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Ross opening the checkbook for harbaugh!
Posted by: jlyell13 ()
Date: January 05, 2011 07:29PM

Fins appear to be new favorites for Harbaugh
ESPN's Adam Schefter reports that the 49ers are not willing to compete financially with the Dolphins' contract offer to Jim Harbaugh.

Schefter cautions that San Francisco is not totally out of the hunt, but the Fins' offer is believed to be in the $7-8 million range. SI's Peter King calls that number "insane," and it would make Harbaugh the richest head coach in the NFL. The Niners are reportedly "ready to move on" if Harbaugh follows the cash. As of late Wednesday, Stephen Ross' Dolphins appeared to have emerged as the favorites to land the soon-to-be-former Stanford coach.

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Re: Ross opening the checkbook for harbaugh!
Posted by: ghotirule ()
Date: January 05, 2011 07:50PM


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Re: Ross opening the checkbook for harbaugh!
Posted by: (R/J)ay ()
Date: January 05, 2011 07:50PM

I saw a list of the highest paid coaches in sports the other day and it had Belichick listed at over $10mil.

But yeah, that's a lot of money. Ross isn't playing around.

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Re: Ross opening the checkbook for harbaugh!
Posted by: 808phan ()
Date: January 05, 2011 11:41PM

Interesting - I thought it was a done deal that he's headed to San Fran. He lives 15 mins away from the Niners. But in the end, money talks eh?

I find his ability to work with QB's desirable, plus he already runs a pro offense in college.

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Re: Ross opening the checkbook for harbaugh!
Posted by: toko34 ()
Date: January 06, 2011 12:14AM

Not sure how I feel about Harbaugh yet, but I'm willing to give him a chance before I pass judgement. He's certain to have some good insight into a lot of young talent that might be available in the draft. Just a few high quality late round picks seems to make all the difference between upper echelon teams and the also rans.

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Re: Ross opening the checkbook for harbaugh!
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: January 06, 2011 02:23AM

Billicheat makes 7.5 mill according to an article I read last night.

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Re: Ross opening the checkbook for harbaugh!
Posted by: Mia1 ()
Date: January 06, 2011 04:51AM

Stupid move, why not go after Cowher for that money. The highest paid coach to a unproven college coach is just stupid, and damnit I know stupid!

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Re: Ross opening the checkbook for harbaugh!
Posted by: eesti ()
Date: January 06, 2011 05:07AM

That is a little ridiculous. Harbaugh was a QB coach for one year in the NFL before he got a HC job in college. In that one year (2003) he directed Rich Gannon to his worse season since turning into a pro bowler. He only played like 7 games but the other QB's behind him did nothing as well as Oakland won something like 4 games and Callahan was fired as HC.

I don't really care what he did in college because history shows it has no bearing on success in the NFL.

How can multi-millionaire business men be this naive and stupid? To make him the highest paid coach in the NFL??? WTH???

Sure Jim's brother has had succes in the NFL after going from DB coach to HC but he also had a very good GM who finally got lucky on a QB.

Our number one need is QB...not HC. Give Sparano a franchise QB and a decent QB coach and he is a genius again. Stupid stupid stupid...

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“I'm here" You're welcome!" - Kenny Powers

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Re: Ross opening the checkbook for harbaugh!
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: January 06, 2011 05:07AM

They did go after Cowher for that money. But, Cowher doesnt want Ireland on staff.


Cowher wants *TOTAL* control with only Ross being his boss. He wants all football decisions to go through him, not Ireland.

And at this point, Ross has picked Ireland over Gruden and Cowher, seeing as both of them have turned down the job for the same reason.

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Re: Ross opening the checkbook for harbaugh!
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: January 06, 2011 05:09AM

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"but he also had a very good GM who finally got lucky on a QB."



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This is where most people think we are at.

Most pundits feel Ireland is a really good GM and that we are gonna target a QB this draft.

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Re: Ross opening the checkbook for harbaugh!
Posted by: (R/J)ay ()
Date: January 06, 2011 05:18AM

I am very happy that Ross will not give total control to the new head coach.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/06/2011 05:18AM by (R/J)ay.

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Re: Ross opening the checkbook for harbaugh!
Posted by: Mia1 ()
Date: January 06, 2011 05:20AM

Is it worth 8 mill a year though? Also to a unproven College coach???
This move is going to make or break Ross's tenure here as a Owner.

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Re: Ross opening the checkbook for harbaugh!
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: January 06, 2011 05:25AM


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Re: Ross opening the checkbook for harbaugh!
Posted by: dolphaholic ()
Date: January 06, 2011 05:29AM

Why would we care as fans what Ross pays a HC? It doesn't go against our salary cap so it really dont affect us. The other owners should be pissed but not us fans. Also everyone keeps pointing out that college coaches don't do well coming straight to the pros, but keep in mind it has actually worked out on at least 2 occasions, JJ and Coughlin have both won a Superbowl after coming straight from college, on the other hand no Superbowl winning coach has ever moved on to another team and won a 2nd one.

