Are we really any better than with Henne or Moore?
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Unless we have the best offensive line and a great running game, he will not do it for us. He can hit short passes, but the long game is not his strength and neither is pocket awareness, which he has NONE!
I can put it all on him as this team is just mentally somewhere else. Some of the plays (and play calling) is mind blowing. SAD!!!
Maybe the worst part of Philbin & company anointing Tannehill as a franchise guy when he'd done little/nothing to show he could be one, was that they failed to secure ANY viable backup plan. Moore won't help anything...but at this point it wouldn't hurt my feelings to see him. Go sign Kapernick off 'IR' for the rest of the year...hell it couldn't be a lot worse!
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/22/2015 02:05PM by KB.
ChyrenB Wrote:
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> LOL. I just thought......SamSam, who do we play
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> a) "The Wet Firecracker" or
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> b) "Just a back-up."
Chren i dont even know who would be better at this point.
Tanny played well enough to win. He didn't let the bad INT shake him.He came right back and put us in the game. Could he play better? Absolutely. He is still holding on to that too long, taking sacks, and he left a few wide open recivers. His field vision could be better. But.......this is his first season with many of the receivers , he's not in tune with a lot of them. That said, this defense played HORRIBLE. 3RD AND 26 and the got a first down.1 play later it 7 points.And you want to shit on Ryan?How will Matt Moore help that? Seriously do you even listen to yourselves?
TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
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> Tanny played well enough to win. He didn't let the
> bad INT shake him.He came right back and put us in
> the game. Could he play better? Absolutely. He is
> still holding on to that too long, taking sacks,
> and he left a few wide open recivers. His field
> vision could be better. But.......this is his
> first season with many of the receivers , he's not
> in tune with a lot of them. That said, this
> defense played HORRIBLE. 3RD AND 26 and the got a
> first down.1 play later it 7 points.And you want
> to shit on Ryan?How will Matt Moore help that?
> Seriously do you even listen to yourselves?
Treausure, to answer your last sentence....No, they don't.
We have to remember, the QB is the easiest target for fans. That's all they see. Defense is crap? It's the QBs fault that Miami didn't win.
Before coming to this board, I was on the AOL board. After the Dolphins lost to the Jets in that overtime Monday night game way back when, one of our posters had the gall to actually put the blame on the offense, for not getting at least one more first down, etc. This is the game where Miami had about a 30 point lead going into the 4th quarter(?), and lost in overtime.
That's where a lot of our present posters are right now.
Many times tannehill has a good amount of time to throw the football but he locks up on a receiver....>And if that single receiver is not open he just holds into the football until he gets sacked...
Tannehill is not the qb of the future....Havent you guys figure that out yet?
I bet you anything if it was rodgers the qb of this team we be winning more.
samsam3738 Wrote:
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> Quote: We have to remember, the QB is the easiest
> target for fans. That's all they see. Defense is
> crap? It's the QBs fault that Miami didn't win.
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> Marino use to win games 40 to 42
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> It doesnt matter how the defense plays if we would
> had score 40 points against dallas we win game.
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> The point is on offense we arent scoring over 20
> points a game....Can't win like that...
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> It all starts with the qb.....Need to score to
> win...>We have an anemic offense.
Geez, Sam. RT is not Marino. There have been very few Marino's in the history of the league. He is one-of-a-kind. Let's get out of the past and wishing upon a star. RT is what he is. Griese can't be considered a Marino, either, but he is in the HOF. Griese is no better than RT, except for his generalship, which RT is not allowed to use. Griese had a lot of talent around him. How many of Griese's OL are in the HOF and the one's that aren't how many should be? He had a FB who is in the HOF. He had a WR who is in the HOF. He also had some defenders who are in the HOF.
RT is a QB who needs talent around him, on both sides of the ball, and a coaching staff that knows what the hell they are doing. Who did Griese have as a HC after his first couple of years in the league? That's right, the winningest HC in the NFL. They were together for all those playoff years and Super Bowls. RT hasn't had anything even close to that.
I'm not saying that if RT had a Shula-type HC that he would be in the SB, I'm just saying that he would have more of a chance.
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> supposedly we got weapons to fit tannehills
> strengths and we're scoring less.
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> you can only make so many excuses for his mediocre
> play.
Supposedly? Yeah.....and Supposedly those same people put together the defense of death that's turning out to suck like a Kardashian at a Knick game. These are not excuses, these are the very same FACTS used over and over because this Team refuses to address them. And you know what? They kid still puts up decent numbers. But the defense blows 1st down after first down on 3rd and long and you want to shrug it all off. Despite the amount of money used that could be helping the offensive line.
You Ryan Tannehill haters don't have a clue of how good you actually got it. Hows Luck doing? Oh thats right injured after throwing more INT's then Mark Sanchez. Hows Robert Griffin III? Oh thats right hes 3 rd stringer. But Sam Sam wants to complain that we didn't draft Aaron Rodgers now. You people need to get your heads screwed on straight. If the defense played as advertised, we would have won easily.
tcpf wrote: If the defense played as advertised, we would have won easily.
LOL....Yeah they allowed only 17 points only against dallas......But the way the phins offense is playing we would have to pitch a shutout every single time to have a shot of winning.
samsam3738 Wrote:
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> tcpf quote: You Ryan Tannehill haters don't have
> a clue of how good you actually got it.
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> Yeah we got it real good. 4 and 6 and almost out
> of the playoffs by midseason.
Defense gave up more AND ,pay attention sam.....LOST the amount of possession .Homo worked them and played them like a guitar.
samsam3738 Wrote:
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> But still allowed only 17 points....
> Any decent offense would had beat that score.
Ok. Bad /new coaching, calling of plays? OLINE? Blocking from everyone New recievers? None of that rings a bell? Only play on offense playing consistent good football is Jarvis Landry .
TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
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> samsam3738 Wrote:
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> > But still allowed only 17 points....
> > Any decent offense would had beat that score.
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> Ok. Bad /new coaching, calling of plays? OLINE?
> Blocking from everyone New recievers? None of
> that rings a bell? Only play on offense playing
> consistent good football is Jarvis Landry .