So...who do you want to draft?
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This is a moderated phorum for the CIVILIZED discussion of the Miami Dolphins. In this phorum, there are rules and moderators to make sure you abide by the rules. The moderators for this phorum are JC and Colonel.
I answered by giving you an example of when we drafted the top defensive guy in the draft who ended up being a bust AND INSTEAD OF RESPONDING TO THAT EXAMPLE......YOU SIMPLY DECLARE VICTORY AND SAY...……."I THOUGHT SO..."
YOU THOUGHT WHAT??????
WHAT DID YOU WIN????
WHY ARE YOU TAKING A VICTORY LAP???
ANSWER THE QUESTION, LITTLE BABY. ANSWER THE QUESTION.
I picked a Top QB. Even though I think we have no buisness picking one. I figured since you say its a MUST to pick the next Marino.....you might have a clue who it should be. Guess not.
My very uneducated opinion (I am not a draftnik nor college football expert):
Do NOT trade up. Take the best QB available whose name is not Tua with our first pick. Herbert is my preference. If Tua is available when we're on the clock for our first pick, then trade DOWN so someone else can take the risk on him.
Then, take another QB in a later round.
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> Here I was going off topic (edited).
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> My very uneducated opinion (I am not a draftnik
> nor college football expert):
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> Do NOT trade up.
RESPONSE: Totally agree. Why trade UP from number 5?
Take the best QB available whose
> name is not Tua with our first pick. Herbert is my
> preference.
RESPONSE: I agree. Let Tua spend a couple of years healing and then let him demonstrate at workouts that he has come back completely.
With our first pick, we should pick, if available which is highly likely, Burrows, Fromm, Herbert.
If Tua is available when we're on the
> clock for our first pick, then trade DOWN so
> someone else can take the risk on him.
RESPONSE: I AGREE BUT I DOUBT there will be any takers for the purpose of drafting him specifically. They might want our number 5 to grab someone else.
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> Then, take another QB in a later round.
Here is some draft numbers for you that broke down off a website for the Kansas City Chiefs.
Of the Chiefs starters on offense here is where they were drafted:
4 in first round
2 in second
1 in third
1 in fourth
1 in fifth
1 in sixth
1 in seventh
1 not drafted
Starters on defense:
0 in first round
4 in second round
2 in third round
4 in fourth round
0 in fifth thru seventh
1 undrafted
Special teams:
i in third and 1 in seventh
Overall team80 total, probably injured and scout team included)
7 in first
12 in second
7 in third
8 in fourth
3 in fifth
7 in sixth
6 in seventh
30 undrafted
Not sure what they tell us other than draft draft offense in the first round and defense in the second
This is about Justin Herbert. He is 6'6" 237 with a cannon arm. For his career has 63.95% completions with 95 td /23 int. He will be 22 when he is drafted (FYI Josh Rosen is only 23) I looked and his skill players were average, a few of his linemen will be drafted.
I have heard he has a few footwork problems that should have been fixed in college but the coaches chose not to address them. Just read an article that says he is now jumped Burrow to the top of the QB boards according to a few sources.
What I find interesting is that he is two time academic all american. I have always stated that given any players that are close in evaluation I would go with the smart kid. (side note Calvin Throckmorton his OT is also academic all american and should be available in the later rounds)
The main negative I've heard about him is that he doesn't seem to have the "it" factor. Leadership, elevating the play of others around him, etc. That said, I've never seen him play even a full game, so it's only from what I've read online.
Im beginnig to think we already have a qb like Herbert on the roster in Rosen. Right now I would rather that we draft other positions in round one. Fromm is now the qb I would take with our second second round pick.
1 Simmons OLB
1 Jones T
1 Henderson CB
2 Swift RB
2 Fromm QB
3 Best OL available
Mizzou15.... I am just saying if we take a QB at 5 I would take Herbert over Tua
I like your mock draft...although I don't watch much college football, Fromm was the only one I saw line up under center this year, although he has tiny hands, lol
I do like Simmons a lot with the #5 pick , if he is still there. If one team jumps us to go get a QB, then with Burrow and Young going 1 and 2 .... then one of either Okudah or Simmons should be available at #5
Not sure about the QB position right now but I want to see us draft Johnathan Taylor at some point. Just the kind of runner I think will do well in the NFL.
Everyone is making alot of sense. I guess I dont feel as strong as I have in the past about our first pick becuase we have several others. I'd like to trade down , still get a QB later and more picks , but picking a QB first with opportunities further down in the 1st round to get more help is not wrong either....IF WE GET THE RIGHT GUY.
But I guess that can be said about any draft pick. The first pick just stands out more.
It's funny that I've actually also felt less strongly about, to be pretty specific, picking Tua with our first 1st round pick. Prior to his injury, I was pretty convinced he should be our guy and was fretting a bit over how wins could make it more difficult for us to get him. Even post-injury, I've mentally debated whether - if the team has a true conviction about him being "the guy" - trading up to get him makes sense.
I know that there's not a single player on the team that can make or break a team like a QB in today's NFL. I also know that in the past 20 yrs, the only SB-winning QBs picked #1 overall had the last name Manning. In fact, besides them, no SB-winning QB was picked in the top 5 or was the top QB taken in their draft year. I know that CHI moved up for Trubisky @ #2 when Watson & Mahomes were still available. I know we have Rosen, the Cards have Murray and Ravens have Jackson (drafted well after Rosen 2 yrs ago)...and I'll bet the Ravens are currently happiest with their QB situation. I know that Mayfield was sort of a dark-horse candidate to be picked #1 overall...then in his rookie season looked worthy of #1 overall...then got a crapload of talent at skill positions added...then pooped the bed in his sophomore season. Sadly, I know that our medical staff has steered us the wrong way in the past in our pursuit of the right QB.
Where I've landed is a place of relative optimism for the future. We seemingly have a good culture and head coach. That said, and this probably seems like a bit of a cop-out and/or pollyanna, but I'm hoping for Lady Luck to smile on us as she did when we picked the 6th QB taken who fell in the draft. Luck/chance/fortune favors the prepared. No one can convince me that the Pats weren't lucky to pick Brady in the 6th...or SEA Wilson in the 3rd...or NO to get Brees as a FA who wanted to play for us...or the Pack to get Rodgers, etc. Since we can't control luck, it seems best to be favored to be on the receiving end of some good luck by being prepared. Pure coincidence that St. Patrick's day is fast approaching :-)
According to SiriusXM NFLNetwork Ch.88, ChyrenB's statement is correct. To me, a damaged hip is bad enough, but if the socket is also damaged (they had a dr. on that had actually seen the x-rays) it sounds as if the problem not only could but probably will re-occur. This doesn't sound like a problem we want to have-certainly not at the price of an early 1st round pick.