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No. 52
Posted by: dolphan4545 ()
Date: May 21, 2018 06:30PM


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Re: No. 52
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: May 21, 2018 07:26PM

Only ONE of the foolish moves. Getting rid rid of Jay Ajayi who was a running back like no Dolphins' running back since the old days just because he got angry and pitched a bitch one day at least rivals and probably surpasses that.

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Re: No. 52
Date: May 22, 2018 06:22AM


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Re: No. 52
Posted by: Fins72 ()
Date: May 22, 2018 06:49AM

dolphan4545 Wrote:
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> Jarvis Landry was voted one of the top 100 NFL
> players again this year, and it made me sick
> because, of course, all the films of him are in a
> Dolphins' uniform. Watch Bill Belichick building
> his game plan around stopping him, players
> admiring his ability to catch the football,
> marvelling at his huge hands. We gave him away!
> "Oh, we can replace his 1000 yard a year
> production." Well, I hope that we can, though that
> is by no means a certainty, but it wasn't really
> all the yards, it was his knack of getting those
> yards when we most needed them. And I hear, "he
> wanted too much money!" That is a silly argument
> for any of us to make, except the guy that had to
> pay him, and he NEVER made that argument. I will
> always believe that this move was one of the most
> foolish moves that this team has ever made, and
> the bit on him in this show strongly favors that
> assessment.


I have a feeling that as the season progresses, coaches, media, and fans will each realize how good Landry was. Remember, he did what he did last year with Cutler and Moore throwing him the ball. I'll say it again, there is NO way that Albert Wilson and Danny Amendola equal Jarvis Landry. NO WAY. The cap difference between Landry and Wilson plus Amendola? About 4.5 million dollars. That's less than half of the amount that they're paying Alonso to miss tackles and not cover tight ends. This move will be a defining one for Gase and Tannenbaum... and not in a good way.

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Re: No. 52
Posted by: SCPhinsFan ()
Date: May 22, 2018 12:49PM

Landry was and is a great receiver. Wilson and Amedola don't have to replace his yardage. If we have decent receiving tight ends, Landry doesn't catch 100 balls. No way.

Lets say, Landry's production goes down to 80 catches per year which is completely feasible if we have capable tight ends in Gase's 2-tight end offense. That's only the loss of a couple of catches per game.

But, at the 80 catches x 10.1 yard career average, his total yardage is 808 yards.

Would you really pay $16.2 million for 80 catches/800 yards?

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Re: No. 52
Posted by: Fins72 ()
Date: May 22, 2018 05:41PM

SCPhinsFan Wrote:
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> Landry was and is a great receiver. Wilson and
> Amedola don't have to replace his yardage. If we
> have decent receiving tight ends, Landry doesn't
> catch 100 balls. No way.
>
> Lets say, Landry's production goes down to 80
> catches per year which is completely feasible if
> we have capable tight ends in Gase's 2-tight end
> offense. That's only the loss of a couple of
> catches per game.
>
> But, at the 80 catches x 10.1 yard career average,
> his total yardage is 808 yards.
>
> Would you really pay $16.2 million for 80
> catches/800 yards?


I'd pay top dollar for a guy who moves the chains the way Landry did. The tight end situation has potential because Gesicki looks promising but let's not get ahead of ourselves. Gesicki hasn't caught a pass yet. Michael Egnew came in with some collegiate accolades and ended up a bust. Not saying that'll happen with Gesicki, but Landry was a proven all pro. Good teams don't get rid of all pros. They keep the ones they have and develop new ones before they even think of replacing what they have.

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Re: No. 52
Date: May 23, 2018 12:42PM

Fins72 Wrote:
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> SCPhinsFan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Landry was and is a great receiver. Wilson and
> > Amedola don't have to replace his yardage. If
> we
> > have decent receiving tight ends, Landry
> doesn't
> > catch 100 balls. No way.
> >
> > Lets say, Landry's production goes down to 80
> > catches per year which is completely feasible
> if
> > we have capable tight ends in Gase's 2-tight
> end
> > offense. That's only the loss of a couple of
> > catches per game.
> >
> > But, at the 80 catches x 10.1 yard career
> average,
> > his total yardage is 808 yards.
> >
> > Would you really pay $16.2 million for 80
> > catches/800 yards?
>
>
> I'd pay top dollar for a guy who moves the chains
> the way Landry did. The tight end situation has
> potential because Gesicki looks promising but
> let's not get ahead of ourselves. Gesicki hasn't
> caught a pass yet. Michael Egnew came in with some
> collegiate accolades and ended up a bust. Not
> saying that'll happen with Gesicki, but Landry was
> a proven all pro. Good teams don't get rid of all
> pros. They keep the ones they have and develop new
> ones before they even think of replacing what they
> have.


Yes. I loved Landry. Playmaker. Wish we still had him. My favorite player hands down. That said.. did he score often?
Ryan needed Red Zone help.

