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Starting Cornerbacks
Posted by: eesti ()
Date: June 03, 2009 05:57PM

Poll
Who will start at CB opposite Will Allen?
Only registered users are allowed to vote for this poll.
31 votes were received.
Sean Smith 14
 
45%
Vontae Davis 9
 
29%
Eric Green 8
 
26%
other...who? 0
 
0%



We already know that Will Allen will be starting on the left side.

Prior to the draft I was saying that Sean Smith may be the next Nnamdi and the best CB in the draft.

Vontae Davis has all the tools but may need some refining/experience to start at this level.

The competition is down to Eric Green, Sean Smith and VD (bad initials).

Who do you think will be the starter come week one?

I am banking on Sean Smith.

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Re: Starting Cornerbacks
Date: June 03, 2009 08:12PM

i guaranteeing it to be green, miami is his fav team, and he is a solid player comming off a injury bug. but vontae and smith will be worked in alot. we should have the most dominating defense in the league, just becuase of our OLB and backfield positions. i cant wait to watch the fantasy point rack up when i take miami's offense and defesne.

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Re: Starting Cornerbacks
Posted by: montequi ()
Date: June 05, 2009 02:34AM

Week 1, Green. By Week 7, Davis.

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Re: Starting Cornerbacks
Posted by: Anonymous User ()
Date: June 05, 2009 08:23AM

One thing I do know... this list doesn't leave a lot of room for Jason "The Bust" Allen.

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Re: Starting Cornerbacks
Posted by: MikeO ()
Date: June 05, 2009 08:48AM

Eric Green will start. In a division with Moss, Owens, Evans, and even Welker there is no time for "on the job training". The VET players will see the majority of the reps and be the starters.....the kids will be nickle and dime backs

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Re: Starting Cornerbacks
Posted by: Phinsfan2 ()
Date: June 06, 2009 06:26AM


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Re: Starting Cornerbacks
Date: June 06, 2009 10:58AM

i think everyone on here underestimates green's abilities, he had injuries and a nice cb come into his career and kinda left him on the back burner, but now he is back into his home state, and i know he growing up was a miami fan AND, he is healthy, and has a great defense to help him out, not to mention when at arizona he had a GREAT cast of wr's to help mold him into a solid corner, i would however like to see him bulk up a little maybe 5 or 6 pounds of muscle.

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Re: Starting Cornerbacks
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: June 06, 2009 11:47AM

dolphinsnumberonestunner Wrote:
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> i think everyone on here underestimates green's
> abilities, he had injuries and a nice cb come into
> his career and kinda left him on the back burner,
> but now he is back into his home state, and i know
> he growing up was a miami fan AND, he is healthy,
> and has a great defense to help him out, not to
> mention when at arizona he had a GREAT cast of
> wr's to help mold him into a solid corner, i would
> however like to see him bulk up a little maybe 5
> or 6 pounds of muscle.



They just said a few days back that he gained 10 LBs of muscle.
Learn your ABCs first please before you come out and say he needs to gain 5 more pounds of muscle.

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Re: Starting Cornerbacks
Posted by: MikeO ()
Date: June 06, 2009 05:09PM

Green will be starting all season long. The guy can flat out play. The fact they brought in 2 rookies only makes Green that much more of a lock to start in my book. He will bring his "A" game and his "A" game is pretty damn good!!!!!

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Re: Starting Cornerbacks
Posted by: eesti ()
Date: June 06, 2009 09:26PM

Based on what? His 2 career interceptions? 4 years in the league and nobody knows his name.

Jason Allen 118 tackles (39.3 per year) and 5 ints in 3 years (11 starts).
Eric Green 167 tackles (41.7 per year) and 2 ints in 4 years (33 starts).

He had better pick up his 'A' game is he wants to start.

Arizona had a lousy secondary for many years. Finished 22, 28 and 30 in the last three years.

He has a couple of very talented players to fend off first.

Green...like Allen has potential but can't seem to get on the field.

I would not be surprised to see him start the season but I doubt he finishes it.

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Re: Starting Cornerbacks
Posted by: Phinjim ()
Date: June 07, 2009 02:15AM

It will likely take some time beofrre the rookies have the mental game to take the starting role

Green likely for this year ... rookies will play, also get some nickle dime work

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Re: Starting Cornerbacks
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: June 07, 2009 04:09AM

eesti Wrote:
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>
> Arizona had a lousy secondary for many years.
> Finished 22, 28 and 30 in the last three years.
>


So did the lions when goodman played for them. And he turned out pretty good for the phins.

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Re: Starting Cornerbacks
Posted by: MikeO ()
Date: June 07, 2009 04:14AM

stats for a CB can be very misleading. I mean the good ones usually have no stats cause teams avoid throwing to them. So I don't get caught up in the numbers game with that position on the football field.

The guy played on some bad teams (until last year of course) and didn't get a lot of press. He also had some injuries that hurt him from time to time. If Zona wasn't in salary cap hell, I think they would have resigned him. It isn't like they wanted him gone

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Re: Starting Cornerbacks
Posted by: eesti ()
Date: June 07, 2009 08:09AM

I agree. He may turn out to be a great player. I'm sure Ireland had a reason for taking him. That said...he has some stiff competition which is a great problem to have.

