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More cuts/restructures today by Miami
Posted by: JoeFootball ()
Date: February 13, 2016 06:50AM

Chris McCain and Quinton Coples.

No surprise about Coples since he has a huge contract but they have obviously given up on McC. He was only scheduled to make 600k. Time to stop wasting time on these stagnant players anyway. We save 7.75 mil with Coples.

Senior personnel executive Eric Stokes was fired today as well. He came with Hickey.



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Re: 2016 cuts have started
Posted by: jsm08 ()
Date: February 13, 2016 07:09AM

McCain was a very good slot corner with the steelers so instead of playing him there we put him on the outside.

I don't agree with that move especially with his salary. Put him at the right position and he'd be fine. Cheap veteran depth at one of our weakest positions.

Coples was a no brainer.

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Re: 2016 cuts have started
Posted by: JoeFootball ()
Date: February 13, 2016 08:38AM

My bad. It was Brice McCain, not Chris.

We had a rookie outplay Chris so it makes sense to me. Bobby should be even better in his second year. Too many McCains!

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Re: 2016 cuts have started
Posted by: JoeFootball ()
Date: March 01, 2016 09:59AM

We are 3 mil OVER the cap right now. More cuts and restructures will be coming in the next few days.

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Re: 2016 cuts have started
Posted by: jlyell13 ()
Date: March 01, 2016 05:42PM

Brice McCain was terrible and Chris couldn't stay healthy

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Re: 2016 cuts have started
Posted by: JoeFootball ()
Date: March 02, 2016 04:39AM


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Re: 2016 cuts have started
Posted by: jlyell13 ()
Date: March 02, 2016 04:58PM

Agree pretty much with JoeFootball

Let Wake go old and injury prone

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Re: 2016 cuts have started
Posted by: Crowder52 ()
Date: March 03, 2016 03:15AM

Does us being over the cap by 3.5 million include the roughly 9+ million in carry over from last year?

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Re: 2016 cuts have started
Posted by: JoeFootball ()
Date: March 03, 2016 04:04AM

Yes it includes the rollover.

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Re: 2016 cuts have started
Posted by: BigNastyFish ()
Date: March 03, 2016 05:10AM

Bad shape now. Bad shape in the future.

Good thing last season was all about winning!

The financial cap condition of this team is absolutely horrific.

Even Ross the Clown should have enough brains to see that overspending while underperforming is a sure sign your organization is horribly managed.

Sure looks like this ship needs to sink even further before there's any legit hope for a serious rise...

Hope I'm wrong -- but man it's hard to invest any belief as long as Ross owns the product.

As far as OV, I said a while back we needed to get a deal done well before the critical stages and of course we missed.

In retrospect, we can ALL clearly see that signing Suh was a titanic mistake -- way too much $$$$ buried in one player -- breaking the bank and telling kids like OV your best bet is elsewhere.

BNF.

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Re: 2016 cuts have started
Posted by: Crowder52 ()
Date: March 03, 2016 06:58AM

JoeFootball Wrote:
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> Yes it includes the rollover.


thanks, I was optimistically hoping it wasnt though.....
We get rid of Greg Jennings, Misi and Jordan Cameron or restructure him, should help a bit.. But we have a long way to go... We better draft well this year....

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Re: 2016 cuts have started
Posted by: JoeFootball ()
Date: March 03, 2016 08:01AM

The FA market is growing more each day. Charles Johnson, Daryl Smith, Roddy White, Marques Colston all newest cuts. The more DE's that get cut the better chance we have of keeping OV.

Mario Williams, Chris Long, Charles Johnson all on the market.

The fact that the Ravens cut Smith makes me think they could have their eyes on Ragland or Jack in the draft. Two Bama LB's in the middle? More likely to take Jack at 6.

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Re: 2016 cuts have started
Posted by: JoeFootball ()
Date: March 05, 2016 04:26PM

Misi restructured to save 1.7 mil. That should put him around 3.1 mil for this year.

They created $23.9 million in salary cap space by releasing Jennings (+4m) and restructuring Suh (+$18.18 million)

$14.9 million in cap space as of right now. That includes OV money.

