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What would you like to see the Phins do with Brandon Marshall

	Cut him
	Trade him for whatever we can get even if it's a late round pick
	Keep him no matter what
	Give him one more chance

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I think it is glaringly obvious that Marshall is not what the Phins need. Are we so desparate that we keep making excuses for this nut case?
Get what you can for him and move on.

Oh, absolutely if we can get a first round pick.

Again, the other side of the risk is that he goes nutso and is suspended.

I read that wrong. Not late first round but late round pick.

Its not obvious at all. Especially with no Free agency, he gets kept and given a good talking to. Remember he's a Victim here.

keep him, of course. cutting him is what a stupid team would do. oh, right.

Keep him. Berk has a point though. We've been a stupid team before.

You kiss his arse and make him a believer in your system.

Thats what you do to him, or you can tell him off, and have another Moss on your hands.

If we can get a first rounder for him im all for it. Trade his thug face....I was sick and tired of all his tantrums last year...

Is that a way to help a team?

Nope.

how could we get a 1st rounder for him? we gave up less than that. now coming off his worst season and getting stabbed (with a possible season long suspension lurking if something bad comes out), we are going to get more for him?
I think we're lucky to get the same 5th rounder NYJ got for Holmes last year (maybe THAT'S the deal we should have made). And let me say if we sell low on this guy I will be PISSED. Keep him.

But berk, you are even more right than you are giving yourself credit for. You're so right that you're wrong on your main point.

You said he faces suspension "if something bad comes out" but even if he is a total "victim" like TreasureCoast points out, that is only "for now." What about the "next time."

It's funny. If he were to have been revealed to have a drug problem, then everybody would agree that this could happen again and he could be permanently barred or suspended (at least costing us the season).

In that hypothetical, one would say, "Hey, let's ease out of this situation."

But somehow, instances of domestic violence like this are looked upon differently.

They are no different. Domestic violence is like a narcotic to the abuser. Sometimes it is also like a narcotic to the victim because somehow the old adage "for every sadist somewhere there is a masochist" often turns out to be true in cases of domestic violence.

When you answer this poll, you've got to consider that he may be as addicted to domestic violence as a drug addict is addicted to the drug. In that case, you've got to consider the possibility of a suspension based on FUTURE behavior, not just on past behavior.

And for those who equate him with Randy Moss, let me put that to rest.

First of all Randy Moss is far more talented. I was jumping up and down and wanted to kill somebody when we passed on him in the draft.

This dude has 1) great size 2) great hands and 3) great speed. He is a possession receiver who runs like a gazelle. He blows them away like Ted Ginn but he can catch the ball.

But he is an on-the-field head case and an all-around jerk as the catering incident showed.

Brandon Marshall has 1) great size and 2) great hands. That's it. Not the absolutely blazing speed of Moss, nor his breakaway ability.

EXCEPT....... he has not just on-the-field and on-the-team head case problems and being an overall jerk like Moss but he has serious off-the-field criminal behavior that can cost him getting permanently banned or suspended.

You guys don't seem to realize that!

Hey, if all he did was bounce a football off the ground or out of bounds and cost us a game here and there, I would say that given the depleted state of our team, let's keep him until some 5th rounder we draft unexpectedly turns out to be a gem.

But that's not a case.

We are playing Russian roulette with this year's lineup.

You guys are drama Queens.

He is of interest to FINS Fans as it relates to his football play.

You have no basis whatsoever in knowing whether his off field problems had anything to do with his character yet you want to throw judgemental options and questions as if you have the insight ... but you don't.

Fins have very few on field stars ... he is one of them.

You want to toss one of the few - Laughable ... get real, and off the high horse until something tangible is knolwn. Even then, focus on football play

We don't know whether beating up women has anything to do with character?

I, one of the anit-Marshall people, must protest ON BEHALF of the pro-Marshall people on this board.


They have denied that the problem may be as serious as presented, some of them have denied that character really matters to what we should do as a team about him..........but you insult them when you say that abuse of women has absolutely nothing to do with character.

It may have nothing to do with his football life (I disagree given the possibility of suspension) but it certainly has to do with character.

If you disagree, PhinJim, then all I can say is that the commissioner disagrees with you. Otherwise, he would not have the power to suspend players for off-the-field behavior.

I would say based on absolutely nothing that there is a 20% chance he is suspended for the season, 80% chance he is not suspended at all. I wouldn't cut him in light of those odds. Even if he is suspended or even jailed, I don't think we need to pay him that $$ so the cap hit (assuming there is a cap) in keeping him past a certain date is irrelevent. Given all we have invested in him in terms of 2 2d round picks, it makes no sense to cut him based on a slight chance he will be suspended or jailed over this. Keep him, since we couldn't get fair value (defined as something close to what we paid) for him.

Why don't you guy's that are spending the energy and time talking about him, instead write him a letter telling of your concerns.

Maybe your insight can help him through the dark tunnel, help him see the light, that way you can say "hey at least I tried!".

you first

Ok give me his address and I will send him a letter.

I would love to see Marshall gone, even if we don't get market value. I don't think he adds enough to this team to offset the pain in the butt that he is.

why does it seem like the instant marshalls name comes into the spotlight for any reason other than rescuing baby puppies or saving the pope everyone somes out of the woodwork wanting to cut him, trade him, or crucify him?

Theres no reason to do anything with him right now, he hasn't really done anything yet, he hasn't done much talking in the media, he's been relatively well behaved in the public, and besides a couple DOG penalties on field hes behaved pretty well there too.

How do we know that his wife ain't just a psycho bitch and been the instigator in all his domestic problems?

"It's been fun to get the reaction of visiting coaches to the color of their locker room. Most don't notice it, but those that do are in trouble. . . . When I talk to an opposing coach before a game and he mentions the pink walls, I know I've got him. I can't recall a coach who has stirred up a fuss about the color and then beat us.” Hayden Fry

Read the history on Marshall. This incident (whether he is at fault or not) is the tip of the iceberg. This is not the first woman to have major trouble with Brandon Marshall.

g_fish55 Wrote:
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> why does it seem like the instant marshalls name
> comes into the spotlight for any reason other than
> rescuing baby puppies or saving the pope everyone
> somes out of the woodwork wanting to cut him,
> trade him, or crucify him?

RESPONSE: Because last week was Easter and I'm still in the mood.

Just messing with ya, G Fish.

haha good call

"It's been fun to get the reaction of visiting coaches to the color of their locker room. Most don't notice it, but those that do are in trouble. . . . When I talk to an opposing coach before a game and he mentions the pink walls, I know I've got him. I can't recall a coach who has stirred up a fuss about the color and then beat us.” Hayden Fry