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Rice - Greatest Ever?
Posted by: captkoi ()
Date: May 14, 2012 05:09PM

Over the last few years, all I have heard is jerry Rice is the greatest WR EVER! I will admit he is a great WR, but greatest ever?

I guess if one goes by stats, yeah, he is the greatest of all time.

It is the same old argument as the greatest QB ever. It is different eras and different rules. How can anyone be judged best ever?

I love Danny Boy, but is he the greatest ever? I don't put any QB in that class, but there sure are a lot of them that are in the conversation, including Dan.

Now, concerning Jerry. As I said, he is a great WR, but there is another name I would put up against him, and if he was in a different era, or had Dan throwing him the ball, HE would probably be considered the greatest WR EVER. That name? Paul Warfield.

The folks on this board who have been around awhile know who I am speaking of, and I am sure there are a lot of young Finfans and Browns fans who know the name.

The guy could catch anything thrown his way and was smooth doing it. Regrettably, he was on two Browns teams that had QBs that were mediocre and on a Fins team that had Griese, who, if lucky, threw 12 passes a game.

What do you guys think?

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Re: Rice - Greatest Ever?
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: May 14, 2012 05:18PM

He is the GOAT.

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Re: Rice - Greatest Ever?
Posted by: eesti ()
Date: May 14, 2012 05:54PM

Rice is the greatest ever and it's one of the few positions that I feel comfortable saying that about.

Wouldn't say it about QB or RB because the competition is too close.

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Re: Rice - Greatest Ever?
Posted by: Offerdahl ()
Date: May 14, 2012 06:03PM

Rice is the

GREATEST

EVER



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Re: Rice - Greatest Ever?
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: May 14, 2012 06:19PM

not even close

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Re: Rice - Greatest Ever?
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: May 14, 2012 09:42PM


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Re: Rice - Greatest Ever?
Posted by: THE Truth ()
Date: May 15, 2012 03:09AM

Cap,

Have to agree with everyone else.

Is the most physically gifted? Nope.

But I think being "great" is a combination physical gifts, intelligence, hard work and the good fortune to remain healthy.

For me, Jerry Rice is clearly the greatest player at WR I've ever seen, and as Berkley223 said...its not even close.

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Re: Rice - Greatest Ever?
Posted by: mizzou15 ()
Date: May 15, 2012 03:15AM

I give Rice all the respect but if I am picking between the two I'm not even flipping the coin I am taking Warfield. You can gladly have Rice. Put Warfield in that 49'rs O that Rice played in ........

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Re: Rice - Greatest Ever?
Posted by: THE Truth ()
Date: May 15, 2012 03:23AM


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Re: Rice - Greatest Ever?
Posted by: montequi ()
Date: May 15, 2012 04:35AM

What separates Rice from other great WRs is his competitive fire. The guy never stopped working. He played hard. He practiced hard. He worked hard EVERY off-season to improve. It's the guys that are already great but aren't satisfied and keep trying to improve that raise them to the level of best ever. Michael Jordan is another example. Rice was the Michael Jordan of WRs.

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Re: Rice - Greatest Ever?
Posted by: JC ()
Date: May 15, 2012 05:00AM


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Re: Rice - Greatest Ever?
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: May 15, 2012 05:22AM

Rice could take an 8 yard slant 70 yards for a TD better than any WR in history. His route running is widely recognized and impeccable and the best ever.

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Re: Rice - Greatest Ever?
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: May 15, 2012 05:38AM

Maybe rice is considered the best ever but it did help he played with the qb many consider the best ever as well.

They both helped each other.

PS. BTW iam a homer and consider dan marino the best ever even if he did not win a superbowl.

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Re: Rice - Greatest Ever?
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: May 15, 2012 05:41AM

I had many great days watching dan play....even close to heart attacks watching him play..

I went to a game where he threw an int against the colts in the regular season with like 2 minutes left in the 4th quarter...The colts went up by 4 i believe...

Then he comes back with a winning drive on the last drive of the game...

Close to cardiac arrest i tell you.

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Re: Rice - Greatest Ever?
Posted by: mizzou15 ()
Date: May 15, 2012 06:03AM

You can gladly have Rice.

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Re: Rice - Greatest Ever?
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: May 15, 2012 08:01AM

what do you mean facinating.......? Incoming PM....

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Re: Rice - Greatest Ever?
Posted by: eesti ()
Date: May 15, 2012 08:16AM

Wow. This just went horribly wrong.

