He says that "Jeff Ireland is the most competent GM we have had since Bobby Beathard".

What do you guys think about this statement?

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Was Lacanfora even alive when Bethard was here?

I would probably tend to agree (giving Ireland the benefit of the doubt on some key blunders like White and 1 QB drafted - assigning more responsibility to tuna).

But it’s not like we’ve had much in the FO since Beathard.

Ireland seems to have some perceived respect in the league and has the credentials to be good. He needs to learn from his mistakes and stop being so formulaic in evaluating players. But again, that may be tuna’s fingerprint as much as anything

disagree. I think we've had more high round busts and high cost FA busts with Ireland in a 3 year period than just about anyone else. I'd say he's better than Mueller and Saban and Speilman, but that's not saying much at all. JJ was better, Tom Heckert was better, I'd say everyone thru JJ was better

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How many of those were directly picked by Parcells, though?

He is gone.

What if Ireland's resume includes getting guys like:

Cam Wake, Devone Bess, Brian Hartline, Jake Long, Kendall Langford, Koa Misi, Vontae Davis, Sean Smith, Reshad Jones, Chris Clemons....


We dont know. But this year, we will find out. Parcells is gone, Ireland is not.

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people used to say the same thing about Speilman--"well he wanted Boldin but Wanny wanted Eddie Moore." He sucks and Ireland has proved no better. Once parcells left before the season, the moves got more and more bizarre----putting Allen on IR, cutting Grove and Thomas, cutting vet Dline help for nonnames cut from the Seahawks--that was all Ireland and each a headscratcher and bad move

The only move Ireland made that was a great one was signing Cam Wake--but honestly, that was a no-lose move, if he pans out, awesome, if not, well he's just some street FA we didn't give up anything to get

Not sure I totally agree with you, Berk.

But I respect your opinion, and I am willing to eat crow if he proves me otherwise.

Yes, he has made some mistakes, but overall draft wise, I have been very pleased (other than no Quarterback).

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I have NOT been a fan of Ireland but there is a reasonable doubt here.

Apparently this will be his time to show everyone he's up to the task.

And all the while Tony is putting books and stuff into his RangeRover.

He drives a rangerover really? EWWWWWW.

British junk lol... Jeep man, if your gonna go all out with the off-road Jeep.

Yea, I saw baby tuna riding off into the sunset in his Rover reciting something like:

"2.5 turnovers divided by pi equals 7 points + chunk yards and gotta do a garage sale..."

There engines by the way came from the GM 215 CI v8. Up till the mid 90's when they switched.

All aluminum motor, was pretty sweet by then 200 hp too, well the old's and pontiac version I think had 215? had differant heads.

Do we really know what Irelands's track record or philosophy is? until he gets a chance to run his own operation it's all speculation. Parcells has a blueprint of bigger and stronger over speed and quickness and Ireland worked under those guidelines and pursued those types of players. Is that his philosophy or will he have his own? we just don't know....I guess the question is are the dolphins willing to give him that opportunity and is he worth the risk. Answer seems to be YES!

Lets just wing it screw it go all out and blow the bank, get higher than life, F..k all night and party all day!!!!

I don't care anymore I just want a SB ring, and not like our currant situation is doing it, or is it?

my point about Ireland is, at best the jury is still out---what's he proven that he is the deal breaker to getting someone like Cowher?

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But that is my point. what has he proven to us? I am not sure. But, what has he proven to Steven Ross? Obviously enough for Ross to choose him over Cowher and Gruden (which is ultimately what he did).

We only know page 1 of this story. We dont know page 2.

What if Ireland has a presentation of all his work as a GM and it is beneficial stuff, and he can prove that most of the bad decisions were made by Parcells?

We dont know. We only have limited info.

But what we do know, is that Ross has chosen Ireland over everybody else, including Cowher and Gruden.

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I love jeff ireland personally, I can beleive that statement

You mean Land Shark....LOL.

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I agree with him but that's not the highest praise in the world.

Ireland deserves another year, IMO.