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Re: Patriots being investigated for cheating--AGAIN
Posted by: jimmmyd3 ()
Date: January 22, 2015 01:38PM

THE Truth Wrote:
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> samsam3738 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Every ball should be provided by the league and
> > they wouldn't have those problems.
>
>
> That's what's going to happen going forward Sam.
> They might still let teams break them in, but they
> are going to take control of them at some point
> under lock and key.

While where at it Make every police officer black and we wouldn't have
any more Ferguson . Right? Rules are Rules - Just punish Teams when the rules are broken!

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Re: Patriots being investigated for cheating--AGAIN
Posted by: THE Truth ()
Date: January 22, 2015 03:11PM


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Re: Patriots being investigated for cheating--AGAIN
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: January 22, 2015 03:33PM

He could be saying that an extreme and ridiculous solution to what happened in Ferguson would be to make all police officers Black instead of doing the simple thing which would be to punish Officer Nelson.

But he can speak for himself.

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Re: Patriots being investigated for cheating--AGAIN
Posted by: mizzou15 ()
Date: January 23, 2015 02:50AM

I didn't by Belichicks or Brady's explanations. A nfl HC is like the captain of a navy ship, he knows how each department of that ship functions, he knows the rules for each department. Belichick knows the process for the pre game handling of the balls he was lying. Everybody knows Brady didn't deflate the balls. He was saying nothing by stating that. What he would not say was did he have anything to do with having the balls deflated. He could not answer the question 'was he a cheater' w/out hesitation.

Yeah I think Belichick should be suspended for a year. The Pats should be docked a 1st and a 4th 2015 picks. If Brady is linked to this he should serve some suspension too. There is something rotten in NE and the NFL should hit them hard. Its time.

I even gave Belichick the benefit of the doubt when Shula recently called him Bellicheat. Shula was just calling a spade a spade. Don't ever go against the skipper.

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Re: Patriots being investigated for cheating--AGAIN
Posted by: JoeFootball ()
Date: January 23, 2015 03:42AM


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Re: Patriots being investigated for cheating--AGAIN
Posted by: cshashaty ()
Date: January 23, 2015 03:43AM

mizzou15 Wrote:
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> I even gave Belichick the benefit of the doubt
> when Shula recently called him Bellicheat. Shula
> was just calling a spade a spade. Don't ever go
> against the skipper.


"You're in the express checkout lane, limit ten items.
You have eleven items.
Running the cash register is Don Shula."
--Dave Barry

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Re: Patriots being investigated for cheating--AGAIN
Posted by: KB ()
Date: January 23, 2015 04:23AM


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Re: Patriots being investigated for cheating--AGAIN
Posted by: mizzou15 ()
Date: January 23, 2015 04:49AM

cshashaty Wrote:
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> mizzou15 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I even gave Belichick the benefit of the doubt
> > when Shula recently called him Bellicheat.
> Shula
> > was just calling a spade a spade. Don't ever go
> > against the skipper.
>
>
> "You're in the express checkout lane, limit ten
> items.
> You have eleven items.
> Running the cash register is Don Shula."
> --Dave Barry

At my age I should have known better. A guy could lose his Phin Fan card over something like that.

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Re: Patriots being investigated for cheating--AGAIN
Posted by: cshashaty ()
Date: January 23, 2015 05:45AM

mizzou15 Wrote:
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> At my age I should have known better. A guy could
> lose his Phin Fan card over something like that.


winking smiley

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Re: Patriots being investigated for cheating--AGAIN
Posted by: BigNastyFish ()
Date: January 23, 2015 06:04PM

