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This is a moderated phorum for the CIVILIZED discussion of the Miami Dolphins. In this phorum, there are rules and moderators to make sure you abide by the rules. The moderators for this phorum are JC and Colonel.
Name College Note
1 Jared Odrick Penn State/ Bust and inujured
2 Koa Misi Utah /ok
3 John Jerry Ole Miss /bust got beat out by pat McQuistan
4 A.J. Edds Iowa /injured possible bust
5 Nolan Carroll Maryland /ok special teams player
5 Reshad Jones Georgia /ok special teams player
7 Chris McCoy Middle Tennessee /bust and gone
7 Austin Spitler Ohio State / ok
2009
Rnd Name College Note
1 Vontae Davis Illinois /great player
2 Pat White West Virginia / bust and gone, high pick
2 Sean Smith Utah / average can,t catch a ball to save his life
3 Patrick Turner Southern Cal / bust wasted draft pick gone
4 Brian Hartline Ohio State / below average player drops alot of balls
5 John Nalbone Monmouth (NJ) / bust wasted draft pick gone
5 Chris Clemons Clemson / surprise player maybe good
6 Andrew Gardner Georgia Tech/ bust wasted draft pick gone
7 J.D. Folsom Weber State /bust wasted draft pick gone
2008
Rnd Name College Note
1 Jake Long Michigan /probowl player great pick/no brainer pick
2 Phillip Merling Clemson /bust wasted draft pick
2 Chad Henne Michigan / bust wasted draft pick
3 Kendall Langford Hampton /great player/no brainer pick / played in same system in college
4 Shawn Murphy Utah State /bust wasted draft pick gone
6 Jalen Parmele Toledo /bust wasted draft pick gone
6 Donald Thomas Connecticut /bust wasted draft pick gone
6 Lex Hilliard Montana /don't know yet, want let player play
7 Lionel Dotson Arizona /bust wasted draft pick gone
These drafts are no better than wanny's drafts and i hated wanny.
Davone bess great free agent pick up
most of the starters on offense and defense are made up of
free agents, dallas cowboys rejects and about 6 of there draft
picks.
only one draft pick from this regime on offense starting.
that would be jake long.O yea John jerry when he is
not getting beat out by Pat mcquistan.
11 guys starting on Offense and only two draft picks of theirs
starting, that is pathetic.
He has the ablilty and has been given a chance, yet has failed. What do you call that? The guy has been here 3yrs and has never broken the starting line up. Yea, he may have the ability but all i have ever seen
from him was laziness. My definition of laziness is bust.
hey dolphaholic I don't need to be educated on a 7th round pick being a bust , i already no the difference, i was just making a stated. It's awful funny that you didn't point out any of the other picks that were clearly bust picks.
Aqua&Orange Wrote:
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> Odrick is not a bust, the dude got injured.
And he showed a spark when he played in presseason. I would like to see him an entire season healthy. I think he can contribute big time.
IMO if he can come back next year and play like i think he can, we will have one of the best DLs in the NFL.
We already do withpout him. Soliai has take his game to the next level he a above run stuffer. The wake is a beast rushing the passer....Randy starks is solid and so is lankford. Misi coming along just great.
We just need another pass rushing specialist LB from the other side and were set on D.
And who can forget darnsbi...Quietly a pro bowl player.
Both the 2009 & 2010 drafts can't be truly evaluated yet and it's just foolish to try. The 3 bad early picks from this regime is obviously White, Turner and Henne (and it could be argued with better coaching Henne would of panned out, but that's neither here nor there, he's a bust). If you follow Phinsfan2's research at the top of the page, you will see for every position the "bust"rate is right 50% and thats just the 1st round let alone taking it all the way to the 7th. This regime is probably right around slightly above average so far in the draft, no better, no worse.
dolphaholic Wrote:
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> samsam3738 Wrote:
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> > > Both the 2009 & 2010 drafts can't be truly
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> > I think its safe to say pat white is a bust.
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> And I said that?
dolfan-matt Wrote:
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> Name College Note
> 1 Jared Odrick Penn State/ Bust and inujured
NOT a bust. He's injured right now. He was a beast when he played.
> 2 Koa Misi Utah /ok
Starter
> 3 John Jerry Ole Miss /bust got beat out by pat
> McQuistan
Give him another year. O-Linemen don't always blossom as rookies.
> 4 A.J. Edds Iowa /injured possible bust
He looked good until he got hurt. Too early to say.
> 5 Nolan Carroll Maryland /ok special teams
> player
He's been playing the nickel. For a rookie with only a few games under his belt he's done pretty well.
> 5 Reshad Jones Georgia /ok special teams player
He looked great when he got a chance to play. This kid is a future starter.
>
> 2009
> Rnd Name College Note
> 2 Sean Smith Utah / average can,t catch a ball to
> save his life
Outstanding CB. Catching isn't a pre-requisite of playing CB. It's likely he didn't practice catching much in college. He just needs to work on it.
> 4 Brian Hartline Ohio State / below average
> player drops alot of balls
Starter
> 5 Chris Clemons Clemson / surprise player maybe
> good
Starter
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> 2008
> Rnd Name College Note
> 2 Phillip Merling Clemson /bust wasted draft pick
NOT a bust. Playing well.
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> 2 Chad Henne Michigan / bust wasted draft pick
Could still be a serviceable backup.
> 3 Kendall Langford Hampton /great player/no
> brainer pick / played in same system in college
Starter
> 6 Donald Thomas Connecticut /bust wasted draft
> pick gone
This guy shouldn't have been cut. He'd still be on our team if they'd kept him.
> 6 Lex Hilliard Montana /don't know yet, want let
> player play
Decent backup.
As for the rest. I'm not sure how you can classify a 7th rounder a wasted pick. How many 7th rounders EVER make a team?