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So, we stink on BOTH sides of the ball!
Posted by: montequi ()
Date: August 12, 2016 04:17PM

I know our starting D-line wasn't in there, but our D has NOT been terribly impressive against the Giant's 2nd string QB.

As for our offense....beyond putrid!

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Re: So, we stink on BOTH sides of the ball!
Posted by: Hooligan2 ()
Date: August 12, 2016 04:35PM

One first down in the first half and we're ahead 17 - 10 ??

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The Clown Show Continues



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Re: So, we stink on BOTH sides of the ball!
Posted by: montequi ()
Date: August 12, 2016 04:49PM

1 TD was set up by the defense. The other was a freak play.

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Re: So, we stink on BOTH sides of the ball!
Posted by: SouthFlPhinFan ()
Date: August 12, 2016 05:40PM

montequi Wrote:
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> 1 TD was set up by the defense. The other was a
> freak play.

I like that freak play, we need more of those lucky plays to go our way, am used to them going against us...

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Re: So, we stink on BOTH sides of the ball!
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: August 12, 2016 05:40PM

Jakeem grant is a keeper......


Doughty is a keeper...

Tunsil willbe starting by the first game of the season....He had a great block on a screen pass by doughty.


This starting Oline they need to tweek it.......Insert laremy tunsel take out on of the scrub Guards that are in there. I suppose they will do that once they have an idea and see tunsil a bit more/

I do like that jakeem grant is taking landrys job from him of returning punts and kickoffs...Grant is ellectric.

I like that we got better as the game went on....But against scrubs.

Very vanilla on first team offense...a few runs and a couple of passes by tannehill......no passes went for over 5 yards i think.

alonzo forgot how to tackle but the Dline was missing their main 3 starters so i guess he will be better once they come back and close some holes...

Id like to see doughty develop behind tannehill for a couple of years.

Pead RB has some good cuts...

Dont take mike hull off special teams please....he has a knack for making tackles....


Anybody know who started as guards today?


Devante parker didnt play i guess its precationary...

Once we have the starters in place we have some talent on this team....

The Oline has some depth...

Juwann james with a hold penalty...

Mike pouncey opened up a hole real nice for the RB.

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Re: So, we stink on BOTH sides of the ball!
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: August 12, 2016 05:44PM

WTF Daniel thomas is still on this team?


RB?


Is this the same daniel thomas from a couple years?

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Re: So, we stink on BOTH sides of the ball!
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: August 12, 2016 05:56PM

what i mostly see this year is that we have some good depth in some positions....


Tannehill needs to play more next week...


Tony romo next week


Wake suh and williams should play next week.

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Re: So, we stink on BOTH sides of the ball!
Posted by: dgoodhue ()
Date: August 12, 2016 06:10PM

The starting offense was disappointing, 2x 3 and outs. Tannehill got hit 3 of the 4 times he went back to pass. No holes for the RB, holding call on a run. The starting offensive line didn't play well. This has to be fixed.

The 'starting' defense looked like it was over pursing on the 1st couple drives. I think they had 5 starter resting. Beside the 1st drive they held the Giants in check.

The depth of team seems better than last year. Last year this team was getting blown out when the back up were in.

I thought RB Damian Williams didn't look good, too much sideline to sideline running not enough north-south.

Miami Rookie class seemed to play well - Dourty, Grant, Caroo, Duarte.

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Re: So, we stink on BOTH sides of the ball!
Posted by: dgoodhue ()
Date: August 12, 2016 06:13PM

Yes he is the same Daniel Thomas that Miami draft 5 years ago. I think this is his 3rd time with the Dolphins.

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Re: So, we stink on BOTH sides of the ball!
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: August 12, 2016 06:36PM

I'm not looking at the game but the Lebanese is back??????????????????

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Re: So, we stink on BOTH sides of the ball!
Date: August 12, 2016 07:54PM

VERY Bad day at work...........sad smiley Wound up missing the entire game. angry smiley

16hrs in 90* heat with body Armour and 30 pds of gear.


Lucky its only Pre season. cool smiley We won.......but I'm guessing it wasn't all good?

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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Re: So, we stink on BOTH sides of the ball!
Posted by: colonel ()
Date: August 13, 2016 06:51AM

TC--it's been damn hot and humid to boot. I understand your discomfort.

Game was typical of first preseason with 2nd, 3rd and 4th string players trying to impress. Most didn't. Despite the win, and some voicing an impressive note about Doughty, it's far to early to know much about any of the new players (rookies or veteran FAs).

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Re: So, we stink on BOTH sides of the ball!
Posted by: thegreathoo ()
Date: August 13, 2016 09:09AM

Dline looked good. DBs were amazing. Linebacker seem to be playing strictly assignments, they are not swarming and hitting.

Offensive scheme, playcalling is bad. Oline showed no effort. RBs are slow. Pead ran with purpose and he distinguished himself. TEs were non existent. WRs are awesome but with the QBing and poor coaching there will be issues.

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Re: So, we stink on BOTH sides of the ball!
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: August 13, 2016 11:07AM

Woke up at 7am. Couldn't stay awake. Only saw enough to see that our defense didn't seem to be able to stop the run.... as usual...(in the few possessions I saw that is). That was only based on a few sleepy head possessions, hoo.

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Re: So, we stink on BOTH sides of the ball!
Posted by: fiedlerhater ()
Date: August 13, 2016 08:13PM

Did Kenyan Drake touch the ball or was he sitting??