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Re: Rice - Greatest Ever?
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: May 15, 2012 08:22AM

And i apologize to capkoi for messing up his thread.

My fault!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/15/2012 08:23AM by samsam3738.

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Re: Rice - Greatest Ever?
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: May 15, 2012 08:37AM

DONE!!!!!!!!!!

SORRY to mods once again and thank you for not kicking my butt.

Back to the phins.

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Re: Rice - Greatest Ever?
Posted by: THE Truth ()
Date: May 15, 2012 08:40AM

This is going to get ugly.

or closed/deleted.


Probably both.

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Re: Rice - Greatest Ever?
Posted by: montequi ()
Date: May 15, 2012 08:44AM

samsam3738 Wrote:
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> Maybe rice is considered the best ever but it did
> help he played with the qb many consider the best
> ever as well.
>
I, personally, think that Steve Young was overrated. I think the offensive talent and system made Young what he was. He was terrible in Tampa Bay. Meanwhile, Montana was somewhat successful when he went to KC. Montana also won a Superbowl without Rice (and with far less talent around him).

So, I feel that Rice had a lot to do with Young's success...not the other way around.

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Re: Rice - Greatest Ever?
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: May 15, 2012 08:48AM

montequi Wrote:
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> samsam3738 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Maybe rice is considered the best ever but it
> did
> > help he played with the qb many consider the
> best
> > ever as well.
> >
> I, personally, think that Steve Young was
> overrated. I think the offensive talent and
> system made Young what he was. He was terrible in
> Tampa Bay. Meanwhile, Montana was somewhat
> successful when he went to KC. Montana also won a
> Superbowl without Rice (and with far less talent
> around him).
>
> So, I feel that Rice had a lot to do with Young's
> success...not the other way around.

I consider rice one of the best wrs of alltime.

Just not the best wr of alltime.

I sometimes wonder if rice would had been as successfull as he was back then, today. With todays athletes...JMO.

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Re: Rice - Greatest Ever?
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: May 15, 2012 08:58AM

I have to take away from you the title I previously anointed you with which was SamSam, the Sensible.

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Re: Rice - Greatest Ever?
Posted by: mizzou15 ()
Date: May 15, 2012 09:25AM

nice samsam next time keep your head where it belongs

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Re: Rice - Greatest Ever?
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: May 15, 2012 09:28AM

mizzou15 Wrote:
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> nice samsam next time keep your head where it
> belongs


Cool missou.

BTW FU(K ()FF RIGHT BACK AT YOUsmileys with beer



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Re: Rice - Greatest Ever?
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: May 15, 2012 09:32AM

And let the record show i meant what i said!smiling smiley

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Re: Rice - Greatest Ever?
Posted by: DolfanKing ()
Date: May 15, 2012 08:43PM

Yes - he is the greatest WR ever. Easily. Without question.

And he always did it with class.

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Re: Rice - Greatest Ever?
Posted by: JC ()
Date: May 16, 2012 04:48AM

samsam3738 Wrote:
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> And i apologize to capkoi for messing up his
> thread.
>
> My fault!


It would be much more regarded as an apology if you didn't follow up your "apology" with multiple ADDITIONAL posts that say the same political/racial stuff CRAP all over again.

I deleted your posts that did not address the topic at hand and strayed into politics/racial territory. I THINK I got them all, there were lots.

This was a great thread about a legitimate football discussion. Please don't ruin it (again).

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Re: Rice - Greatest Ever?
Posted by: JC ()
Date: May 16, 2012 04:50AM

samsam3738 Wrote:
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> And let the record show i meant what i said!smiling smiley


"The record" is going to show you getting your butt kicked off the board if you don't stop this immediately and permanently. Please behave yourself.



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Re: Rice - Greatest Ever?
Posted by: captkoi ()
Date: May 16, 2012 11:50AM

Everyone has their opinion, but I hope you guys noticed that I didn't annoint Warfield "greatest ever." I won't do that with any position.

I don't know how you guys can do that. Like I said in my post, different era, different rules, etc. Think about it; Rice had free-run of the field, whereas Warfield had a DB's hands all over him all the way down the field, and they still couldn't stop him. Could Rice put up the big numbers if he played back then? Probably. What kind of numbers could Warfield have put up in Rice's time?

But, as I said, I can't see how anyone can be said to be "the best ever."

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