Don't be surprised if Tebow's talents end up in South Beach sometime before the start of next season.
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This is a moderated phorum for the CIVILIZED discussion of the Miami Dolphins. In this phorum, there are rules and moderators to make sure you abide by the rules. The moderators for this phorum are JC and Colonel.
Fin fan24 Wrote:
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> > Can't be worse than Henne.
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> You are joking right!
No, I'm not. Did you see the Browns game on Sunday?
(R/J)ay Wrote:
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> > > Can't be worse than Henne.
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> > You are joking right!
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> No, I'm not. Did you see the Browns game on
> Sunday?
Yes have you ever seen Tebow play. Guy was a great college QB in the spread option offense. He is not a pro style QB.
Aqua&Orange Wrote:
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> No disrespect at all towards Tebow, but I am sure
> that no player on our team wants a circumcision,
> so I see no need for him coming here.
Wow, Tebow is a Rabbi *AND* all the Dolphins have their foreskins intact? I guess I'm not reading all the same news articles that you are.
Mia1 Wrote:
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> Yeahhh!!!! Tebow Tebow Tebow!!!
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> The man is a winner winner chicken dinner!!!! Has more passion, and
> heart than Henne will ever see, let alone have.
Oh God...WHAT??? I say he's more "chicken dinner" than "winner winner". Sure, he has heart, but so did Doug Flutie. Tebow will never be any better than that.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/08/2010 08:34AM by montequi.
Mia1 Wrote:
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> Yeahhh!!!! Tebow Tebow Tebow!!!
>
> The man is a winner winner chicken dinner!!!! Has
> more passion, and heart than Henne will ever see,
> let alone have.
For once we agree. But I'm not sure it's what Miami needs.
I really think we forget the QB for now and go for big upgrade in the OL.
Yeah you know so much, are you the next prophet or somthing SamSam, because Vick is a little bit faster version of Tebow, and he got tore up by Ray Lewis, and such.
Samsam, I think you and others are wrong about Tebow. He has an accurate and good arm. I see another Big Ben in the making. What he must improve on is his release.
That is exactly what he has been working on this whole season. That is the biggest reason he has not played. Although Orton has a lot to do with it.
No one knows about Tebow. And I mean NO ONE. We have not seen him play at the NFL level except for a few plays that mean nothing.
Put him in the right system with the right coach and he just might become another Big Ben.
Why do I say this? Because he is smart, dedicated, very competitive, and will do anything to win. And I don't think he carries a knife with him.
Leon In Denver Wrote:
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> No one knows about Tebow. And I mean NO ONE. We
> have not seen him play at the NFL level except for
> a few plays that mean nothing.
>
> Put him in the right system with the right coach
> and he just might become another Big Ben.
>
There you go! Right "system", right coach. Tebow will only be successful as a system QB. Ask him to improvise and he'll fall flat on his face. He can't just run up the gut like he did in college. Tebow is NOT Big Ben. Sure Pitt has good players around BB, but look at Pitt's last Superbowl. BB proved that, even under pressure, even when he has to improvise, he can complete the play. I don't see Tebow doing that. I just don't.
montequi Wrote:
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> Leon In Denver Wrote:
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> > No one knows about Tebow. And I mean NO ONE. We
> > have not seen him play at the NFL level except
> for
> > a few plays that mean nothing.
> >
> > Put him in the right system with the right
> coach
> > and he just might become another Big Ben.
> >
> There you go! Right "system", right coach. Tebow
> will only be successful as a system QB. Ask him
> to improvise and he'll fall flat on his face. He
> can't just run up the gut like he did in college.
> Tebow is NOT Big Ben. Sure Pitt has good players
> around BB, but look at Pitt's last Superbowl. BB
> proved that, even under pressure, even when he has
> to improvise, he can complete the play. I don't
> see Tebow doing that. I just don't.
Can't improvise? That's what he did in college. System QB? Yup, just like darn near every QB out there.
Don't see Tebow doing that? My point exactly. You can't tell what kind of NFL player a QB will be until he plays in the NFL. Brady is a good example of this. How many teams passed him by?