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Re: So, we stink on BOTH sides of the ball!
Posted by: dgoodhue ()
Date: August 14, 2016 02:25AM

Drake did not play and has not been practicing. IIRC Its because of his hamstring.

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Re: So, we stink on BOTH sides of the ball!
Date: August 14, 2016 10:21AM

colonel Wrote:
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> TC--it's been damn hot and humid to boot. I
> understand your discomfort.
>
> Game was typical of first preseason with 2nd, 3rd
> and 4th string players trying to impress. Most
> didn't. Despite the win, and some voicing an
> impressive note about Doughty, it's far to early
> to know much about any of the new players (rookies
> or veteran FAs).


Crappy day for me Friday. Just finished my reports late yesterday afternoon. Man I was bummed about missing the Phins. Rarely happens.

I got to watch some of the game on a cable repeat on the South Florida Public channel. I saw the Oline collapse around Tannehill after 1 snap. He still got a nice reception off while going down. I'm sorry. That Oline needs to step it up. We had no running game either. GASE has his work cut out for him. A Good coach works with our strengths and weaknesses. Standing tall in the pocket is not an option for Tanny behind this line. They will have to change it up with bootlegs , or go shotgun. Terrible.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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Re: So, we stink on BOTH sides of the ball!
Posted by: jlyell13 ()
Date: August 14, 2016 05:21PM

Pead looked nice


Landry, Parker, Carroo, Stills and Grant is an impressive WR corp

Duarte and sims may replace Cameron

But it all depends on the QB

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Re: So, we stink on BOTH sides of the ball!
Date: August 14, 2016 08:34PM

QB needs more then 0.08 seconds to analyze the field and throw a decent pass before he gets hit.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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Re: So, we stink on BOTH sides of the ball!
Posted by: montequi ()
Date: August 15, 2016 02:35AM

TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
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> QB needs more then 0.08 seconds to analyze the
> field and throw a decent pass before he gets hit.

The QB can MAKE the time by shifting in the pocket, pump faking, change the intonation on his calls to draw the defense off-sides, etc.. You can't JUST blame the O-Line for sacks.

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Re: So, we stink on BOTH sides of the ball!
Posted by: jsm08 ()
Date: August 15, 2016 03:58AM

I agree with victor to an extent. Tannehill has to be able to feel the pressure and move around but he turner and thomas experiment needs to end.

We drafted Tunsil at 13. We signed Urbik and Bushrod in FA. Insert Tunsil and LG and Bushrod/Urbik and right guard and move on. Turner and Thomas are 'break glass in case of emergency' depth at this point.

Enough of the tinkering. This isn't REC ball. Their are no minimum play requirements. You drafted/signed these guys for a reason. You owe nothing to turner and thomas. Move them off the starting line ASAP and insert the future. Let these guys gel the rest of the preseason.

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Re: So, we stink on BOTH sides of the ball!
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: August 15, 2016 04:01AM


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Re: So, we stink on BOTH sides of the ball!
Posted by: montequi ()
Date: August 15, 2016 08:07AM

samsam3738 Wrote:
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> montequi Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > QB needs more then 0.08 seconds to analyze
> the
> > > field and throw a decent pass before he gets
> > hit.
> >
> > The QB can MAKE the time by shifting in the
> > pocket, pump faking, change the intonation on
> his
> > calls to draw the defense off-sides, etc.. You
> > can't JUST blame the O-Line for sacks.
>
>
> Tannehill doesnt have that ability.

I don't disagree with you!

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Re: So, we stink on BOTH sides of the ball!
Posted by: montequi ()
Date: August 15, 2016 08:08AM

jsm08 Wrote:
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> I agree with victor to an extent. Tannehill has
> to be able to feel the pressure and move around
> but he turner and thomas experiment needs to end.
>
>
> We drafted Tunsil at 13. We signed Urbik and
> Bushrod in FA. Insert Tunsil and LG and
> Bushrod/Urbik and right guard and move on. Turner
> and Thomas are 'break glass in case of emergency'
> depth at this point.
>
> Enough of the tinkering. This isn't REC ball.
> Their are no minimum play requirements. You
> drafted/signed these guys for a reason. You owe
> nothing to turner and thomas. Move them off the
> starting line ASAP and insert the future. Let
> these guys gel the rest of the preseason.

Agreed! We've been tinkering with the O-Line since Sparano was here. It's time to pick 5 guys and stick with them.

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Re: So, we stink on BOTH sides of the ball!
Date: August 15, 2016 02:42PM

samsam3738 Wrote:
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> montequi Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > QB needs more then 0.08 seconds to analyze
> the
> > > field and throw a decent pass before he gets
> > hit.
> >
> > The QB can MAKE the time by shifting in the
> > pocket, pump faking, change the intonation on
> his
> > calls to draw the defense off-sides, etc.. You
> > can't JUST blame the O-Line for sacks.
>
>
> Tannehill doesnt have that ability.




Oh.....you mean good coaching options that teach different skills ? Philbin wouldn't change the Fing snap count!!!!What makes you think he would uncuff him to make decisions?

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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Re: So, we stink on BOTH sides of the ball!
Posted by: FootballGod ()
Date: August 16, 2016 12:51PM

Looks like Foster is going to make his debut on friday, that should help open things up for RT if he's even close to the running form he was in two seasons ago.

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