The crop of rookie QBs playing almost every down this season is amazing. We also have a large group of QBs selected from the previous draft that are playing. The "landscape" is changing, so to speak.

In 2011 the following guys were drafted.

Carolina Panthers – Round 1(1) – Cam Newton, Auburn
Tennessee Titans – Round 1(8) – Jake Locker, Washington
Jacksonville Jaguars – Round 1(10) – Blaine Gabbert, Missouri
Minnesota Vikings – Round 1(12) – Christian Ponder, Florida State
Cincinnati Bengals – Round 2(35) – Andy Dalton, TCU
San Francisco 49ers – Round 2(36) – Colin Kaepernick, Nevada
New England Patriots – Round 3(74) – Ryan Mallett, Arkansas
Kansas City Chiefs – Round 5(135) – Ricky Stanzi, Iowa
Houston Texans – Round 5(152) – Taylor Yates, North Carolina
Chicago Bears – Round 5(160) – Nathan Enderle, Idaho
Baltimore Ravens – Round 6(180) – Tyrod Taylor, Virginia Tech
New York Jets – Round 7(208) – Greg McElroy, Alabama

Of these QBs, now in there 2nd year, Andy Dalton and Ponder have the best team records with the exception of Kaepernick who has played 3-4 full games with SF.

For 2012 NFL Draft, we have:

Andrew Luck QB Stanford 1 1(1) Indianapolis
R. Griffin III QB Baylor 1 2(2) Wash
Ryan Tannehill QB Texas A&M 1 8(8) Miami
Brandon Weeden QB Oklahoma State 1 22(22) Cleveland
Brock Osweiler QB Arizona State 2 25(57) Denver
Russell Wilson QB Wisconsin 3 12(75) Seattle
Nick Foles QB Arizona 3 25(88) Phil
Kirk Cousins QB Michigan State 4 7(102) Washington
Ryan Lindley QB San Diego State 6 15(185) Arizona
B.J. Coleman QB Chattanooga 7 36(243) Green Bay
C. Harnish QB N. Illinois 7 46(253) Indianapolis

Luck replaced Manning with the Colts and was expected to start. He was projected to be exceptional. So was RG3. Tannehill was not expected to start and would sit behind a veteran (didn't happen, as we know).

Of these rookie QBs Luck may be seeing the playoffs this year. The "suck for Luck" (tank it for Luck) project apparently worked for the Colts, and miraculously the team went from a crappy 2-14 to playoff team with Luck. The Colt fans couldn't be happier this year.

The surprise, of course, is not Weeden as some expected, but Wilson. He's making things happen and Seattle may just make the playoffs. Coming off a 58-0 win--things look good for him as their franchise QB.

Of all these QBs, this year's crop and last year's crop, who in you opinion is likely to lead their team for years to come? Any hidden talent waiting in the wings behind an aging veteran? Thoughts?

It sure looks like the top 5-6 in both year groups are likely to be around for a long time (barring injury). What do you think?



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My top 10:

1. Luck (no competition here. Luck has Indy headed for the playoffs)
2. RGIII (statistically the best, but w/l keeps him from #1 spot)
3. Wilson (huge surprise. Has looked awesome)
4. Newton (tough sophomore season, but still has talent)
5. Tannehill (has shown command of offense, accuracy, and strong arm)
6. Dalton (not quite as talented as Tanny, but has played well)
7. Ponder (helped by good running game. Still, he's winning)
8. Kaepernick (hasn't played enough to really convince me)
9. Weeden (Good statistically, but hasn't won very much)
10. Locker (inconsistent, but talented)

I only really like 5 of them but here they are. Rest are good-mediocre-poor.

Andrew Luck - as advertised
RGIII - Durability concerns.
Russell Wilson - Great Value
Tannehill - Improving
Kaerpernick - Nice pick

rest of the pack:
Newton - talented but lacks mental aspect
Dalton - good mental lacks physical
Weeden - so-so
Ponder - so-so
Osweiler- so-so

no other stand outs so far.

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Andrew Luck QB Stanford 1 1(1) Indianapolis
R. Griffin III QB Baylor 1 2(2) Wash
Russell Wilson QB Wisconsin 3 12(75) Seattle
Carolina Panthers – Round 1(1) – Cam Newton, Auburn
Cincinnati Bengals – Round 2(35) – Andy Dalton, TCU
San Francisco 49ers – Round 2(36) – Colin Kaepernick, Nevada

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Brandon Weeden QB Oklahoma State 1 22(22) Cleveland
Nick Foles QB Arizona 3 25(88) Phil
Ryan Tannehill QB Texas A&M 1 8(8) Miami

I think BNF's whole take on Tannehill going downhill because of his own natural regression was graphically demonstrated as being wrong last night in the Thursday Night Football game between Cincy and PHilly.

Nick Foles. When his team was playing to a what 13-10 lead at halftime, despite a running back fumble on their own red zone and a blocked punt in their own redzone led to those 10 points by the opposition. In that first half, Foles continued to do a fabulous job.

But in the second half, particularly the late 3rd and 4th quarter, the turnovers started getting ridiculous, one after another after another and Foles performance went down and got worse and worse.

You can't separate the success of the quarterback from the success of the rest of the team.

