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Dolphins v. Steelers, MNF game thread
Posted by: colonel ()
Date: October 28, 2019 02:26PM

Okay guys, the game is on National TV. With a group of players that must be tired of losing, perhaps all the talk of them tanking for TUA may make them super hungry for a win. Will it all come together for them tonight? The Steelers are struggling and probably are underestimating the Dolphins and expect to win easily. That could be a mistake.

All and all, I hope it's a very competitive game.

Go Dolphins!

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Re: Dolphins v. Steelers, MNF game thread
Posted by: pafinfan ()
Date: October 28, 2019 02:56PM

Got to be better then the 3-0 snoozefest in a downpour

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Re: Dolphins v. Steelers, MNF game thread
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: October 28, 2019 03:29PM

That rarely works out that way....that touchdown....I mean. Like it was drawn up in the locker room.

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Re: Dolphins v. Steelers, MNF game thread
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: October 28, 2019 03:49PM

14-0. Could it be???

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Re: Dolphins v. Steelers, MNF game thread
Posted by: SCPhinsFan ()
Date: October 28, 2019 03:51PM

They are playing well.

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Re: Dolphins v. Steelers, MNF game thread
Posted by: pafinfan ()
Date: October 28, 2019 04:42PM

Dang, Booger can babble.


3rd & 20. Crap

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Re: Dolphins v. Steelers, MNF game thread
Posted by: colonel ()
Date: October 28, 2019 04:45PM

Doing well overall, but the last defensive play with an all out blitz, was foolish mistake. TD for Steelers--that was a gimmee.

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Re: Dolphins v. Steelers, MNF game thread
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: October 28, 2019 04:49PM

3rd and 20 at nearly mid field and our defense is designed like they were inside the 5 line yard. In other words, we were playing as if a pass was the LAST thing we expected them to do

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Re: Dolphins v. Steelers, MNF game thread
Posted by: mizzou15 ()
Date: October 28, 2019 05:13PM

Not a bad game overall. Coaches are trying out some things,suppose they are learning too. More things to like than not in this one.

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Re: Dolphins v. Steelers, MNF game thread
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: October 28, 2019 05:43PM

Calm down, Brian.

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Re: Dolphins v. Steelers, MNF game thread
Posted by: 808phan ()
Date: October 28, 2019 05:43PM

At my son's house without ESPN. lol

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Re: Dolphins v. Steelers, MNF game thread
Posted by: pafinfan ()
Date: October 28, 2019 05:49PM

Drat

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Re: Dolphins v. Steelers, MNF game thread
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: October 28, 2019 06:09PM

He was down by contact.

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Re: Dolphins v. Steelers, MNF game thread
Posted by: pafinfan ()
Date: October 28, 2019 06:21PM

Why didn't Miami challenge?

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Re: Dolphins v. Steelers, MNF game thread
Posted by: colonel ()
Date: October 28, 2019 06:29PM

Well guys, the gimmee score changed momentum and the loss (again) of Howard put too many weak players on the field. What could have been our first win simply slipped away....

I will say the players are playing hard--that's a good thing, however, there's a lack of skilled players, and that's obvious.

Next game we play the Jets. I hope we can take outscore them.

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Re: Dolphins v. Steelers, MNF game thread
Posted by: pafinfan ()
Date: October 28, 2019 06:34PM

They played hard but it looks like they are a first half team. Is that a coaching issue?

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Re: Dolphins v. Steelers, MNF game thread
Date: October 28, 2019 06:49PM

Scott Van Pelt on sports Center made a good point. Miami may be 0-7 but they come out fighting every game. That speaks volumes for Flores and this Teams character. We will be that much better when we do start winning.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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Re: Dolphins v. Steelers, MNF game thread
Posted by: 808phan ()
Date: October 28, 2019 09:42PM

Bummer that Howard is injured again. They ought to just put him on IR and save him until next year. It isn't even worth having him on the field at anything less than 100% risking even more injury as this season is already down the toilet.

It sucked I wasn't able to watch the game. Win or lose this is my team. Nice to know there are some fellow die hard fans on this board who still stick around when times are tough.

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Re: Dolphins v. Steelers, MNF game thread
Posted by: mizzou15 ()
Date: October 29, 2019 02:19AM

pafinfan Wrote:
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> They played hard but it looks like they are a
> first half team. Is that a coaching issue?


I watched the game into the early 4th qtr and noticed the defense especially appeared to taper off in the 2nd half. I think it was more the adjustments that PIT made. I think the fire was rekindle by the end of the third. We are giving a lot of young dbs a chance this year so we have to live with their mistakes. One of the young corners had good coverage on a long pass reception and allowed the PIT wr to take the ball out of his hands. Wilkins appears to be doing a good job holding the run on his side. Although I think he is taking plays off. PIT gobbled up yards running on the left, gotta fixed that. Have so much respect for Jenkins/Godchaux guys are giving the 110%.

On D I like that the players are in the right spot most of the time, shows that coaches are getting the teaching part right. I do think we need upgrades at a number of positions. Players are playing hard and I respect that but if we upgraded at RG/CB/ILB WR (like Williams but he is dropping like 1 pass a game) QB (can Rosen lead men?) we will improve.

