Truth,

Me, you, Dolphaholic, and a few others around here realize good moves are being made.

But the difference between me and you guys is that I realize why they are making these moves.

You guys think we are 1, 2, oe 3 players away.

I think we are starting from the ground up, and totally rebuilding.

Thats why I say we will trade down from the #8 spot.

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"When you suck long enough, you get a Hickey"

Aqua&Orange Wrote:
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> Quote:
>
> "As for the Barkely thing...that's absurd.
>
> If we were playing for Barkley we'd be dumping
> every good player on our roster."
>
>
> &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
> Really!? What is wrong with you people?
>
> Our offensive leader, Brandon Marshall? Our
> Defensive Captain, Yeremiah Bell? The most
> underrated player on our team, Kendall Langford?
>
> Listen Truth, dont for one second get me confused
> for the people on this board who are bitching,
> moaning, and complaining about the terrible
> moves.
>
> No.
>
> That is not me. I think Ireland is making the
> right moves. But, because of that, I am the *ONLY*
> one on this board who realizes what is going
> on....
>
> We are totally rebuilding.


You are overreacting.

Every team with limited cap space loses players. Doesnt mean they are rebuilding.

Yes marshall impacts the offense a bit. But lets not confuse him with Andre Johnson or Megatron. He was more trouble than he was worth and he wasn't a great fit for our new offense. We'll be drafting WR's that fit Philbin's scheme.

Bell is ancient in football terms. Its not as big a loss as you make it out to be. New staff will find its own leaders for its schemes.

And Langford? C'mon. That's our deepest position AND we kept Soliai. You can't keep everyone.

Aqua&Orange Wrote:
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> Truth,
>
> Me, you, Dolphaholic, and a few others around here
> realize good moves are being made.
>
> But the difference between me and you guys is that
> I realize why they are making these moves.
>
> You guys think we are 1, 2, oe 3 players away.
>
> I think we are starting from the ground up, and
> totally rebuilding.
>
> Thats why I say we will trade down from the #8
> spot.

A&O,

I don't disagree with that on the the whole.

I've said it a million times on this site: If you don't have a franchise QB you are always rebuilding. If you have one, you are retooling.

My disagreement with you is that we are in no worse a position talent wise than we have been in the last 12+ years. In fact, top to bottom, our roster is pretty good...except at QB.

We arent at our lowest point as a franchise...not by a long shot.

We just haven't moved forward into that upper third of the league because we haven't found a franchise guy. We missed out on the one guy that could have had that impact right away. Anybody else we bring in will be a longer term solution.

None of that was news two months ago. But somehow today the sky is falling and we are a joke becasue we don't have an immediate upgrade at QB.

Sorry, I'm just not buying that from the same national pundits that sold me on Manning to Miami as a lock.

Truth, an amazing post. Incisive, well thought out, and logical. What are you doing on this board? All kidding aside, couldn't have said it better myself.

Again, I said "nationally we are at our lowest level".

I have been a fan since I came out of the womb, I know this is not our lowest level.

I'm speaking of national perception.

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"When you suck long enough, you get a Hickey"

I think if no one shows up at a game then maybe somone will get the point. Seriously don't go to a god damn game.

Really? Might as well give second year Rookie QBs this opertunity over this bum.

Jesus I'm telling you Ace Ventura CURSED THIS TEAM.

Aqua&Orange Wrote:
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> Truth,
>
> Me, you, Dolphaholic, and a few others around here
> realize good moves are being made.
>
> But the difference between me and you guys is that
> I realize why they are making these moves.
>
> You guys think we are 1, 2, oe 3 players away.
>
> I think we are starting from the ground up, and
> totally rebuilding.
>
> Thats why I say we will trade down from the #8
> spot.

I feel honored to be in the same breath as such icons as A & O and "THE TRUTH"........but seriously folks, I don't think we're 1,2 or 3 players away A&O, I think we're rebuilding....yet again, it sucks but it's a cold hard reality. I am 100% sure we will take a QB early (either Tannehill at #8 or Wheedon in the 20's somehow).
We just brought in a vastly different offense, so what did everyone think would happen? I feel way better about this team right now then last year at this time, at least now, it seems like Philbin has a plan on offense, and Ireland is working with him to bring in his type of players. Make no mistake though, it may take a year or two to get this offense clicking (especially if we get a rookie Q, but if Philbin can show some promise, all of this negative sh.t will go away.

THE Truth Wrote:
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> Aqua&Orange Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Again, I said "nationally we are at our lowest
> > level".
> >
> > I have been a fan since I came out of the womb,
> I
> > know this is not our lowest level.
> >
> > I'm speaking of national perception.
>
>
> Re: Yeremiah Bell to be released
> Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
> Date: March 20, 2012 09:39AM
>
> But no one can deny... This franchise is at its
> lowest level in history of this organization.
>
>

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Yes, exactly. Thats what I am talking about. Nice job finding it.

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"When you suck long enough, you get a Hickey"

xynz Wrote:
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> I like this signing. Gerard is tough and he's led
> a game winning drive in a playoff game. The main
> knock on him is the number of sacks he's taken,
> from holding the ball too long.

And from not having any receivers who can actually get open.