THE Truth Wrote:
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> I think that when all this comes out we are going
> to find out that they have been pulling this bait
> and switch on game balls for YEARS.
>
> Lots of talk out there about Belicheat being
> suspended from the Super Bowl so the league
> doesn't have to deal with the embarrassment during
> Super Bowl week.
>
> I don't see how you do that and still let Brady
> play.
>
> There's no way an equipment guy and/or Belicheat
> did this without Brady signing off on it.
>
>
> Goodell has a chance here to wash some of the mud
> off his reputation by hammering a coach and a
> franchise who have thumbed their collective noses
> at the rules everyone else seems to play by.
>
> If I were him I'd suspend Belicheat immediately,
> and through the end of the 2015 league year and
> fine him whatever his salary would be for that 14
> month period.
>
> I'd suspend Brady for the Super Bowl and fine him
> $5million.
>
> I'd strip the Patriots of all 7 of their allotted
> picks, and any compensatory picks they are
> eligible for, in the 2015 NFL draft and I'd fine
> Kraft $10 million.
>
> I'd also announce that a third infraction by
> Belichick, or the Patriots franchise will result
> in lifetime bans from the sport for anyone
> involved.

Wowser! I for one cannot disagree with one word.

I'll vote for this.

Where do I sign.

Best post of 2015.

My opinion. Of course.

BNF.

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Re: Patriots being investigated for cheating--AGAIN
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: January 23, 2015 07:31PM

Yeah, and write into the NFL rulebook that any such magnitude of an infraction by any team in the future will result in the forfeiture of that game. And also implement the above change that from now on, all game balls will be provided by the NFL and will be tested after each quarter.

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Re: Patriots being investigated for cheating--AGAIN
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: January 25, 2015 01:23PM


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Re: Patriots being investigated for cheating--AGAIN
Posted by: cshashaty ()
Date: January 26, 2015 11:57AM

Today Jay Glazer of Fox Sports is reporting that the NFL is locked onto a member of the Patriots equipment staff, a locker room attendant if you will, who took the footballs after officials inspected them into a separate room. If he indeed altered them, which is what it looks like the NFL is locking onto IMO, then he had orders from above.

I still don't think Roger Goodell has the balls (pardon the pun) to suspend anyone on the Pats for the SB, forget disqualifying the team. I expect penalties to come after the game is played. The proverbial "slap on the hand".

Meanwhile, Neil Tyson (COSMOS astrophysicist) has joined Bill Nye in basically saying Bill Belichick's scientific assertions are full of crap.



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Re: Patriots being investigated for cheating--AGAIN
Posted by: THE Truth ()
Date: January 26, 2015 12:25PM

cshashaty Wrote:
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> Today Jay Glazer of Fox Sports is reporting that
> the NFL is locked onto a member of the Patriots
> equipment staff, a locker room attendant if you
> will, who took the footballs after officials
> inspected them into a separate room. If he indeed
> altered them, which is what it looks like the NFL
> is locking onto IMO, then he had orders from
> above.
>
> I still don't think Roger Goodell has the balls
> (pardon the pun) to suspend anyone on the Pats for
> the SB, forget disqualifying the team. I expect
> penalties to come after the game is played. The
> proverbial "slap on the hand".
>
> Meanwhile, Neil Tyson (COSMOS astrophysicist) has
> joined Bill Nye in basically saying Bill
> Belichick's scientific assertions are full of
> crap.

He has to suspend them. Belichick's press conference Saturday will force his hand, or at least it should.

You can't stand up there and say nobody in your organization new anything about it and blame it on bullshit like atmospherics and not get hammered when its clear someone in your organization did it.

I'm sure the lowly grunt is a lifetime patriot fan and will be more than glad to fall on his sword and take all the blame, but that would be even more insulting to the league and its fans. There's no way any pats fan in the world is going to take it on himself to deflate Brady's game day footballs in the hopes that he likes it. And there's no way the Pats are letting a Bills, Jets or Dolphins fan handle game day equipment...but even if they did...as the league told the Saints when they HAMMERED their head coach and GM..."ignorance is no excuse."

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Re: Patriots being investigated for cheating--AGAIN
Posted by: jsm08 ()
Date: January 26, 2015 01:37PM

It's going to be 41 tonight in orlando so I'm going to inflate my Wilson NFL ball to 12.5 psi and set it outside. I'll throw it in the pool first to simulate game conditions that fateful night.

