerback?
> >
> >
> > Dont know but whoever we put opposite of grimes
> > has a better chance of doing better than
> anybody
> > we had there last year because the pass rush is
> > going to be insane.
> >
>
> Pass rush can be negated by quick passing. See NE
> Patriots.


I Will take short passing.....as opposed to having the whole day to throw the rock and connecting on 25 yard plays over and over.


They might not have too much time with suh and wake rushing the passer.........

Looks like Gurley is rising. Heard on PTD that he may be ready for training camp. That would me amazing. I'm guessing he could go as high as 8 to the Falcons, 9 to NYG, 11 to Vikings or 14 to Miami.

I also see Bud Dupree sneaking up in the top 14. All these risers push even more talent to us at 14.