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Re: 2018 NFL, Round 1, Day 1
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: April 26, 2018 07:53PM


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Re: 2018 NFL, Round 1, Day 1
Posted by: toko34 ()
Date: April 26, 2018 08:42PM

I'm actually alright with the selection the Dolphins ended up with- Fitzpatrick could be that Ronnie Lott-type to knock that perpetual annoying crossing Tight End problem out but I'm thinking that the Dolphins upper management were scared of Rosen in Miami, perhaps rightfully so.

Rosen has a well-documented problem with partying and not taking things seriously. You put him in a town like Miami with its constant nightlife--and I could easily see a wasted pick. Rosen's a guy that was born with the proverbial silver spoon in his mouth, he's never had to struggle. I think he will do much better in a smaller city- in his young years. Maybe he will emerge late- his intellect is humongous. I like his potential- but will he survive?

I think we'd of done better by getting Tremaine Edwards though---that is a immense raw talent, but Let us see what happens in Round 2 and 3.

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Re: 2018 NFL, Round 1, Day 1
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: April 26, 2018 08:51PM

Hmmmm. Maybe.

Fact is all the QBs were gone except Lamar and then he went.

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Re: 2018 NFL, Round 1, Day 1
Posted by: Ken ()
Date: April 27, 2018 01:30AM

We were never taking Jackson. I think we would have taken Rosen at 11 had he been there, but there was no way we were trading up to get him...we didn't have the capital to do it.

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Re: 2018 NFL, Round 1, Day 1
Date: April 27, 2018 03:00AM

A cruddy Utility player? Lol. I will book Mark another ignorant comment.

Do you even know how the game of football is played!? The middle of the field on our defense couldn't stop anyone. Even with the games highest paid DT.

Out of the 5 QBs taken the Pats who had 2 1st rounders wanted no part of them. The usual losers drafted up and grabbed them hoping to give thier sad win starved fan base something to be happy about.

We get a defensive thoroughbred. A kid who can do almost anything defensively and you call him cruddy becuase you wanted a splashy flashy pick. Sad.

I suggest you get a book on the fundamentals of Football and learn how the game is won.

Next year we get a roof and despite the shade.......a lot more sunshine blown up our asses!!!!

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Re: 2018 NFL, Round 1, Day 1
Posted by: astro34 ()
Date: April 27, 2018 03:45AM

The way the draft played out we had three choices:

1) trade back - no takers (but we still have to take someone if we did trade back)

2)LB Edmunds - went to buffalo at #16

3) Fitzpatrick - our selection

Would have been happy with any of those, Fitzpatrick was a steal at #11.

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Re: 2018 NFL, Round 1, Day 1
Posted by: Grimey13 ()
Date: April 27, 2018 04:02AM

I wanted Edmunds or Smith but I am happy with Fitzpatrick. A lot of the "experts" had him as a top 5 talent in this draft.

He can play all over the place and I have heard a lot of people say he could be a top 3 DB\S in the league. Matched up with Jones...I am excited for that.

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Re: 2018 NFL, Round 1, Day 1
Posted by: Fins72 ()
Date: April 27, 2018 04:20AM

jsm08 Wrote:
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> Fitzpatrick was the BPA at 11. We don't have a
> FS. If you want to complain, complain about
> signing McDonal to an extension when we already
> had Jones. They're the same player.
>
> Edmunds didn't go until 16 so maybe the hype was
> just that.
>
> I like fitzpatrick and will think he'll be a big
> part of the d for the new regime next year.

You're missing my point. Fitzpatrick is a good player yes. But, it begs the question of why you extend MacDonald when 1) he was coming off of an 8 game suspension and 2) his skill set was identical to Reshad Jones. Basically, either they didn't do their homework regarding what type of player McDonald was, or they knew and extended him anyway knowing that at some point they'd need to draft/acquire a free safety. They pissed away cap space that was needed this off season.

They did the same damn thing at defensive end. They extended a mediocre player in Branch then drafted Harris and then traded for Quinn. No plan, just a bunch of random moves that further eat away at the cap space needed to acquire players to fill huge holes.

Tremaine Edmunds was the logical pick. We have no linebacker on the roster that you can unequivocally say is a solid play-maker. Don't give me McMillan because we have no idea what we have in him. He's a second round player who blew out his knee last year. Maybe he pans out and maybe he doesn't. Alonso should thank his lucky stars he got extended before his putrid performance last year. He can't tackle and he sure as hell can't cover anyone. As far as other linebackers on the roster? Special teams players at best.

Can they address linebacker in the second round? Maybe, but the best four are already gone.