But I never thought "BNF" was one of those "quarterback is the only player" people.

My outloook is simple. Surround a QB with a good team and if he performs like crap, he's a bad QB.

Very little can be judged about a QB on a crappy team, unless, of course, he takes it to the SuperBowl and THEN and only then can you make a judgement, which is, of course, you've got a great QB.

But saying a QB "hit the wall" when he is playing on a crappy team is insupportable to me.

Carolina Panthers – Round 1(1) – Cam Newton, Auburn - 3
Tennessee Titans – Round 1(8) – Jake Locker, Washington - 7
Jacksonville Jaguars – Round 1(10) – Blaine Gabbert, Missouri - 11
Minnesota Vikings – Round 1(12) – Christian Ponder, Florida State - 5
Cincinnati Bengals – Round 2(35) – Andy Dalton, TCU - 2
San Francisco 49ers – Round 2(36) – Colin Kaepernick, Nevada - 4
New England Patriots – Round 3(74) – Ryan Mallett, Arkansas - 9
Kansas City Chiefs – Round 5(135) – Ricky Stanzi, Iowa - 12
Houston Texans – Round 5(152) – Taylor Yates, North Carolina - 8
Chicago Bears – Round 5(160) – Nathan Enderle, Idaho - 10
Baltimore Ravens – Round 6(180) – Tyrod Taylor, Virginia Tech - 1
New York Jets – Round 7(208) – Greg McElroy, Alabam - 6

BigNastyFish Wrote:
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> Way too early to tell...
>
> But what matters is really SIMPLE.
>
> Thill hit a brick wall in his development around
> week 8 and has NOT recovered since. Now we can all
> make the "10-thousand excuses" as to WHY his
> development stalled, but none of those lame-ass
> reasons will negate the critical fact:
>
> the vast majority of NFL wannabe coitusbacks
> cannot get past the 3 or 4 "critical barriers"
> (i.e., developmental hurdles) that separate legit
> from the non-legit.
>
> So what you're always looking for in a
> "developing" NFL rock chucker is continuous growth
> and an enhanced "game dynamic" pretty much
> week-to-week.
>
> Thill was showing that early in the season. And oh
> yea baby, a bunch of us were thinking, this kid
> has got the chops to be seriously legit!
>
> But. Clink. Clank. Clunk. The nice steady pace of
> development STOPPED dead in its tracks and was
> replaced be the dreaded "regression monster."
>
> Sing it again you sad fin fans: Que Sera Sera. The
> entire team lost focus and pretty much unraveled
> -- because that's how critical the N F L
> coitusback is in today's game. And once the team
> lost confidence in Thill the house of cards starts
> falling in -- just like it has year after bloody
> year with NO LEGIT rock chucker at the helm.
>
> Of course, Thill can still find a way to overcome
> those "developmental barriers" and forge a solid
> career in Miami. But make no mistake in your
> overall evaluation of the kid. The fact he
> stumbled so badly, and actually regressed for a
> period, is a serious cause for (shall we say)
> hedging your bet.
>
> By comparison, the really great NFL coitusbacks
> like Marino, or Peyton, or Montana etc. tend to
> have rather linear ascensions in their
> development. Certainly Marino's arc was almost
> vertical and the dude just started ripping the
> league up from day one.
>
> Luck is certainly demonstrating the developmental
> slope of a true LEGIT NFL coitusback. RGIII and
> Wilson are not too far behind. But Thill has faded
> rather badly and can no longer be considered a
> serious threat to become a "great NFL player"
> based on what he's demonstrated SO FAR.
>
> But of course. Que Sera Sera.
>
> BNF.


That is a change of tune....

What you were seeing in the first eight weeks was a mirage. There was nothing there.... Tannehill had one big game - Arizona - which he lost. You should look at what other teams have done against AZ - RT's performance will make sense. As for the rest of the games... look at Reggie's numbers for the games we've won and lost. That will tell the tale.

As a QB Tannehill has made little impact on this team. Given his inexperience in college, and lack of serious resume, none of this should be a surprise. Some will blame Tannehill's performances on the rest of the team, but I think if you surrond this guy with great talent, you still won't see much difference than today. Clearly RT is not a top flight NFL QB.

The people that don't see this yet are stuck with their delusions of hope that this team is going in the right direction. With this owner and GM, it is not.

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Miami Dolphins. Always Perfect.

Andrew Luck QB Stanford 1 1(1) Indianapolis
R. Griffin III QB Baylor 1 2(2) Wash
Russell Wilson QB Wisconsin 3 12(75) Seattle
Cincinnati Bengals – Round 2(35) – Andy Dalton, TCU
San Francisco 49ers – Round 2(36) – Colin Kaepernick, Nevada
Carolina Panthers – Round 1(1) – Cam Newton, Auburn

I would take any of those top 3 and Kaepernick is moving up quickly.

Brandon Weedon will be 30 years old next season. Not sure I would have spent a first round pick on this kid.

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dolphin Wrote:
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> Andrew Luck QB Stanford 1 1(1) Indianapolis

I don't see why Luck is living off his Stanford fame. Regardless of how he is doing, to me it's obvious that both RGIII and Russell Wilson have outplayed him.

Just saying because you rank him number 1 on your list.