Next year we get a roof and despite the shade.......a lot more sunshine blown up our asses!!!!

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Re: No. 52
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: May 23, 2018 01:12PM

Landry was a deep threat. In the red zone you need to look to your tight ends and running backs.

I was about to end it there and I thought about some intellectual innocent coming back and stating that there HAS been in the history of the NFL wide receivers who have caught passes in the end zone from the red zone. Yes, But we are talking the majority, not the exception.

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Re: No. 52
Posted by: dolphan4545 ()
Date: June 01, 2018 07:31AM

SCPhinsFan Wrote:
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> Landry was and is a great receiver. Wilson and
> Amedola don't have to replace his yardage. If we
> have decent receiving tight ends, Landry doesn't
> catch 100 balls. No way.
>
> Lets say, Landry's production goes down to 80
> catches per year which is completely feasible if
> we have capable tight ends in Gase's 2-tight end
> offense. That's only the loss of a couple of
> catches per game.
>
> But, at the 80 catches x 10.1 yard career average,
> his total yardage is 808 yards.
>
> Would you really pay $16.2 million for 80
> catches/800 yards?

Let me try this again. It isn't important to me how much he makes, I don't pay him, can he help me win? I don't really care about his stat line, either. What I know is that when I need him to make a catch to get a stagnant offense rolling, he makes the catch. When I need a first down, the QB throws him the ball, he makes the catch and gets the first down. I don't care where he lines up, he is an effective wide receiver. Some people bitched that he didn't score enough, so he doubled his touchdowns and made himself an important red zone asset. Whatever they asked him to do, he did. Reality trumps stat lines every time.

Rick



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/01/2018 07:36AM by dolphan4545.

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Re: No. 52
Posted by: dolphan4545 ()
Date: June 01, 2018 07:38AM

"Landry was a deep threat."

One thing Landry wasn't was a deep threat. He didn't have the speed for it.

Rick

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Re: No. 52
Date: June 01, 2018 11:03AM

He was a killer slot receiver with YAC ability.

Next year we get a roof and despite the shade.......a lot more sunshine blown up our asses!!!!

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Re: No. 52
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: June 01, 2018 01:59PM

Yeah, I remember him racing up the sideline for big chunks of yardage. No, I didn't mean that he was famous for catching the long ball. Tanny didn't have time to do that given his poor pocket protection and the fact that he really isn't a pocket QB.

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Re: No. 52
Date: June 02, 2018 03:29AM

And why can't you evrr just admit......sorry guys. I WAS WRONG. He's not a deep threat. Lol.

I don't know what's more pathetic, your arguments or knowledge of football .

Next year we get a roof and despite the shade.......a lot more sunshine blown up our asses!!!!

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Re: No. 52
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: June 02, 2018 09:12AM

And of course you took that as an insult against your boyfriend, Tanny.

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Re: No. 52
Date: June 02, 2018 09:35AM

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> Yeah, I remember him racing up the sideline for
> big chunks of yardage. No, I didn't mean that he
> was famous for catching the long ball. Tanny
> didn't have time to do that given his poor pocket
> protection and the fact that he really isn't a
> pocket QB.



Watch and learn:

I APOLOGIZE. That was actually a well thought out compliment of the man. My bad. thumbs up

Next year we get a roof and despite the shade.......a lot more sunshine blown up our asses!!!!

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Re: No. 52
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: June 02, 2018 02:01PM


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Re: No. 52
Date: June 02, 2018 03:49PM

Ahhhhhhhh. True colors unveiled.

thumbs upsmileys with beer

Next year we get a roof and despite the shade.......a lot more sunshine blown up our asses!!!!

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Re: No. 52
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: June 02, 2018 04:42PM

Oh, if one does not support Tranny, then he is not a Dolphin fan.

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Re: No. 52
Date: June 02, 2018 04:50PM

But you were giving him a compliment just moments ago?

You don't even know the difference between a slot receiver and a deep tbreat and you want people to trust your judgement on a QB? One that had a 100% QB rating before his last game? Lol.....

Next year we get a roof and despite the shade.......a lot more sunshine blown up our asses!!!!

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Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: June 02, 2018 05:29PM


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Re: No. 52
Date: June 03, 2018 06:44AM


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Re: No. 52
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: June 03, 2018 09:32AM

This is a big deal in your mind, huh? This can't be a slip of the tongue in your mind. It has to be that, despite how long I have been following pro football, longer than you have been alive, I don't know the difference between the bomb and the breakaway. That really only speaks to your own nitwit nature.

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Date: June 03, 2018 09:54AM


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Re: No. 52
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: June 03, 2018 10:28AM

The only one being dishonest is you.

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Re: No. 52
Posted by: JC ()
Date: June 03, 2018 02:14PM

About a dozen posts of back-and-forth nonsense to close out this thread.

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