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This is a moderated phorum for the CIVILIZED discussion of the Miami Dolphins. In this phorum, there are rules and moderators to make sure you abide by the rules. The moderators for this phorum are JC and Colonel.
I really don't see us going after a big time RB after giving up so much for Thomas. We already have two workhorse type backs and if anything I think we sign a scat back as insurance for Sheets.
Most likely I see us spending the money on the best available fa pulling guard....and you can forget about Carl Nicks as he received rfa tender and Mankins got the franchise tag.
I also don't see us signing a FS with the up and coming players we have there. It is a good competition between Jones and Clemens.
Number one need outside of qb is pulling guard and a pass rusher. If Wake gets hurt we are screwed! JT anyone? Lol....jk...kinda
what is up with the Korey Sheets stuff? Dude I don't think the guy was even drafted and he was cut by the 49ers (I think) and we signed him off the scrap heap. Plus he's coming off a serious leg injury and hasn't done squat in the league before getting hurt. What about that resume makes you think he's anything other than training camp fodder? Now he might turn into a player, but to me that seems like wishful thinking. Reggie Bush comparisons? Way to premature for that.
Kory Sheets is our “secret” secret weapon. Just watch. You heard it here first. And just like we didn’t take a QB in this draft, we’ll find a way to muck the position up for another 10+ years.
Right not it’s safe to say My Yammie is a bad karma cake franchise and only a fancy baker like Carson Palmer can fix the recipe. But I fear laughingly and joyfully we will head into next season riding the Sloth into the trash heap and then, but only then, we will all know why Wayne Huizenga made so much money in the garbage business!
That's exactly what it is...wishfull thinking....What has Reggie Bush done? A few highlight reels...he was a flop IMO. Why else do u thing they resigned Pierre and moved back into first round for Ingrim?
Some of us are hoping Sheets can get healthy. He was clearly on his way to earning a spot on the 53 man roster last year.
He was a 4.3 guy. Why wouldn't we have a little hope that he can make a come back? It would eliminate the need to sign a fa rb.
Let me go on record as saying I hate giving up high draft picks for players....but I think we have to go get Carson Palmer. If we can do that and grab a LG like Blaylock then we are a playoff team.
Screw this mentality about tanking this season and going after Luck or the USC qb. It ain't happening. Even without those players we are an 8 to 9 win team and will be picking in the mid to lower mid rounds.
Its a losers mentality! Palmer still threw for 4000 yards and 26 tds with a 62% comp rate. The team as a whole sucked but they had no running game or offensive line.
Go get em and we are competing again...not losing 8 home games to teams we should have beaten.
1. This year they thought there wasnt a qb worthy of drafting
2. Improved the OL with a high rated OL Center which we desperately needed. Our center last year stunk so bad i dont even remember his name....Yes we had injuries and no depth..
3. We got a high rated RB. Who some say should had gone higher.
PS. Next year i can almost guarantee they will go QB. Unless henne ( which i doubt becomes another manning...I wish!!!!! )
Here is how I want us to fix the QB position (in order of preference and realism)
(1) trade for Vince Young (shouldn't cost more than a 5th round pick or less)
(2) trade for Carson Palmer, but not for more than a 3d round pick and an average player
(3) trade for Kyle Orton as long as it doesn't cost a 4th
(4) sign Bulger and hope for the best with him or Henne, and if they s*t the bed, trade up as far as we can to get the best QB we can conceivably take in the draft.
VY is a FA. And the rest is a matter out of our control...
Our record of NOT DRAFTING QB’s is absolutely atrocious and inexcusable.
Bottom line, relying on the FA market and/or trade market to provide your QB solution is a losing formula. The ONLY possibility worth consideration IMO is Carson Palmer – and dealing with Cincinnati won’t be a pleasure…
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/06/2011 05:55PM by BigNastyFish.
BigNastyFish Wrote:
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> samsam3738 Wrote: IMO they are on the right
> track...
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> 1.This year they thought there wasn’t a QB
> worthy of drafting
>
>
> OK. Hold it right there. We passed on EVERY QB
> despite the glaringly obvious fact (1) QB is the
> most important position on the field and (2) we DO
> NOT HAVE a legit NFL QB on our roster.
Well Nasty fish thats the only thing i can think of...That they thought there wasnt a qb available who fit this team for some reason...Or that other than
newton and the others who were drafted before the phins picks, there was nobody worth taking a risk. They thought they all stunk i guess.
VY is not a FA till they cut him. And they may not do that but try to get a pick out of it.
I hate trading picks for other team's QBs, but I think Palmer and Orton would actually be worth it (and VY wouldn't cost anything that valuable)---but not for Kolb who is AJ Feely Jr who will cost even more!!
Ok...this is the way I see it....after reading A Shefter and Mort A...
It sounds like out of the three teams beside us that need a qb...Sea, Az and Was....
Hasselbeck MAY return to Sea.
Kolb is prob going to AZ with McNabb as a possibility.
Was leads for the services of VY...who will be released.
Mort is almost positive Orton will be dealt.
That leaves us in a pretty good position to get a good qb because it drives down demand and price for the rest of the qbs
My top two targets would be Orton and Palmer but they will not be dealt for the mid round picks as mentioned above.
Sparano said today that "you have to know what you're getting" in regards to getting a fa qb....that describes Orton and Palmer....everyone else is a big question mark.
My preference is Palmer bc Orton didn't deal well with Marshall personally. I think Orton will be a top 10 qb as he makes the big jump but Palmer knows how to deal with diva WR's.
We will be giving up at least a 2nd for either one. Like I said the demand is down so maybe we get lucky and don't have to give up a 1st.
I say do it! We have no choice. With either one of these players we are picking no sooner than 25 anyway....and 57 for a 2nd rounder. Maybe we can even deal a DL'man to lower the pick.
berkeley223 Wrote:
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> VY is not a FA till they cut him. And they may not
> do that but try to get a pick out of it.
>
I don't want to get screwed again. Let's wait until VY is cut. No one will trade for him. Let's not fall into that trap.
well mallet had similar character questions and people around here are suicidal over the fact we didn't take him with our 2d round pick. I think spending a 5th or lower on VY is much less of a risk with similar or greater reward. Maybe a change of scenary will do him good, maybe not. But given where we are with the QB position, why not? I think he's the best option out there for this team in terms of upside and cost.
dolfanmark Wrote:
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> Kory Sheets is coming off a torn achilles. I like
> the guy, but to count on anything from him is
> pretty crazy.
montequi Wrote:
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> dolfanmark Wrote:
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> > Kory Sheets is coming off a torn achilles. I
> like
> > the guy, but to count on anything from him is
> > pretty crazy.
>
> Any chance we re-sign Patrick Cobbs?
Not if they are serious about upgrading team speed. That said, Cobbs is a favorite of the coaches, a team captain, and can do a lot of things (and all of them probably better than he runs the ball). Wouldn't be surprised to see him be the 4th RB.
We need to sign a huge fricken Dump Truck. Then run Ireland over with it. I garantee Our entire team will get instantly better at that point. Take turns peeing on him afterwards. thats completely your choice.