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Re: Starting Cornerbacks
Posted by: montequi ()
Date: June 07, 2009 01:51PM

A glut of good CBs is a good problem to have, but we might want to see if any of them can play OG or ILB as well drinking smiley

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Re: Starting Cornerbacks
Posted by: MikeO ()
Date: June 08, 2009 03:44AM

I still think Chris Clemons the rookie out of Clemson will be the surprise of training camp. I think he makes this team and is a starter by 2010.

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Re: Starting Cornerbacks
Posted by: DaytonaDolfan13 ()
Date: June 09, 2009 04:01AM

Depth at CB.... AHHHHHHH thats better.

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Re: Starting Cornerbacks
Posted by: MikeO ()
Date: June 09, 2009 05:22AM

its going to be interesting to see how many DB's we carry. And how many end up on the practice squad.

It's going to be interesting because Nathan Jones is a lock to make this team because of his special teams play. So how many we carry in the defensive backfield will be the thing to watch.

The ONLY locks I see as of now are....

Bell
Wilson
Will Allen
Vonte
Nathan Jones
Eric Green

Which leaves about 10 guys fighting for 2 spots or so



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 06/09/2009 05:28AM by MikeO.

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Re: Starting Cornerbacks
Posted by: montequi ()
Date: June 09, 2009 07:22AM

MikeO Wrote:
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> The ONLY locks I see as of now are....
>
> Bell
> Wilson
> Will Allen
> Vonte
> Nathan Jones
> Eric Green
>
Smith and Davis are locks. We won't cut our first or second rounders.

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Re: Starting Cornerbacks
Posted by: MikeO ()
Date: June 09, 2009 07:48AM

Davis is a lock I have that down.

We have cut 2nd round picks before. Don't think Smith will get cut but there is always the practice squad remember. I think Smith's special teams ability will keep him around as he is an all around athlete.

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Re: Starting Cornerbacks
Posted by: montequi ()
Date: June 09, 2009 08:03AM

MikeO Wrote:
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> Davis is a lock I have that down.
>
> We have cut 2nd round picks before. Don't think
> Smith will get cut but there is always the
> practice squad remember. I think Smith's special
> teams ability will keep him around as he is an all
> around athlete.

Smith will NOT be on the practice squad. He's too valuable, and he'll be exposed there to being signed by another team. He'll be on our roster. Mark my words.

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Re: Starting Cornerbacks
Date: June 09, 2009 10:26AM

green, allen starting, davis, smith reserve. period. good god common sense, Mike0 your a miracle, a tall BIG cb and solid safty like smith being cut, serious i mean i thought my crap was retarted but you take the cake, your a special kind of dumbass, worse than eric foreman.

"You were right numberone...you were right. The PATS and the 'BOYS had the same thoughts too. numberonedumbanddumber- you are a genius"Wow, another sterling prediction by the poster child for the dangers of illiteracy.So, let me get this straight. Essentially, the Dolphins traded Jason Taylor for Jason Taylor and Pat White and saved 7 million dollars. Now, I am not the greatest talent evaluator, but that sounds like a good deal to me."

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Re: Starting Cornerbacks
Posted by: MikeO ()
Date: June 09, 2009 10:58AM

i never said Smith would be cut. Find the post or thread where I said that. My god!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Starting Cornerbacks
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Date: June 09, 2009 03:28PM


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Date: June 09, 2009 04:15PM


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Date: June 09, 2009 04:37PM


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Re: Starting Cornerbacks
Posted by: Anonymous User ()
Date: June 09, 2009 05:43PM

Why does every post you write start off with "I never said..." blah, blah, blah...

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Re: Starting Cornerbacks
Posted by: MikeO ()
Date: June 09, 2009 07:25PM

why do you keep following me around from thread to thread and hijacking threads and ruining this message board???

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Re: Starting Cornerbacks
Posted by: eesti ()
Date: June 10, 2009 04:01AM

The only locks at CB are Will Allen, Vontae Davis, Sean Smith and Eric Green. Nathan Jones is no lock as he is the 6th DB.

He was not even as productive as Jason Allen last year and he got beat out for nickle back by a Strong Safety (Culver). He did have 3 sacks but you don't define yourself as a CB by sacks alone.

We could easily pick up a player off the waiver wire who could unseat any of the lower CB's.

The FO also likes big CB's and Jones is not big. He is the smallest DB on the team.

As far as value to the FO...

1 Vontae Davis
2 Will Allen
3 Sean Smith
4 Eric green
5 Jason Allen
6 Nathan Jones
7 Joey Thomas

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Re: Starting Cornerbacks
Posted by: JC ()
Date: June 10, 2009 04:21AM

dolphinsnumberonestunner Wrote:
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> your a special
> kind of ......

Heated discussions about our beloved Dolphins are okay, but let's dial back the name-calling. It's completely unnecessary.

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