Aqua&Orange Wrote:
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> THE Truth Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Aqua&Orange Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Again, I said "nationally we are at our
> lowest
> > > level".
> > >
> > > I have been a fan since I came out of the
> womb,
> > I
> > > know this is not our lowest level.
> > >
> > > I'm speaking of national perception.
> >
> >
> > Re: Yeremiah Bell to be released
> > Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
> > Date: March 20, 2012 09:39AM
> >
> > But no one can deny... This franchise is at its
> > lowest level in history of this organization.
> >
> >
>
> &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
> Yes, exactly. Thats what I am talking about. Nice
> job finding it.


No problem!

When are you planning on editing it to reflect you were only talking about "from a national perspective"????

FWIW

Garrard's rankings at QB the last 3 years he played from profootballfocus.com.

2010- #12
2009- #12
2008- #3, behind only Manning and Cutler

Well I assumed you knew what I was talking about since I said it over and over and over and over.

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"When you suck long enough, you get a Hickey"

dolphaholic Wrote:
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> Aqua&Orange Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Truth,
> >
> > Me, you, Dolphaholic, and a few others around
> here
> > realize good moves are being made.
> >
> > But the difference between me and you guys is
> that
> > I realize why they are making these moves.
> >
> > You guys think we are 1, 2, oe 3 players away.
> >
> > I think we are starting from the ground up, and
> > totally rebuilding.
> >
> > Thats why I say we will trade down from the #8
> > spot.
>
> I feel honored to be in the same breath as such
> icons as A & O and "THE TRUTH"........but
> seriously folks, I don't think we're 1,2 or 3
> players away A&O, I think we're rebuilding....yet
> again, it sucks but it's a cold hard reality. I am
> 100% sure we will take a QB early (either
> Tannehill at #8 or Wheedon in the 20's somehow).
> We just brought in a vastly different offense, so
> what did everyone think would happen? I feel way
> better about this team right now then last year at
> this time, at least now, it seems like Philbin has
> a plan on offense, and Ireland is working with him
> to bring in his type of players. Make no mistake
> though, it may take a year or two to get this
> offense clicking (especially if we get a rookie
> Q, but if Philbin can show some promise, all of
> this negative sh.t will go away.

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I don't think there is a single person on the planet that I agree with more on sports topics than Dolphaholic. That includes my Dad and brothers who all are Phins fans.

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"When you suck long enough, you get a Hickey"

Aqua&Orange Wrote:
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> Well I assumed you knew what I was talking about
> since I said it over and over and over and over.


When was that? I must have missed it.

Was it yesterday?

dolphaholic Wrote:
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> Aqua&Orange Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I don't think there is a single person on the
> > planet that I agree with more on sports topics
> > than Dolphaholic. That includes my Dad and
> > brothers who all are Phins fans.
>
>
> I only beat your dad because he's a Faber fan

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HahahahahHa

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"When you suck long enough, you get a Hickey"

GodAlmightyDolphinsRule Wrote:
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> I think if no one shows up at a game then maybe
> somone will get the point. Seriously don't go to a
> god damn game.
>
> Really? Might as well give second year Rookie QBs
> this opertunity over this bum.
>
> Jesus I'm telling you Ace Ventura CURSED THIS
> TEAM.


Now this sounds like Mia1. Same rhythmn.

GodAlmightyDolphinsRule Wrote:
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> I think if no one shows up at a game then maybe
> somone will get the point. Seriously don't go to a
> god damn game.
>
> Really? Might as well give second year Rookie QBs
> this opertunity over this bum.
>
> Jesus I'm telling you Ace Ventura CURSED THIS
> TEAM.

And kojack cursed you but who's counting.

Hey Andrew,

What are you doing here? You belong in Indy....LOL.

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"When you suck long enough, you get a Hickey"

in itself, gerard isn't a bad signing. if he is the promised "upgrade" at QB, it is a bad signing.
but he's certainly a better guy to have on the roster than, say, Pat Devlin

True. We can't stop there but good to have him as a transition option. Who knows maybe he can surprise?

He's never had much of a team around him

Phinjim Wrote:

>
> He's never had much of a team around him


not sure that's gonna change any time soon, unfortunately

Won't matter come opening day when Tannehill is our starter.

Tannehill gets drafted and immediately knows the system better than any player on the team.

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"When you suck long enough, you get a Hickey"

Gerrard was a good qb but never seemed to be able to make the next level. Does seem like the kind of guy you don't mind having around your young qb's. Moore n Cousins. Just stop it w/ Tannehill will ya

Ok, Mizzou...just wait until draft day.

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"When you suck long enough, you get a Hickey"

Aqua&Orange Wrote:
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> It's gonna be Moore and Gerrard. That's it. Not a
> high drafted rookie.
>
> You won't have 2 veterans and a high profile
> rookie.
>
> If we drafted Tannehill then it would be Moore and
> Tannehill or Gerrard and Tannehill. Not all 3.
>
> I'm telling you, we are tanking on purpose for
> Barkley or Wilson.

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Gerrard was brought in to back up Moore (although "officially," he is going to compete with Moore for the starter's job). Miami WILL draft a QB.

If they have strong convictions on Tannehill, that is Miami's first pick. They may have to trade up to get him as Cleveland may also be after him. And....a team further behind may make a deal and trade up for Tannehill.

If Miami wants Tannehill but is not willing to trade up, then they could stay and hope he falls to them, or....Miami could trade down and grab Tannehill if he is still there or Weeden, while picking up an extra 2nd.