the NFL destryoed the tapes....so no-one knows for sure how much the cheating contributed to the Belicheat/Brady Superbowls wins(*)

But losing in the Superbowl....again....sure makes it look like they can't win the big game without cheating.

The facts are....they routinely video taped opponents to steal info ( aka. cheated)....and they won the SB 3 times prior to being caught....and they have made it there twice since they got caught....and they lost.

All close games...but it looks more and more like the cheating gave them enough of an edge to win.

SOOOO HAPPPY to see this run coming to its end. Yeah they have draft picks...but they have had extra picks for the last five years...and I see the talent diminishing. Once Tom Terrific is done...they can use their picks looking for the next guy...and Belicheat will likely sail on...and they can start their carousel of coaches, the 3 year impatience,using draft picks on guys that don't pan out.

Also looking forward to the end of the zebra advantage where refs look the other way when Pats hold, interfere, push-off, etc.

But what I love the most? The '*' that will be attached to their Superbowls in the minds of many!

First of all, it was hard to tell who the bigger Lady was after the game. It seems Gazelle, or whatever her name, is quite sensitive about defending her bitch, oops – I mean Tommy Lady. Haha. Get a spanking all the way home!

The cheats were gifted yet again just to make it to the Stupid Bowl, and had no business having home field in the AFC let alone getting yet another critical call (i.e., the TD catch that was ruled a dropsy) and free pass to Indy. Truth is, the county is collectively sick of their classless prissy fixed flag football – but it is SO FUN to watch the Lady fall down like the pathetic athlete she is – when she gets touched by one of those nasty DL types…

We need to beat their ass next year and do our part to make sure they don’t back into another home field advantage and easy prissy invite to the dance. I’m OK with going 2-14 as long as both our wins are against the cheats and we end the Lady’s career.

I mean seriously, some bitches don’t know when their time is over…

BNF. And smiling.

I didn't think anyone out there felt quite as strongly as I do...you summed it up nicely.

I can't wait until I don't have to see that weasely face bitching at a ref because someone actually touched him.

realist Wrote:
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> I didn't think anyone out there felt quite as
> strongly as I do...you summed it up nicely.
>
> I can't wait until I don't have to see that
> weasely face bitching at a ref because someone
> actually touched him.


Oh put me right up there too. Don't forget I live amongst their Tommy-can-do-no-wrong fans.

So they are good enough to win the AFC without cheating but not the super bowl?

C'mon....

I don't see HOW you can say they actually "won" the AFC this year, or for that matter, default to the chuck and duck tuck rule et cetera.

But let's just stick to the facts - a TD was caught with possession and two feet down but...oops, no TD allowed. I mean, isn't that a tad ironic considering the cheats tainted past???

How many times during their "run" did they get EVERY CRITICAL CALL on PI, holding, too many cameras on the field, and I could go on and on... It was so predictable it was hilarious. Not.

Not to mention the scheduling every year (what a joke that is) and the way they just backed into home field and...

I forget the game, but Lady threw an INT and was wondering around the field like a crack head during the return - one of the D players bumped into Lady and he fell down go boom, and sure enough the Ref threw a flag for "not treating her like a Lady."

It's PAT-thetic.

I didn't watch a single a play of the Stupid Bowl because I have ZERO interest in the sham...

BNF.



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THE Truth Wrote:
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> So they are good enough to win the AFC without
> cheating but not the super bowl?
>
> C'mon....


OUCH. No one hates the Pats more them me but......thats a good point.

Who says they're still NOT cheating?

ya gotta get caught to have proof...

Bottom line, the cheating crap is a stain on that franchise that isn't going away. And they are collectively despised across the country for being classless cheaters et cetera.

No one made this shit up. It's fact.

And that's my opinion.

BNF.

Please never leave the board, BNF. That's for your post prior to the last one. You really should be paid by someone.

Good thread....I like it.

I also did not watch the Super Bowl. My son asked me why. I told him its because I 100% can't stand the Patriots, Brady and the crap calls they get game in and game out. Pisses me off to the level that it's unhealthy.

I ended up watching like 6 straight hours of WWI documentaries. If you have any questions on the Austro-Hungarian empire, trench warefare, or the sinking of the Lusitania, please ask away.

I always wished I was Hungarian. Their empire must have been filled with happy ladies...

So what was the final score of the war?

