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Dumervil?
Posted by: jlyell13 ()
Date: March 11, 2013 05:40PM

Has requested release could happen tomorrow if he doesn't restructure

Any interest, or too expensive?

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Re: Dumervil?
Posted by: gofish55 ()
Date: March 12, 2013 06:11AM

I would be interested if only to stick it to my Bronco loving brother, who still insists that Denver beat Miami in the pursuit of Manning, even though I honestly believe that we did nothing more than interview him to appease the fans.

Sorry, got a little bit "ranty" there...

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Re: Dumervil?
Posted by: eesti ()
Date: March 12, 2013 06:16AM

Denver can have Manning. They will be looking for a QB again in two years and we already have one.

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Re: Dumervil?
Posted by: dolfanmark ()
Date: March 12, 2013 06:26AM

gofish55 Wrote:
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> I would be interested if only to stick it to my
> Bronco loving brother, who still insists that
> Denver beat Miami in the pursuit of Manning, even
> though I honestly believe that we did nothing more
> than interview him to appease the fans.
>
> Sorry, got a little bit "ranty" there...


Manning only agreed to interview with us because Ross had Dan Marino ask him as a favor. We were never a real contender to land him.

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Re: Dumervil?
Posted by: gofish55 ()
Date: March 12, 2013 06:32AM

I know that, but I doubt we really even wanted him to begin with, were on a youth movement, and an aging quarterback known for choking come playoff time doesn't really fit our plans.

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Re: Dumervil?
Posted by: dolfanmark ()
Date: March 12, 2013 06:37AM

gofish55 Wrote:
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> I know that, but I doubt we really even wanted him
> to begin with, were on a youth movement, and an
> aging quarterback known for choking come playoff
> time doesn't really fit our plans.


Oh, I think Ross wanted him. The man is desperate to sell some tickets!

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Re: Dumervil?
Posted by: gofish55 ()
Date: March 12, 2013 06:56AM

I cant deny that Ross wanted him for ticket sales, but I can't get myself to believe that Philbin or Ireland really wanted him, with his percieved fragility and really only 3-4 good years left in him at best.

I think that Sherman pretty much had Philbin sold on Tannehill from day 1 when he walked in, and drafting Tannehill and signing Manning would have been more or less a waste of a pick.

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Re: Dumervil?
Posted by: jlyell13 ()
Date: March 14, 2013 04:53PM

Could be relesed tomorrow if he doesn't agree to restructure

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Re: Dumervil?
Posted by: THE Truth ()
Date: March 14, 2013 04:57PM

I'd be interested if he hits the market

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Re: Dumervil?
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: March 15, 2013 10:58AM

he is staying the DEN at a reduced salary

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Re: Dumervil?
Posted by: eesti ()
Date: March 15, 2013 11:59AM

faxed up...he's a FA

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Re: Dumervil?
Posted by: jlyell13 ()
Date: March 15, 2013 12:29PM

Crazy snafu, now available

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Re: Dumervil?
Posted by: THE Truth ()
Date: March 15, 2013 12:34PM

I'd love to add him.

Can't believe Denver messed up so bad.


its one of the craziest things I've ever seen.

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Re: Dumervil?
Posted by: jlyell13 ()
Date: March 15, 2013 12:59PM

In thinking I bet his agent was stringing this out
Knowing if the deadline passed he was owed $12m. Broncos
Watching the clock and couldn't let this happen

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Re: Dumervil?
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: March 15, 2013 03:59PM

I bet the agent heard thru the grapevine dumervile could get more than the reported restructured deal and let this happen

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Re: Dumervil?
Posted by: gofish55 ()
Date: March 15, 2013 06:15PM

IMO I feel like Dumervil will inevitably end up back in denver, but should they not be able to kiss and make up, he will be chasing maximum money, and I dont want to overpay for him, as much as I would love to have him (partially for reasons listed above) I absolutely do not want to overspend.

I would rather see us shore up our CB situation a little bit first, then see what the draft brings us.

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Re: Dumervil?
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: March 16, 2013 08:11AM

supposedly he wants to play for us. not sure if he is a good fit in the 4-3 at end. anyone know? he'd get paid more than Cam Wake which could be a problem.

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Re: Dumervil?
Posted by: Hooligan2 ()
Date: March 16, 2013 08:23AM

Maybe he would agree to the same pay as Wake and then have the two of them fight over a 2 million bonus for whoever gets the most sacks.

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Re: Dumervil?
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: March 16, 2013 08:30AM

we signed for cam for about the same money as hartline got. he got a really team friendly contract. good one ireland.
amazing at the time it seemed like a lot of money. with all this talk of a "flat" cap and dried up FA market it amazing how much guys like hartline and jared cook got paid this offseason.

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Re: Dumervil?
Posted by: THE Truth ()
Date: March 16, 2013 08:45AM

berkeley223 Wrote:
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> supposedly he wants to play for us. not sure if he
> is a good fit in the 4-3 at end. anyone know? he'd
> get paid more than Cam Wake which could be a
> problem.


He'd be a GREAT fit as a 4/3 end.

He's a little short for the ideal model for the position. He's more in the Dwight Freeney mold.

Would love to have him. But not at Wake money.

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Re: Dumervil?
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: March 16, 2013 08:49AM

i'd sign him for wake $$ in a second, but the 8mm he was going to get from DEN is more than wake's $$, and no way he signs for less then the deal he was offered (which was a pay cut)

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Re: Dumervil?
Posted by: jlyell13 ()
Date: March 16, 2013 11:23AM

Dumervil and agent interested in Phins!

He likely won't get anything near $8M from anyone

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Re: Dumervil?
Posted by: jlyell13 ()
Date: March 16, 2013 01:04PM


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Re: Dumervil?
Posted by: jlyell13 ()
Date: March 16, 2013 05:01PM

I would think the Ravens or Pats need to outbid Denver, if they have the cap room

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Re: Dumervil?
Posted by: 808phan ()
Date: March 16, 2013 05:51PM

Imagine our D with Wake opposite of Dumervil plus the speedy LB signings we just made. Bye bye Brady!

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Re: Dumervil?
Posted by: dolfanmark ()
Date: March 17, 2013 04:25AM

I would find it really hard to believe that Jeff Ireland, who learned a lot from Bill Parcells, would go after a 5'11 DE.

From PFF:

In 2009, as a 3-4 OLB, Dumervil had a -0.2 overall grade, 14th overall at the position. He was a +14.6 as a pass rusher, and a -13.2 as a run defender.

In 2011, as a 4-3 DE, he had a +1.9 overall grade, 30th at the position. He was a -2.3 as a pass rusher, and a +3.2 as a run defender.

In 2012, as a 4-3 DE, he had a -4.4 overall grade, 44th at the position. He was a +3.9 as a pass rusher, and a -6.1 as a run defender.

It sure looks like the 4-3 defense has not been good for him.

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