JoeFootball Wrote:
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> I am coming around to Jaelen Strong at 14 if White
> and Cooper are gone.
>
> who on tape looks at his best catching jump balls
> and back-shoulder throws
>
> That's what we need to replace Hartline, IMO...and
> we would get it from a guy who has a 42" vertical
> and 4.4 speed at 6'2 220. (he's got almost 40 lbs
> of muscle on Hartline)
>
> Keep Wallace for one more year and put those two
> with the best slot guy in the league and we are
> good. Resign Clay.
>
> He also comes with high marks for his work ethic
> and dependability. Dependable and the hardest
> worker on the team, according to the Arizona State
> coaching staff. Durable body type and battles
> through injuries. Productive two years at the FBS
> level with a combined 157 catches

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Hope he isn't too muscle bound. Remember David Boston?

Who wants to be like that mustle guy?

They say people who use steroids have their private parts looking like a really small pencil.

Imagine her surprise.

I rather be a regular guy and have the old lady climbing up the walls. SPIDERMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Charles Davis has us taking Andrus Peat and moving James to LG.

Strong is great at 50/50 balls, which I define as poor throws (low or away) or blanketed throws. His long speed and 50/50 ability make him a good deep threat as well. He is good but not great at slants. His quickness/hips is an issue. This leads to him poorly coming in and out of breaks, so he is not an ideal option for comebacks, or any quick routes, but his quick hands make up for that a bit.

sorry, not drafting anyone with a nipple ring

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Who the heck has a nipple ring? (and who cares? Lol)

I have some questions for you guys....

What would you guys think if we drafted a DT like Brown or Shelton after we signed Suh?

Would you trade up a few spots if it only cost a 3rd round pick and we could land Kevin White or Amari Cooper?

The trade value chart shows we could jump to #10 for 200 points which equals our 3rd round pick. I would do it in a heartbeat.

JoeFootball Wrote:
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> Who the heck has a nipple ring? (and who cares?
> Lol)
>
> I have some questions for you guys....
>
> What would you guys think if we drafted a DT like
> Brown or Shelton after we signed Suh?
>
> Would you trade up a few spots if it only cost a
> 3rd round pick and we could land Kevin White or
> Amari Cooper?
>
> The trade value chart shows we could jump to #10
> for 200 points which equals our 3rd round pick. I
> would do it in a heartbeat.

see the pic posted in this thread

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That's an old pic of David Boston berk, not Jaelen Strong

Why would anybody pierce a nipple or the tongue?

WTF is that?

samsam3738 Wrote:
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> that guy with the ring is probably either
> incognito or martins SPOT when they doing
> weightZZZZZ....


nah, he looks like he spots them in the sauna

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LOL....

Well, none of the top 13 teams in the draft have signed a top WR except the Jets (6) but now the bears (7) are in the market so it's still status quo. The Rams are expected to re-sign Kenny Britt but still need a #1 guy to go with Nick Foles.

That still leaves Jax, Oak, Ten, STL, Min & Cle with needs for a #1 WR.

We have little (to no) shot at Cooper, Parker or White.

Tannenbaum said today it will definitely be BPA so they could end up with an OT, DT or CB unless a top DE falls (not likely).

I don't think it will be Jaelen Strong. Probably another 2nd round WR like Agholor, Perrimen or Devin Smith

1st round options...

Trae Waynes, Malcomb Brown, Dan Shelton, La'el Collins, Brandon Scherff, Bud Dupree, Melvin Gordan

JoeFootball Wrote:
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> Well, none of the top 13 teams in the draft have
> signed a top WR except the Jets (6) but now the
> bears (7) are in the market so it's still status
> quo. The Rams are expected to re-sign Kenny Britt
> but still need a #1 guy to go with Nick Foles.
>
> That still leaves Jax, Oak, Ten, STL, Min & Cle
> with needs for a #1 WR.
>
> We have little (to no) shot at Cooper, Parker or
> White.
>
> Tannenbaum said today it will definitely be BPA so
> they could end up with an OT, DT or CB unless a
> top DE falls (not likely).
>
> I don't think it will be Jaelen Strong. Probably
> another 2nd round WR like Agholor, Perrimen or
> Devin Smith
>
> 1st round options...
>
> Trae Waynes, Malcomb Brown, Dan Shelton, La'el
> Collins, Brandon Scherff, Bud Dupree, Melvin
> Gordan

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From what I have been reading/hearing, Waynes, Shelton, and Scherff will be gone by pick 14.