I see no plan with this team ever since Tannenbaum took over. A bunch of moves here and there with no long term vision for the team. Until someone with half a brain takes over the decision-making for this team, they'll continue being mediocre. Fans can pretend that things will change, but I have years of watching this crap that tells me it won't. Culture change was their motto? Maybe change the culture surrounding the VP, GM, and head coach would be a more useful theme for this team to commit to.

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Re: 2018 NFL, Round 1, Day 1
Posted by: CincinnatiFinFAn ()
Date: April 27, 2018 05:07AM

This is why I think they made that Fitzpatrick pick (I still would have rather seen LB or DT). The Pats, we drafted safety because of the Pats. Fitzpatrick can cover and tackle, and will play a hybrid safety / LB role, similar to the defense they play in Arizona.

Fitzpatrick will play up in the box and help on run defense, and cover RB's out of the backfield, slot receivers and TE's (Gronk).

72, I agree with you on our LB situation. They are really high on McMillan, but he hasn't proven anything yet. Alonso .... he's a body in there I guess.

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Re: 2018 NFL, Round 1, Day 1
Date: April 27, 2018 05:10AM

Excellent pick. Best player available and a huge hole filled on defense.thumbs up

Next year we get a roof and despite the shade.......a lot more sunshine blown up our asses!!!!

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Re: 2018 NFL, Round 1, Day 1
Posted by: Fins72 ()
Date: April 27, 2018 06:05AM

CincinnatiFinFAn Wrote:
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> This is why I think they made that Fitzpatrick
> pick (I still would have rather seen LB or DT).
> The Pats, we drafted safety because of the Pats.
> Fitzpatrick can cover and tackle, and will play a
> hybrid safety / LB role, similar to the defense
> they play in Arizona.
>
> Fitzpatrick will play up in the box and help on
> run defense, and cover RB's out of the backfield,
> slot receivers and TE's (Gronk).
>
> 72, I agree with you on our LB situation. They are
> really high on McMillan, but he hasn't proven
> anything yet. Alonso .... he's a body in there I
> guess.

Unfortunately, the pickings are getting slim at linebacker. Malik Jefferson has speed and size but might be a bit high of a pick at #42. I know some of the sports writers have mentioned Fred Warner as a possible target. Hell, they may not even address linebacker in the second. They might go tight end. That's the problem, free agency left this team with too many holes to address in one draft.

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Re: 2018 NFL, Round 1, Day 1
Date: April 27, 2018 07:15AM

Hey Zack Thomas was found in the 5th.....I believe the best Football players are found in the middle rounds.

Next year we get a roof and despite the shade.......a lot more sunshine blown up our asses!!!!

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Re: 2018 NFL, Round 1, Day 1
Posted by: CincinnatiFinFAn ()
Date: April 27, 2018 07:16AM

Before the departure of Landry, Suh and Pouncey, we would not have had enough money to sign our draft class. So while free agency took arguably our 3 best players, something had to be done.

I still feel like we could have found a way to keep Landry, but Suh, as good as he was, cost too much. As far as Pouncey, great when he's healthy, but not sure if he will ever be 100% again.

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Re: 2018 NFL, Round 1, Day 1
Posted by: Fins72 ()
Date: April 27, 2018 07:26AM

TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
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> Hey Zack Thomas was found in the 5th.....I believe
> the best Football players are found in the middle
> rounds.


Zach was a once in a generation player plus I trusted Jimmy's judgment a lot more than the guys picking our players now.

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Re: 2018 NFL, Round 1, Day 1
Posted by: captkoi ()
Date: April 27, 2018 09:24AM

samsam3738 Wrote:
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> Ken Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Give it a rest Sam, there wasent a QB worth
> taking
> > and we didnt have the capital to trade up to
> get
> > one.
>
>
> I would had rather picked lamar jackson and hope
> he can develop.
>
> We dont even have a capable backup qb but scrubs
> sitting on the bench...............
>
> Pathetic.

***************************************************

Relax, Sam. Only one round has occurred. Mia didn't have the ammo to move up to get one of the top QBs (if they even wanted one). There are still QBs out there for the picking. L. Jackson just never did it for me, and it seems like many other teams feel the same way.

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Re: 2018 NFL, Round 1, Day 1
Posted by: captkoi ()
Date: April 27, 2018 09:25AM

Ken Wrote:
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> Edmunds would have been the best pick to make for
> us...

*****************************************************

I thought for sure that's who Miami was going to pick when he was still there at 11. Surprised me.

Fitzpatrick is a good pick, tho.