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Re: Dolphins v. Steelers, MNF game thread
Posted by: astro34 ()
Date: October 29, 2019 05:21AM

I was just thinking that .....perhaps.... the best thing that happened last night is that Howard got hurt again.... this means no one will want to trade for him and we can get him better for next year...He is a good piece to keep in place for next year and the future

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Re: Dolphins v. Steelers, MNF game thread
Posted by: mizzou15 ()
Date: October 29, 2019 05:29AM

I was just thinking maybe we go w/ Young with our first nbr1, the best cb w/ nbr1A and the best qb (Fromm?) at nbr1B. Upgrade DE/CB first. If Fromm or whoever does not look like the answer we go qb in the first rnd again in 2021.

Yeah they should put Howard on the shelf for this year.

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Posted by: astro34 ()
Date: October 29, 2019 05:51AM

I am good with Young with our first #1, depends who is available for our second #1, if Herbert or either Alabama WR falls I say pick them or best CB or OT, for the third #1 Fromm is a good option or OG/C depending who you picked second

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Re: Dolphins v. Steelers, MNF game thread
Posted by: Fins72 ()
Date: October 29, 2019 06:48AM

Young might be the right pick at #1 but is very unlikely to happen. You have Cincinnati, Miami, and Tampa Bay who will likely be picking in the top 5. All three need a Quarterback. If Miami doesn't pick their quarterback of choice, at least 2 of the top choices will be gone by their second pick. I don't think Ross is going through an 0-16 season to get an edge rusher. Just my opinion, but I think they are dead set on getting their franchise guy regardless of who the pundits think is the best overall player. The consensus is that it's Tua, but I can't imagine a scenario where Miami doesn't pick a signal caller with their #1 overall pick. Again, I'm not saying it's the right move, I'm saying that I think that's the way it's going to go.

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Re: Dolphins v. Steelers, MNF game thread
Posted by: astro34 ()
Date: October 29, 2019 07:03AM

I wish we could find a team foolish enough to make a trade like they did Ricky Williams or Hershal Walker.

I do think they will draft a QB first, just hope they do their homework before they decide on which one.

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Re: Dolphins v. Steelers, MNF game thread
Date: October 29, 2019 07:27AM

Unless they are dead set on a QB , I dont see anyone better then Rosen IMO, trade down. Re build every position possible.2021 we have 2 first rounds as well we can re visit the QB position with a much better foundation IF necessary. You dont waste a 1st overall on a QB with rebuilt ankles.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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Re: Dolphins v. Steelers, MNF game thread
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: October 29, 2019 07:37AM

Lmao

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Re: Dolphins v. Steelers, MNF game thread
Posted by: Fins72 ()
Date: October 29, 2019 07:41AM

TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
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> Unless they are dead set on a QB , I dont see
> anyone better then Rosen IMO, trade down. Re build
> every position possible.2021 we have 2 first
> rounds as well we can re visit the QB position
> with a much better foundation IF necessary. You
> dont waste a 1st overall on a QB with rebuilt
> ankles.


Not sure I agree about Rosen. He has the arm but his ability to read defenses and decision-making haven't looked very good. Yes, I agree that it's hard to tell given the supporting cast, but if you can't beat out a journeyman quarterback who's on his 8th team, it's hard to imagine that he'll blossom into a difference maker type of franchise quarterback. Off the subject, you have to love Fitzpatrick though. He is such a frigging gamer. If you could put Rosen's arm on Fitzpatrick, you might have something. I still think this year's highlight (perhaps the only highlight) is Ryan putting his shoulder down and bulling his way into the end-zone.

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Posted by: pafinfan ()
Date: October 29, 2019 08:34AM

I was thinking about the Fitzpatrick 4th down run at the end of the 3rd.

Was the way it was reviewed legal? I thought the refs only had 3 minutes to make up their mind and the extra time for the quarter change shouldn't be used. 10 minutes seemed overly excessive.

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Posted by: Fins72 ()
Date: October 29, 2019 08:56AM

pafinfan Wrote:
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> I was thinking about the Fitzpatrick 4th down run
> at the end of the 3rd.
>
> Was the way it was reviewed legal? I thought the
> refs only had 3 minutes to make up their mind and
> the extra time for the quarter change shouldn't be
> used. 10 minutes seemed overly excessive.

Not sure about the time allowed, but given the angle, there's no way a ref could say there was irrefutable evidence that he was short. Yes, from a side angle it looked like he was short, but unless you have the correct vantage point, there's no way to tell. In my opinion, whatever the call on the field was, should've been upheld.

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Date: October 29, 2019 09:00AM

Fins72 Wrote:
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> TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Unless they are dead set on a QB , I dont see
> > anyone better then Rosen IMO, trade down. Re
> build
> > every position possible.2021 we have 2 first
> > rounds as well we can re visit the QB position
> > with a much better foundation IF necessary. You
> > dont waste a 1st overall on a QB with rebuilt
> > ankles.
>
>
> Not sure I agree about Rosen. He has the arm but
> his ability to read defenses and decision-making
> haven't looked very good. Yes, I agree that it's
> hard to tell given the supporting cast, but if you
> can't beat out a journeyman quarterback who's on
> his 8th team, it's hard to imagine that he'll
> blossom into a difference maker type of franchise
> quarterback. Off the subject, you have to love
> Fitzpatrick though. He is such a frigging gamer.
> If you could put Rosen's arm on Fitzpatrick, you
> might have something. I still think this year's
> highlight (perhaps the only highlight) is Ryan
> putting his shoulder down and bulling his way into
> the end-zone.

All fair points. I'm not saying Rosen is the answer. Far from it. But this is a crucial crucial draft for us. If they are not damn sure on a QB , Rosen is a viable short term option as we rebuild the team with better players.

I also dig Fitz. He could also pilot this team through a few more drafts......

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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