I like what Tannebaum says, pick the best player available AT A POSITION OF NEED.

Don't settle for the 5th best wide receiver if the top 4 have already gone.

(of course, recognizing the draft is a crap shoot and Tom Brady went in the 6th round).

Go to your second most urgent position of need and get the best player there.

Drooling for Trae Waynes...I think he is the only Corner worth his salt in this draft. If not, I'd trade down if possible and snatch up one of those late 1st rounder or early 2nd rounder WR's: DGB, Dorsett,Perryman, Strong , Smith.

The draft is so deep in WR's that makes no sense to pick one at #14.

I'm no draftnik, but I just don't get excited over a CB at all, I've been known to be wrong before, but I would love one of the top 3 WR's with J Strong inching into the picture as well.

toko34 Wrote:
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> Drooling for Trae Waynes...I think he is the only
> Corner worth his salt in this draft. If not, I'd
> trade down if possible and snatch up one of those
> late 1st rounder or early 2nd rounder WR's: DGB,
> Dorsett,Perryman, Strong , Smith.
>
> The draft is so deep in WR's that makes no sense
> to pick one at #14.


Yes I liked the video and highlight I saw of him as well.. At this point he is my first choice unless some other top stud falls to us at 14. Joe had me a little concerned when he mentioned Darqueze Dennard another MSU CB 1st rd pick 2014 who didn't contribute much at all last year for the Bengals...

And if you watch the highlights, the guys Traes Waynes was covering in those highlights are most likely not ever ever going to be NFL WR's.. SO I guess you need to take that with a grain of salt..

I did also like his run support and blitz highlights.. And his 40 at the combine was pretty impressive as well..

Bottom line if the powers that be, much smarter then me like him, I will love the pick... If not I understand their concerns...

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Nietzsche

captkoi Wrote:
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> JoeFootball Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Well, none of the top 13 teams in the draft
> have
> > signed a top WR except the Jets (6) but now the
> > bears (7) are in the market so it's still
> status
> > quo. The Rams are expected to re-sign Kenny
> Britt
> > but still need a #1 guy to go with Nick Foles.
> >
> > That still leaves Jax, Oak, Ten, STL, Min & Cle
> > with needs for a #1 WR.
> >
> > We have little (to no) shot at Cooper, Parker
> or
> > White.
> >
> > Tannenbaum said today it will definitely be BPA
> so
> > they could end up with an OT, DT or CB unless a
> > top DE falls (not likely).
> >
> > I don't think it will be Jaelen Strong.
> Probably
> > another 2nd round WR like Agholor, Perrimen or
> > Devin Smith
> >
> > 1st round options...
> >
> > Trae Waynes, Malcomb Brown, Dan Shelton, La'el
> > Collins, Brandon Scherff, Bud Dupree, Melvin
> > Gordan
>
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> ******
>
> From what I have been reading/hearing, Waynes,
> Shelton, and Scherff will be gone by pick 14.

And i have heard that.....

Leonard Williams, Jameis Winston, Marcus Mariota, Kevin White, Amari Cooper, Davante Parker, Fowler, Gregory, Beasley, Shane Ray, Dan Shelton, Trae Waynes, Brandon Sherff, La'el Collins, Andrus Peat, TJ Humphries will also be gone by 14...

but that's 17 players....

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> I like what Tannebaum says, pick the best player
> available AT A POSITION OF NEED.
>
>


when did he say that? he said BPA, not BPA at a need position, which is actually the opposite. BPA at a need position is picking for need---you're going to pick the 2d best player available at a need position?
makes no sense

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He definitely said BPA PERIOD

Over time strict BPA leads to a better team, however it takes longer to get there. Is this owner patient enough to reap the fruits of that kind of draft theory?

Doesn't seem like it--but i do personally prefer strict BPA.

Chyren explain the difference between bpa at position of need, and drafting for need? Unless you are saying someone picking for need would deliberately pick the 2d best guy at that spot?

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NOBODY and I mean nobody drafts strictly BPA.

That would be like Indy drafting Mariota in the first round when they just drafted Andrew Luck.

Nobody is spending a number 1 pick for that guy to sit on the bench for 4 years...unless they have an aging player at QB.

Most teams use a horizontal matrix and there are usually multiple players to choose from....just because you take a WR instead of a RB doesn't mean you didn't take the BPA.

2 DT's start, 3 rotate. We still have a need.