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Re: 2018 NFL, Round 1, Day 1
Date: April 27, 2018 10:27AM

Fins72 Wrote:
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> TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Hey Zack Thomas was found in the 5th.....I
> believe
> > the best Football players are found in the
> middle
> > rounds.
>
>
> Zach was a once in a generation player plus I
> trusted Jimmy's judgment a lot more than the guys
> picking our players now.


True. JJ was the man.

But don't be fooled......majoriy of great players come in the middle.

Next year we get a roof and despite the shade.......a lot more sunshine blown up our asses!!!!

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Re: 2018 NFL, Round 1, Day 1
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: April 27, 2018 12:41PM

TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
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> samsam3738 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > This was an excellent 1st round pick for
> > > us......along with other defense players who
> > were
> > > hurt last season, we are a better team. This
> was
> > a
> > > Stormy Daniels ........... HOLE FILLED.drinking smiley
> >
> >
> > Yes we going to the superbowl next
> year.eye rolling smileyeye rolling smileyeye rolling smiley
> >
> >
> > We pick a position which is possible the
> deepest
> > position on this team.
> >
> > The front office is clueless.
> >
> > If not a qb then we should have gotten a LB
> which
> > is the weakest position by far.
>
>
> Lol......awwww Sammy didn't get his QB....sad smiley im
> marking this response. Your gonna eat those words.


If tannehill gets hurt agin i will be slapping you until you eat all the nonesense youve posted so far.

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Re: 2018 NFL, Round 1, Day 1
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: April 27, 2018 12:45PM

Hey tcpf...................Take your pick....

1. Tannehill stays in the pocket.....He stinks as a pocket qb.....DEER IN THE HEADLIGHTS.

2. Tannehill goes on the run and shoot and one good pop and you be eating your words.

Pick one.

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Re: 2018 NFL, Round 1, Day 1
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: April 27, 2018 01:19PM


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Re: 2018 NFL, Round 1, Day 1
Date: April 27, 2018 01:36PM

Historic!? Take NOTE? LOL......grinning smiley

First .....dont you think its a little early to determine if its Historic?

Bahabaaaaahagrinning smiley

Dude. The Pats had 2 draft picks in the first round. They wanted no part of any of them. The Loser Jets and Bills sure jumped like puppy dogs to move up and grab one though.

Your delusional.

Next year we get a roof and despite the shade.......a lot more sunshine blown up our asses!!!!



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Re: 2018 NFL, Round 1, Day 1
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: April 27, 2018 01:58PM


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Re: 2018 NFL, Round 1, Day 1
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: April 27, 2018 02:59PM

I would had like rudolph in the second but iam not mad we got gilicky...

This kid is going to be great.

If we can get rudolph in the third...Id be happy again.

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Re: 2018 NFL, Round 1, Day 1
Date: April 28, 2018 02:46AM

We have a great QB. You should be happy. Now he has a great red zone target.

Next year we get a roof and despite the shade.......a lot more sunshine blown up our asses!!!!

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Re: 2018 NFL, Round 1, Day 1
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: April 28, 2018 09:07AM

Just like a friggin jealous lover.

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Re: 2018 NFL, Round 1, Day 1
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: April 28, 2018 09:49AM


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Re: 2018 NFL, Round 1, Day 1
Posted by: Grimey13 ()
Date: April 28, 2018 10:32AM

Maybe he could get hurt and maybe he could stay healthy the rest of his career. Why does that make tcpf clueless and you and chryen the almighty gods of future injuries?

Neither one of you can prove either way to be true yet so why all the attacks. You and chryen are both "my way or the highway". No one can have a different opinion than you? If they due no reason to constantly attack.

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Re: 2018 NFL, Round 1, Day 1
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: April 28, 2018 10:34AM

Because we wanted a backup future starter in case tannehill cant play...

But TCPF sees it as tannehill cant get hurt again....

He is in love with tannehill.

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Re: 2018 NFL, Round 1, Day 1
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: April 28, 2018 10:37AM

Grimey, because injuries to the knee are....are....are....(not only in football but basketball, baseball, ....and even in Golf) the worst injury for an athlete to have. Do you disagree???????



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Re: 2018 NFL, Round 1, Day 1
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: April 28, 2018 10:38AM

And tcpf talks about marino had like 15 surgeries..

But marino didnt had to scramble because he was one of the best qbs in the pocket as opposed to tannehill who sucks in the pocket...>DEER IN THE HEADLIGHTS.


Tannehill has to make things happen with his feet. Thats where the injury happens.

We needed insurance at the qb position and now we are stuck with two scrubs who will backup Tannehill.

Tannehil goes down season over.

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