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I'm still scratching my head over the Thigpen signing
Posted by: TheFutt ()
Date: October 01, 2009 12:54PM

For the record, I think this was a great move. Thigpen can play, no doubt, but from reading pft.com and watching NFL network, they all keep saying he was added because he is a veteran.

Yeah, I guess...

He was drafted in 2007, so he's got 1 year on Henne and 2 on White. Not exactly the "veteran presence" that everybody seems to think...

Personally, I think we brought this guy in to compete.

And that scares me.

That means the front office is not sold on Henne or White because they're bringing in another young guy.

What WOULD have made sense if they were looking to add a veteran would have been to sign Jeff Garcia, who everybody knew was being released from the Eagles this week.

Which means we would have gotten him without sending a draft pick for compensation.

So now, does this mean we have huge questions at QB? We're right where we started a year and a half ago...

What do you guys think?

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Re: I'm still scratching my head over the Thigpen signing
Posted by: Leon In Denver ()
Date: October 01, 2009 01:07PM

I think you are over thinking.

We needed a QB. Thigpen was available, he is young, not requiring a top draft choise, and yup, he will compete. If I'm calling the shots, I would make this move too as Thigpen is the best available player for a ,not to big price.

Garcia? Nope.

I don't believe it has anything to do with confidence in Henne. We just need a another good QB now.

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Re: I'm still scratching my head over the Thigpen signing
Posted by: Phinjim ()
Date: October 01, 2009 01:15PM

I think you are both right.

1. Thigpen may be a good pickup, but we're not getting a saavy experienced vet by any stretch. He won 1 of 11 games, on a crappy team.

2. My gut says it is lack of confidence in white should Henne get hurt more so than lack of confidence in Henne.

3. Hopefully Henne looks a lot better once the offense game plan gets tailored for his strengths and weaknesses.

- henne can't do squat without the rest of the team stepping up too!
- If they give him some time you may see him break open the long ball, and that would be a shot in th arm for this team.

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Re: I'm still scratching my head over the Thigpen signing
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: October 01, 2009 01:20PM

There should always be a healthy competition at every position on an NFL team. Just becasue they brought him in to "compete" doesnt mean they dont have faith in Henne.

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Re: I'm still scratching my head over the Thigpen signing
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: October 01, 2009 01:39PM

Posted by: TheFutt ()
Date: October 01, 2009 04:54PM



Personally, I think we brought this guy in to compete.

And that scares me.

That means the front office is not sold on Henne or White because they're bringing in another young guy.


I don't see it as the front office not been sold on henne. I see it as pat white been a rookie with absolutely no nfl experience now backing up henne. I mean we needed to bring in somebody just in case of injury to henne. You never know.

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Re: I'm still scratching my head over the Thigpen signing
Posted by: bigtimbo ()
Date: October 01, 2009 02:21PM

Does anyone know what Miami gave up for Thigpen?

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Re: I'm still scratching my head over the Thigpen signing
Posted by: Leon In Denver ()
Date: October 01, 2009 02:31PM

I read from someone on this site that it was a 6th or 7th round choise.

Not bad for someone that can compete, if that is true.

Anyway, I like this, we need a guy that has what he has.thumbs up

As far as White, way to early to say anything. Rookie big time, but I would like to see him tuck the ball and run or pull in down and throw. That is what he is good at now.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/01/2009 02:33PM by Leon In Denver.

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Re: I'm still scratching my head over the Thigpen signing
Posted by: dolfanmark ()
Date: October 01, 2009 03:14PM

Thigpen is competition for White at this point, not Henne. And it makes perfect sense. Pennington will still be with the team, and will still serve as Henne's veteran mentor. Thigpen is young, fits the wildcat, and had some success as a 1st year starting QB on a really bad KC team. Why waste a roster spot on an old veteran QB when you can get a 25 year old with some upside?

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Re: I'm still scratching my head over the Thigpen signing
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: October 01, 2009 03:19PM

dolfanmark Wrote:
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> Thigpen is competition for White at this point,
> not Henne. And it makes perfect sense. Pennington
> will still be with the team, and will still serve
> as Henne's veteran mentor. Thigpen is young, fits
> the wildcat, and had some success as a 1st year
> starting QB on a really bad KC team. Why waste a
> roster spot on an old veteran QB when you can get
> a 25 year old with some upside?


Thats exactly how i would put it!!!!!!

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Re: I'm still scratching my head over the Thigpen signing
Posted by: MikeO ()
Date: October 01, 2009 04:24PM

he wasn't brought in to compete.

He was brought in just incase Henne turns into John Beck. If Henne is Beck, then Miami needs a starter the last 5 or 6 games of the year and Thigpen fills that role. And Miami is then back to square 1 next offseason

That's it. Plain and simple!

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Re: I'm still scratching my head over the Thigpen signing
Posted by: ranger1 ()
Date: October 01, 2009 04:42PM

I just read that Henne is the 13th QB to play since Marino left.............hum? Like some other person said in the article maybe Henne is the curse breaker. Wouldn't that be something?

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Re: I'm still scratching my head over the Thigpen signing
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: October 01, 2009 05:36PM

Quote:

"he wasn't brought in to compete.

He was brought in just incase Henne turns into John Beck. If Henne is Beck, then Miami needs a starter the last 5 or 6 games of the year and Thigpen fills that role. And Miami is then back to square 1 next offseason

That's it. Plain and simple!"


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WRONG!!!!!!!!

This is the NFL Mike, you dont bring people in "just incase". Henne is the man, he is the starter. But Thigpen is being brought in to push Henne along as well. Thats what this league is about, thats how the football world turns.

