Familiar faces.....

QB Tyler Thigpen
TE David Martin
ILB Reggie Torbor

D Coord....Dave Wannstedt

They also have Shawn Merrimen healthy and starting at ROLB.

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wow based on that they are going to SUCK! Wanny alone is worth 8 losses

berkeley223 Wrote:
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> wow based on that they are going to SUCK! Wanny
> alone is worth 8 losses

I don't know. Wanny was a pretty decent DC in Dallas. Otherwise, I agree. Thigpen won't see the field (so, he's a non-factor) and Torbor sucks bigtime. Martin won't make a huge impact either way.

I don't think WAnny is even a good coordinator. Anyone could have coached that talent they has in DAL those seasons and they would have done well. When he was hear, I don't recall him having a scheme or an idea that made an impact--as opposed to say a Nolan, or a Capers

Wanny is a very good D Coordinator.

He sucks as a head coach. Sucks bad. One of the worst. Of all time.

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berkeley223 Wrote:
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> I don't think WAnny is even a good coordinator.
> Anyone could have coached that talent they has in
> DAL those seasons and they would have done well.
> When he was hear, I don't recall him having a
> scheme or an idea that made an impact--as opposed
> to say a Nolan, or a Capers

You're kidding, right? The defense we had under Wanny was nasty. No one could run against us, and we had one of the top secondaries in the league as well. Problem is we couldn't score points. I recall winning games 9-3...and losing them that way as well.

we had a good D under wanny, but again I don't recall anything special in terms of the schemes. maybe you're right, he's a good D coordinator, I just hate the guy so much for destroying this team for years to come that I can't see it!

Again..he had great players on defense but if you remember those years. Our defense often broke down in big games by giving up big plays.

I think it was more due to the vanilla defense that Wanny ran...or Jim Bates ran.

He will at least be running a hybrid in Buffalo. I'm no too worried though.

Merriman could be a factor if indeed healthy.

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berkeley223 Wrote:
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> I
> just hate the guy so much for destroying this team
> for years to come that I can't see it!

I'm in agreement with you on that. I'd love seeing him fall flat on his face.

eesti Wrote:
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> Again..he had great players on defense but if you
> remember those years. Our defense often broke down
> in big games by giving up big plays.
>
> I think it was more due to the vanilla defense
> that Wanny ran...or Jim Bates ran.
>
I think it was due to fatigue. Those plays usually happened in the 2nd half while we were trying to hold on to, say, a 3-point lead. I remember those days: We score enough points in the 1st half to get a lead (however little a lead it is), then the offense becomes run-run-run-punt in the 2nd half, and it was up to the defense to hold our lead. Pathetic!!

ugh I remember the end of the NE game the year we had the league's #1 rusher and top D and D player of the year in Ricky. And we totally collapsed by going into a shell. And then needing to run out the clock we had Feidler throw 2 times from deep in our territory causing us to lose in OT and miss the playoffs. Damn Wannstedt!!!

That's a good point Monty!

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berkeley223 Wrote:
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> ugh I remember the end of the NE game the year we
> had the league's #1 rusher and top D and D player
> of the year in Ricky.!

I had no idea Ricky was into Dungeons & Dragons!

yep he liked to play D and D after smoking a nice fatty

Well that certainly explains his abrupt departure from the team way back when. His character must have died/lost/whateveritis.

berkeley223 Wrote:
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> yep he liked to play D and D after smoking a nice
> fatty

3 stiffs and merriman has been injury prone for a while now....

Although martin played well for the phins for a short period of time there while he was healthy.