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Re: Ross opening the checkbook for harbaugh!
Posted by: BigNastyFish ()
Date: January 06, 2011 05:33AM

Obviously this is a HUGE wager but there’s a correspondingly huge upside with Harbaugh.

Yea, the unproven aspect is in play but someone (Peterson?) has enough belief in Harbaugh to lay the odds.

As far as Cowher, I don’t see where he’s a legit HC/GM type based on the organization he was surrounded with in Pitts.

And Chuckie is a bright mind but not a HC/GM either IMO.

Truth is those arrangements simply don’t work.

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Re: Ross opening the checkbook for harbaugh!
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: January 06, 2011 05:34AM

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"Why would we care as fans what Ross pays a HC? It doesn't go against our salary cap so it really dont affect us."


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I totally agree, and I think it is a great and valid point to bring up.

The coaches salary has no bearing on us. Only on Ross's pocket.

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Re: Ross opening the checkbook for harbaugh!
Posted by: colonel ()
Date: January 06, 2011 05:38AM

Ahh, the rumors, the conjecture. Reminds me of Roswell, NM. winking smiley

Was that a moving van heading for Sparano's house? Or was it going to Henning's home? Hmmmm! Now there's a good rumor humor. smiling bouncing smiley

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I don't know much about Ireland (the country yes, the man, no). However, his retention, if that is true, may be because of strong management and organizational skills. Again, fans have no idea, what's really going on. I sure don't. confused smiley

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Re: Ross opening the checkbook for harbaugh!
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: January 06, 2011 05:39AM

I got a rumor....


Andrew Luck is a cocaine addict, who loves to abuse women, dogs, and children.

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Re: Ross opening the checkbook for harbaugh!
Posted by: Mia1 ()
Date: January 06, 2011 05:40AM


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Re: Ross opening the checkbook for harbaugh!
Posted by: colonel ()
Date: January 06, 2011 05:45AM

Ha! Hmmm. I heard he had bad knees, his throwing arm was highly medicated and will require foot surgery very soon. grinning smiley grinning smiley spinning smiley sticking its tongue out

Definitely a 3rd round Dolphin pick. smileys with beer

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Re: Ross opening the checkbook for harbaugh!
Posted by: GBOFinFan ()
Date: January 06, 2011 05:47AM

Harbaugh's win/loss at Stanford

Year Record
2007 4–8
2008 5–7
2009 8–5
2010 12–1

The only thing I see here is that he rode Luck's coat tails into the NFL. To award him an elite contract for that is asenine.

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Re: Ross opening the checkbook for harbaugh!
Posted by: Mia1 ()
Date: January 06, 2011 05:49AM

In the words of "GOOSE" This is not good, not good!!!! and "Iceman" Mav's in trouble, he's in a flat spin heading out to sea!

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Re: Ross opening the checkbook for harbaugh!
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: January 06, 2011 05:55AM

You said it Goose.

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Re: Ross opening the checkbook for harbaugh!
Posted by: dolphaholic ()
Date: January 06, 2011 05:57AM

GBOFinFan Wrote:
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> Harbaugh's win/loss at Stanford
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> Year Record
> 2007 4–8
> 2008 5–7
> 2009 8–5
> 2010 12–1
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> The only thing I see here is that he rode Luck's
> coat tails into the NFL. To award him an elite
> contract for that is asenine.


He also turned around San Diego college before taking the Stanford job and developed a QB there. I dont see anything that says he cant succeed at the pro level

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Re: Ross opening the checkbook for harbaugh!
Posted by: BigNastyFish ()
Date: January 06, 2011 06:10AM

Harbaugh has been on NFL vector for a while now and has definitely demonstrated core competency as a HC. He has an NFL pedigree, NFL connections, and ran an NFL styled program in college. His teams have gotten consistently BETTER and he’s developed a young QB (being an ex NFL QB is a good thing I’d suspect).

If you watched the Stanford game you had to be IMPRESSED with his team preparation and game-plan. They made VT look very poorly coached.

Now here’s the hype. Is he the next JJ coming from The U to big D?

Will Ireland and Harbaugh create an NFL dynasty together?

Will Sparano finally buy that pizza place in West Haven?

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Re: Ross opening the checkbook for harbaugh!
Posted by: Phinsfan2 ()
Date: January 06, 2011 06:41AM


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Re: ALL THINGS HARBAUGH
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: January 06, 2011 06:46AM

Exactly right, Phinsfan.

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Re: ALL THINGS HARBAUGH
Posted by: BigNastyFish ()
Date: January 06, 2011 06:57AM

Seriously. For dudes like us 2mil is not a lot of skin.

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Re: ALL THINGS HARBAUGH
Posted by: dolphaholic ()
Date: January 06, 2011 07:06AM

mortreport Filed to ESPN: Some Dolphins coaches have been packing boxes this morning. Not Sparano yet.

Might be a telling sign

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Date: January 06, 2011 07:09AM


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