Unless your Peyton Manning your job isnt 100% safe in the NFL.

Of all the things youve been wrong on Mike, this one tops them all.

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Re: I'm still scratching my head over the Thigpen signing
Posted by: Phinsfan2 ()
Date: October 01, 2009 05:47PM


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Re: I'm still scratching my head over the Thigpen signing
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Date: October 01, 2009 05:51PM


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Date: October 01, 2009 05:53PM


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Re: I'm still scratching my head over the Thigpen signing
Posted by: ranger1 ()
Date: October 01, 2009 06:38PM

All this talk about Beck.....where is that guy? When we got rid of him did we get anything for him? If not why not he was a second round pick......

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Re: I'm still scratching my head over the Thigpen signing
Posted by: MikeO ()
Date: October 02, 2009 12:37AM

Beck was just cut we got nothing in return

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Re: I'm still scratching my head over the Thigpen signing
Posted by: MikeO ()
Date: October 02, 2009 12:40AM

Aqua&Orange Wrote:
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> Quote:
>
> "he wasn't brought in to compete.
>
> He was brought in just incase Henne turns into
> John Beck. If Henne is Beck, then Miami needs a
> starter the last 5 or 6 games of the year and
> Thigpen fills that role. And Miami is then back to
> square 1 next offseason
>
> That's it. Plain and simple!"
>
>
> &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
> WRONG!!!!!!!!
>
> This is the NFL Mike, you dont bring people in
> "just incase". Henne is the man, he is the
> starter. But Thigpen is being brought in to push
> Henne along as well. Thats what this league is
> about, thats how the football world turns.
>
> Unless your Peyton Manning your job isnt 100% safe
> in the NFL.
>
> Of all the things youve been wrong on Mike, this
> one tops them all.

I'm not wrong. By the time Thigpen picks up and learns our offense our season will be 2/3 over!!!! He wasn't brought in to push or compete with Henne. Henne has a month or so to run the show himself. If he fails miserably, then Thigpen will finish out the year. If Henne gets hurt, Thigpen will finish out the year......thats it. Thigpen isn't going into camp to compete next year. Either its Henne or some offseason move we will make. Thigpen is just a warm body to fill a bench spot and he was the BEST warm body available. End of story

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Re: I'm still scratching my head over the Thigpen signing
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: October 02, 2009 04:35AM

I know ive contradicted myself a couple of days ago for what i said about the thigpen signing just to go against someone who shall remain nameless...But i mean this now...

Thigpen IMO has the ability to become a good player for us. From what i saw in last years game againt the chiefs. He can give teams fits.

He may not be a pro bowler but he has some ability as a QB.

I think he can be a better version of fiedler and if surrounded by good talent , can do some good things for this team.

Hopefully henne doesn't give him a chance.

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Re: I'm still scratching my head over the Thigpen signing
Posted by: ranger1 ()
Date: October 02, 2009 04:49AM

Where's Beck?

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Re: I'm still scratching my head over the Thigpen signing
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: October 02, 2009 05:01AM

ranger1 Wrote:
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> Where's Beck?


Beck's daddy cameron signed him in baltimore when we released him...and he had some kind of injury over there.

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Re: I'm still scratching my head over the Thigpen signing
Posted by: JC ()
Date: October 02, 2009 07:09AM

Put in me in the "let's not overthink this" camp.

It's very simple. We lost a QB for the season. We signed Thigpen to fill that spot. Not because Henne is inadequate. But because there was an opening on the roster. Thigpen has proven some results on the field, and he wasn't extremely costly. And that's about it.

If a reliable veteran towards the end of his career would have been available, that may have been a better signing, IF the price were right. Garcia is too extreme of an example. Hey, didn't Damon Huard get cut by the 49ers? haha.

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Re: I'm still scratching my head over the Thigpen signing
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: October 02, 2009 07:14AM

Its not the end of the story!!! You are wrong, Mike!

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Re: I'm still scratching my head over the Thigpen signing
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: October 02, 2009 07:36AM


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Re: I'm still scratching my head over the Thigpen signing
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Date: October 02, 2009 08:37AM


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Re: I'm still scratching my head over the Thigpen signing
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: October 02, 2009 09:11AM

Cut the BS ... Mike has a right to his opinion


I agree 100 Percent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But i also agree its not the END OF THE STORY and by far.....

Nobody knows how well or terrible henne is going to play and the same goes for thigpen when he learns the playbook.

They are both in their mid 20's.

Every player deserves the benefit of the doubt.

Maybe we will end this discussion when henne thows 5 td passes on sunday.

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Re: I'm still scratching my head over the Thigpen signing
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: October 02, 2009 09:19AM

You agree 100% with who?


The BS? I never said he didnt have a right to his own opinion, I just dont see how somebody can believe that Bill Parcells signs somebody to be a "warm body"!?

Listen, I think Henne is the man. He is the starter, he is who the trifecta trust, and they have all faith in him. But he still needs to be pushed. And thats what Thigpen does. Right now, Pat White does not. And thats why Thigpen was brought in. It's very simple.

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Re: I'm still scratching my head over the Thigpen signing
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: October 02, 2009 09:32AM

Aqua i agreed that everyone has the right to their opinions i was agreen with jim

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Re: I'm still scratching my head over the Thigpen signing
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: October 02, 2009 09:34AM

It wasnt a shot at you aqua!!!!!

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Re: I'm still scratching my head over the Thigpen signing
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: October 02, 2009 09:36AM

Oh I just seen what Jim said! Sorry sam! My response to Jim is next.

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