When the alarm rings at 5am I will measure the pressure.

That, my friends, is science!

Stay tuned!

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Re: Patriots being investigated for cheating--AGAIN
Posted by: THE Truth ()
Date: January 26, 2015 02:40PM

jsm08 Wrote:
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> It's going to be 41 tonight in orlando so I'm
> going to inflate my Wilson NFL ball to 12.5 psi
> and set it outside. I'll throw it in the pool
> first to simulate game conditions that fateful
> night.
>
> When the alarm rings at 5am I will measure the
> pressure.
>
> That, my friends, is science!
>
> Stay tuned!



41...ahhhh...souns like summer... smiling smiley

or the number of inches of snow I'm supposed to get in the next 24 hours. sad smiley

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Re: Patriots being investigated for cheating--AGAIN
Posted by: angryseasphins ()
Date: January 26, 2015 04:34PM

I may do the same jsm08 and in april when i find it again efter the dumpling we are going to get tonite i will let you know my findings

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Re: Patriots being investigated for cheating--AGAIN
Posted by: BigNastyFish ()
Date: January 27, 2015 07:02AM

All this crap is another good reason to tell the N-F-L and its greedy owners to go *Mod Edit* themselves.

I'm watching women's volleyball from here on out.

End of story. There is no glory.

BNF.



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Re: Patriots being investigated for cheating--AGAIN
Posted by: Dolfan1976 ()
Date: January 27, 2015 07:18AM


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Re: Patriots being investigated for cheating--AGAIN
Posted by: JC ()
Date: January 27, 2015 07:20AM

jsm08 Wrote:
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> It's going to be 41 tonight in orlando so I'm
> going to inflate my Wilson NFL ball to 12.5 psi
> and set it outside. I'll throw it in the pool
> first to simulate game conditions that fateful
> night.
>
> When the alarm rings at 5am I will measure the
> pressure.
>
> That, my friends, is science!
>
> Stay tuned!


Don't forget to get your neighbor across the street to do the same exact experiment. That way when his football's PSI remains the same while yours drops, you'll have proven the Pats innocence!

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Re: Patriots being investigated for cheating--AGAIN
Posted by: JC ()
Date: January 27, 2015 07:24AM

Kraft was just on the news last night demanding an apology from the NFL. That's just funny. Although the way the NFL kisses the collective rear end of that organization, I wouldn't be surprised if it actually happened.

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Re: Patriots being investigated for cheating--AGAIN
Posted by: BigNastyFish ()
Date: January 27, 2015 07:35AM

Yea, the Kraft obviously has some nasty leverage on the league -- being so fully invested in cheating and fixing outcomes to benefit the marketplace and certain owners with agendas outside of football...

The vastness of the money is only transcended by the corruption.

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Re: Patriots being investigated for cheating--AGAIN
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: January 27, 2015 09:47AM


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Re: Patriots being investigated for cheating--AGAIN
Posted by: dolfan1 ()
Date: February 03, 2015 06:47AM

It wont matter they won the SB and will be back in the hunt next season. Until Brady and Bellacheat leave they will continue to own our division. It is what it is. sad smiley

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Re: Patriots being investigated for cheating--AGAIN
Posted by: dolphaholic ()
Date: February 03, 2015 07:04AM

( image removed...for 'holic's own good)

.......as he types this



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Re: Patriots being investigated for cheating--AGAIN
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: February 03, 2015 08:00AM

ROTFLMAO

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Re: Patriots being investigated for cheating--AGAIN
Posted by: JC ()
Date: February 03, 2015 05:12PM


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Re: Patriots being investigated for cheating--AGAIN
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: February 06, 2015 11:17AM


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Re: Patriots being investigated for cheating--AGAIN
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: February 06, 2015 11:42AM


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Re: Patriots being investigated for cheating--AGAIN
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: February 09, 2015 03:45AM

I agree with that chren.

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