I dated a girl from Hungary. I was a happy lad (for awhile)

WWI final Score:
Allies 24
Bad Guys 10

The allies never actually invaded Germany. The war just ended when Germany gave up. The Kaiser never admitted defeat. Who knows what would have happened if New England had sided with Germany. Perhaps the refs would have called roughly the QB when no one is near Brady, the tuck rule, a non-existent interference call, ghost holding, etc. Ocktoberfest would have replaced Thanksgiving

LOL.

We can only be thankful the evil empire was defeated and
Germany went back to making schnitzel.

LMAO!

wow...I bet he was jealous of JT when he was Dancing with the Stars.

Well...keep in mind...they got there because Lee Evans didn't secure the ball and....

because the Patriot scoreboard operator kept the down indicator one down behind ( I call that cheating) and the kicker and ST coach didn't realize what down it was and rushed the whole thing. sure the kicker could have called a time-out...but he was probably thinking oh crap! I am a dead man. evidence that it was a deliberate Cheariot ploy? Why didn't Belicheat call a timeout to 'freeze the kicker' like he usually does? Because he wanted him to be frazzled and rushed.


Aside from that...every SB they have been in has been close. the difference between wining and losing at that level is very close. A little cheating goes a long way!

Wow, this thread has been healthy. Get out some of that bad shit stuck in there.

I don't know about you...but...even if the Patriots continue to do well because of stockpiled picks....I will be happy to see an end of the Brady era....and am so happy that I can slap that asterisk on everything he and Belicheat accomplished.

obviously I am no pats fan but come on guys, their sustained level of excellence surpasses even our own teams in the 70s and 80s. To say that this is all due to "cheating" really sounds like sour grapes to me. gotta give credit where it's due----they have been damn impressive since 2001.

I’m “impressed” in the same way when in the woods and I find a huge pile of shit that can only be Sasquatch shit, and I know there’s no way to “prove” its Sasquatch shit, but nonetheless I’m impressed.

BNF. And LOL.

PS: and how can YOU possibly compare the legacy of the Miami Dolphins, in their Glory Days, and the sustained EXCELLENCE and CLASS under the Don for 25+ years to the grimy sleaze weasel infestation of Billygoat and the Lady?

I mean…come on, some of us remember what a real football player is, and the cheats main babe ain’t NO FOOTBALL PLAYER. Maybe a great pole dancer, or a panties model, or a fabulous example of how a state-of-the-art sex change operation can turn out, but NOT A REAL FOOTBALL PLAYER.

My opinion of course. And that’s a fact!

let's see.

there was the year they were lucky to get to the SB with the tuck rule.

the year where they got in because Jay Fiedler couldn't hit a wide open WR to move the chains and kill the clock

the year of the phantom Pass interference.

The FACT that they videotaped the Steelers and the Rams

The 'allegation' that they had their DL wearing Microphones so they could pick up audibles and sync it to tape and make some 'excellent' half-time adjustments.

The FACT that they had camera-men in illegal spots to film defensive signals.

Let's not forget the NFL aiding and abetting. During their perfect regular season run? I went through each and every game. IN the last 12 games they were flagged for Offensive Holding exactly ZERO times! zero Holding penalties in 12 games! WTF?! That was the league LOVING the ratings and wanting to create a spectacle. NO DOUBT in my ind that the ref's were told to keep their flags in their pockets when it came to the Pats OL.

You know how they say that the visible part of the iceberg is only 10% of the actual iceberg?

Bill Belicheat is really good at cheating...and I doubt he got caught on 'everything'. There is a reason the NFL DESTROYED!!! all the tapes. I am completely comfortable asserting that he only got nailed for 10% of the cheating he did.

Just think how many times we were 1 FG, or 1 first down away from winning games. That's all it takes in this modern parity league. Just a little edge.

And so...with all of that in mind....I concede that they are good. That they are excellent at times....but that they also got a little help when they needed it.

The key point is - you only have to impact a FEW critical plays to alter and/or impact the games outcome. ***Most recent classic example is the TD pass ruled incomplete against the Ravens. We ALL KNOW if that situation was reversed and say Welkie caught the ball it would have been ruled a TD. End of story...

Players around the league have serious issues with the "business model" employed by the cheats and they've been vocal about it - but you can only say so much and then you're on the leagues black-ball list and big fine$ etc.

All of this is similar but WAY WORSE and a thousand times more obvious than the accusations that Shula used to get "favoritism" because he was on the rules committee. But yea, in his prime the Don did intimidate Refs and use his stature in Miami's advantage.

But the incessant garbage Billygoat has used, and Kraft's threat to pull the team out of NE (which ironically was rewarded with Lombardi trophy's and a new stadium) is atomic shit bomb by comparison.

My opinion.

BNF.



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