Now don't get flustered I'm not compairing Tebow to Brady.
Point is, this "knock" on Tebow is unjustified and only opinion at this stage.
Leon In Denver Wrote:
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> Put him in the right system with the right coach
> and he just might become another Big Ben.
I seriously doubt he will become anything like ben....But i respect your opinion.....We will see how it develops.
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> Why do I say this? Because he is smart, dedicated,
> very competitive, and will do anything to win. And
> I don't think he carries a knife with him.
I have nothing against the kid. As a matter of fact i wish him the best. Simply im stating my opinion from what ive seen.
Ive seen it way too many times a QB that could scramble in college and get away with it because its a slower game or less physical game.
I dont think he can get away with it in the pros.I dont think he has the arm . Ive seen him play and he hasn't impressed me at all. All he did was that little run which he could get away in college.
Example...and i forget names.......that QB we were supossed to pick instead of ginn...brady quinn impressed the hell out of me in college........I saw a couple games...I wanted us to pick the kid just like many here.....And he has flat out Stunk in the pros..
excuse my mixed language...gotta translate for latin to english.
PS. Again i wish him the best....But to have someone post he will be the next coming of dan marino is ridiculous
Leon In Denver Wrote:
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> > > No one knows about Tebow. And I mean NO ONE.
> We
> > > have not seen him play at the NFL level
> except
> > for
> > > a few plays that mean nothing.
> > >
> > > Put him in the right system with the right
> > coach
> > > and he just might become another Big Ben.
> > >
> > There you go! Right "system", right coach.
> Tebow
> > will only be successful as a system QB. Ask
> him
> > to improvise and he'll fall flat on his face.
> He
> > can't just run up the gut like he did in
> college.
> > Tebow is NOT Big Ben. Sure Pitt has good
> players
> > around BB, but look at Pitt's last Superbowl.
> BB
> > proved that, even under pressure, even when he
> has
> > to improvise, he can complete the play. I
> don't
> > see Tebow doing that. I just don't.
>
> Can't improvise? That's what he did in college.
> System QB? Yup, just like darn near every QB out
> there.
Tebow's way of improvising in college was to run straight ahead. That just won't cut it in the NFL. If he can't bail the team out with a clutch pass, he can't play in the NFL.
(R/J)ay Wrote:
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> McDaniels was a terrible head coach, but he
> clearly knows a thing or two about coaching
> quarterbacks. Look at what he did with Matt
> Cassell and Kyle freaking Orton.
>
> If he liked Tebow enough to bank his long-term
> future on the guy, then I'd hesitate to dismiss
> the guy out of hand just because he had wonky
> throwing mechanics coming out of college.
He was such a great talent evaluator that he traded Peyton Hillis away. I said it earlier and I will say it again Tebow will not be a successful QB in the NFL. He was a great player in college and is a truly good person, but he is not an NFL QB.
(R/J)ay Wrote:
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> McDaniels was a terrible head coach, but he
> clearly knows a thing or two about coaching
> quarterbacks. Look at what he did with Matt
> Cassell and Kyle freaking Orton.
>
> If he liked Tebow enough to bank his long-term
> future on the guy, then I'd hesitate to dismiss
> the guy out of hand just because he had wonky
> throwing mechanics coming out of college.
This is a good point. McDaniels is getting a bad rapp about Hillis. When he traded for Hillis for Quinn, he only had Orton and Simms as QBs. Simms wasn't going to work out so the Quinn trade made sense. There was no guarrantee that Tebow would be available in the draft and he wanted a vet as backup. Not a dumb move.
The Tebow move is questionable as no one knows how he will pan out but I agree that McDaniels has proven that he can develope a QB and work with one as OC.
Fin Fan 24,
"He was such a great talent evaluator that he traded Peyton Hillis away. I said it earlier and I will say it again Tebow will not be a successful QB in the NFL. He was a great player in college and is a truly good person, but he is not an NFL QB."
Just curious, what makes you such and expert in talent evaluation?
I at least like to see a guy play before making such a definite statement.
Remember, Cassell wasn't even a starter in college. Many here said he would never make it in KC. He was a "system" QB. Well guess what?