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Pick?
Posted by: jlyell13 ()
Date: March 09, 2016 05:48PM

Now that we are at 13 is it Conklin, Eli Apple, Ragland, Lee?

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Re: Pick?
Posted by: jsm08 ()
Date: March 10, 2016 12:01AM

eli apple is a 2nd round talent at best.

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Re: Pick?
Posted by: JoeFootball ()
Date: March 10, 2016 03:51AM

We need a CB, 2 OL, RB, DE, DT & LB

What they should do and what they will do are worlds apart. I have little faith in anything at this point. We have dropped out of contention for any of the elite prospects to fall to us at 8.

They have show that they plan on going into the season with a rotation of Earl Mitchell and Jordan Phillips. This is Tannenbum's pride talking since JP was his guy. At 13 they SHOULD take one of the Bama DT's but they won't.

They also won't take Conklin because he's a tackle and they would rather go into the season with Sam Young or someone like aging and injured, 32 year old, Jermon Bushrod (who they are chasing).

They obviously do not value guards so they will skip these guys until the 3rd round or later. They could have had the best RT in the league for only $6.2M but decided to pass. They also do not value RB's as they would rather go after a mid-level guy like CJ Anderson.

It will likely be a CB or DE with a long shot at WLB since not many meet the "prototype" at 6'3.

At this point I would just trade down. The talent level drops off at 8 so may as well get down around 17-18 and have a good shot of landing the same value.

What they should do....

Cut Earl Mitchell

Sign Evan Mathis, Nick Fairley, Geoff Schwartz

Draft Kevin Dodd at 13, Kendall Fuller at 42, Devontae Booker at 73

What they will do??....who the hell knows?

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Re: Pick?
Posted by: Ken ()
Date: March 10, 2016 04:19AM

JoeFootball Wrote:
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> We need a CB, 2 OL, RB, DE, DT & LB

RE: I disagree, I think we don't need a DT. Phillips isn't bad.
>
> What they should do and what they will do are
> worlds apart. I have little faith in anything at
> this point. We have dropped out of contention for
> any of the elite prospects to fall to us at 8.
>
> They have show that they plan on going into the
> season with a rotation of Earl Mitchell and Jordan
> Phillips. This is Tannenbum's pride talking since
> JP was his guy. At 13 they SHOULD take one of the
> Bama DT's but they won't.
>
> They also won't take Conklin because he's a tackle
> and they would rather go into the season with Sam
> Young or someone like aging and injured, 32 year
> old, Jermon Bushrod (who they are chasing).
>
> They obviously do not value guards so they will
> skip these guys until the 3rd round or later. They
> could have had the best RT in the league for only
> $6.2M but decided to pass. They also do not value
> RB's as they would rather go after a mid-level guy
> like CJ Anderson.
>
> It will likely be a CB or DE with a long shot at
> WLB since not many meet the "prototype" at 6'3.

RE: Agreed.
>
> At this point I would just trade down. The talent
> level drops off at 8 so may as well get down
> around 17-18 and have a good shot of landing the
> same value.
>
> What they should do....
>
> Cut Earl Mitchell
>
> Sign Evan Mathis, Nick Fairley, Geoff Schwartz
>
> Draft Kevin Dodd at 13, Kendall Fuller at 42,
> Devontae Booker at 73
>
> What they will do??....who the hell knows?

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Re: Pick?
Posted by: dgoodhue ()
Date: March 10, 2016 04:29AM

We do need at least another DT (a total of 4), maybe Jordan Phillip will develop this year, but their needs to be a rotation of DT's. Suh can't play every down still be effective at the end of the game. Earl Mitchell graded very poorly. IMO Mitchell and the LB's are why Miami has been so poor at defending the run.

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Re: Pick?
Posted by: JoeFootball ()
Date: March 10, 2016 08:02AM


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Re: Pick?
Posted by: dgoodhue ()
Date: March 10, 2016 09:06AM

I looked at the 2013 & 2014 rosters; you are right that the Dolphins have historical only rotated 3 DT's.

We still need at least one DT that is better than Mitchell. Mitchell is 28 y/o and has reached his ceiling. It just isn't good enough for a starting DT especially when he is playing next to a productive DT and DE.

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Re: Pick?
Posted by: JoeFootball ()
Date: March 10, 2016 09:53AM

Playing on a line made up of Wake, OV and Suh, he should have been wreaking havoc all over the place. He was invisible.

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Re: Pick?
Posted by: Ken ()
Date: March 10, 2016 10:55AM

Yeah, and those other three guys were invisible all too often too...

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Re: Pick?
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: March 10, 2016 11:33AM

Ken Wrote:
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> Yeah, and those other three guys were invisible
> all too often too...


Agreed...... its a team sport....Everybody was struggling.

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Re: Pick?
Posted by: JoeFootball ()
Date: March 11, 2016 04:44PM

jsm08 Wrote:
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> eli apple is a 2nd round talent at best.

Several are saying he could go before Hargreaves as they see VH as a nickle corner. Only question about EA was speed and he answered that at combine.

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Re: Pick?
Posted by: jsm08 ()
Date: March 12, 2016 12:13AM

I'm no scout. I don't study these guys for a living. My unprofessional opinion is based on being a Buckeye fan and watching all of their games.

The guy that got penalized and torched the most was Apple. He has prototypical size and good speed. His workouts are trumping his film right now.

I was shocked when he declared and at the time thought he'd be a 3rd round value pick.

Watching most of the gator games too I'd take Hargreaves over Apple every day of the week and twice on Sundays.

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Re: Pick?
Posted by: JoeFootball ()
Date: March 12, 2016 04:54AM


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