CUT EARL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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Re: More cuts/restructures today by Miami
Posted by: mizzou15 ()
Date: March 06, 2016 07:37AM

Cut Cameron

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Re: More cuts/restructures today by Miami
Posted by: captkoi ()
Date: March 06, 2016 12:09PM

mizzou15 Wrote:
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> Cut Cameron

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Although it doesn't seem as tho Grimes and Wake are willing to restructure their contracts, they should.

Grimes is up in age and is short. He didn't have a very good 2015.

Wake is coming off his Achilles and is 34 years old. I highly doubt he will find any team willing to pay him that. Needs to finish his career with Miami.

Both of these players should sign an incentive based contract. Would be fair for both the players and the team.

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Re: More cuts/restructures today by Miami
Posted by: mizzou15 ()
Date: March 06, 2016 12:31PM

They are on my cut list too.

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Re: More cuts/restructures today by Miami
Posted by: dolphan4545 ()
Date: March 06, 2016 03:01PM

"Cut Cameron"

Disagree. Restructure Cameron. You do know that we have to replace everybody we cut, don't you? We have too many other positions to fill with competent talent to waste money on FA's to replace guys that ARE competent.

Rick

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Re: More cuts/restructures today by Miami
Posted by: JoeFootball ()
Date: March 07, 2016 04:46AM

Cameron is a talented TE with the potential to be elite. He has done it before. He is also WAY overpaid at this point. His cap hit is larger than Gronk's and several other top TE's. They NEED to restructure/extend. 9.5 mil is too much.

Considering the way he played last year with all those drops, he should be willing to decrease his cap hit.

I'm sure Gase would love to utilize him as an actual receiver in his offense instead of an offensive lineman. We are already losing Tannehill's second favorite target in Mathews.

Brace yourselves for many WTF moments over the next week.

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Re: More cuts/restructures today by Miami
Posted by: JoeFootball ()
Date: March 08, 2016 04:15AM

Jordan Cameron has restructured his contract! That's what i wanted to hear.

Actually just took a pay cut from 7.5 mil to 6 mil. No extension. Has an $8M cap hit.

Turns out to be $12.5M deal. Average of $6.25M per year.



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Re: More cuts/restructures today by Miami
Posted by: Crowder52 ()
Date: March 08, 2016 05:35AM

JoeFootball Wrote:
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> Jordan Cameron has restructured his contract!
> That's what i wanted to hear.
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> Actually just took a pay cut from 7.5 mil to 6
> mil. No extension. Has an $8M cap hit.
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> Turns out to be $12.5M deal. Average of $6.25M per
> year.


Where did you read the terms of the restructure? Do you have a link and a source, I cant find the terms anywhere....

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Re: More cuts/restructures today by Miami
Posted by: Crowder52 ()
Date: March 08, 2016 05:55AM

Never mind, I see that Alex Marvez posted it...

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Re: More cuts/restructures today by Miami
Posted by: JoeFootball ()
Date: March 08, 2016 06:58AM

Cam Wake is likely next. I think our starting DE's next year will be Mario Williams and William Hayes.

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Re: More cuts/restructures today by Miami
Posted by: captkoi ()
Date: March 08, 2016 11:46AM

JoeFootball Wrote:
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> Cam Wake is likely next. I think our starting DE's
> next year will be Mario Williams and William
> Hayes.

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I hope Wake restructures his deal as I wish for him to return to the Fins.

If he tests the waters I'm sure he will see that he isn't as valued as he thinks he is. But then again, there is always one team that is willing to take the chance.

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Re: More cuts/restructures today by Miami
Posted by: JoeFootball ()
Date: March 08, 2016 12:08PM

for 8 games? 10 games? What's he worth?

On a personal note, I would like to see him make some money. He has been underpaid for years.

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Re: More cuts/restructures today by Miami
Posted by: mizzou15 ()
Date: March 08, 2016 01:20PM

If Wake leaves I hope he goes to a super bowl contender (as well as Grimes). These 2 ave 110% whenever they suited up for us. As long as its not the Patriots, Bills or Jets.

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Re: More cuts/restructures today by Miami
Posted by: JoeFootball ()
Date: March 08, 2016 02:06PM

No it will be Mathews that goes to the Pats and puts up 1200 yards and 10 td's. No way Bill takes on Miko. He would have her killed.

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