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Philbin is a disaster!!!
Posted by: socalphin ()
Date: December 28, 2014 03:34PM

I can't believe we're bringing this numbnut back for another underwhelming season!

I have absolutely no hope for next season. It's just going to be another replay of this season. Missing the playoffs again. There's no doubt about it!

But of coarse Ryan Tannehill will be retained because he completed 67% of his passes. Most of which were 8 yds or less.
My wish would be to trade him to Tampa for their #1 pick.
C'mon Hickey! Pull some strings!!

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Re: Philbin is a disaster!!!
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: December 28, 2014 03:49PM

Yeah, the people on this board act like Philbin is Shula and Tannehill is Marino (I would have said Griese but just today I learned on this board that that HALL OF FAME QB was really not that good according to one poster that I really respect).

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Re: Philbin is a disaster!!!
Posted by: JoeFootball ()
Date: December 28, 2014 04:41PM

I never said he was not really good.... or that Tannehill is Marino or that Philbin is Shula.

BUT

Tannehill's future is bright. Philbin is here whether or not anyone likes it or how many thousands of posts they create to sound off about how bad he is and how much the Dolphins suck.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/28/2014 04:43PM by JoeFootball.

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Re: Philbin is a disaster!!!
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: December 28, 2014 07:38PM


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Re: Philbin is a disaster!!!
Posted by: jsm08 ()
Date: December 29, 2014 02:39AM

Cam Cameron was a disaster. Philbin is average.

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Re: Philbin is a disaster!!!
Posted by: colonel ()
Date: December 29, 2014 03:34AM

Average doesn't earn a championship. Philbin is what his w/l record exposes--about average. The Dolphins organization is about average too. Nothing special to write home to mom about.

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Re: Philbin is a disaster!!!
Posted by: dolphaholic ()
Date: December 29, 2014 03:52AM

Philbin is average at best.....but as a life long fan, the only thing I can hang my hopes on are what happened in Dallas this year, Jerry stuck with Jason Garrett and with improved play from his o-line, it seems to of paid off. The ball is in Hickey's court now......in the words of the great Big Black "DO WORK SON"

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Re: Philbin is a disaster!!!
Posted by: JoeFootball ()
Date: December 29, 2014 05:32AM

Just shows how important it is to have a good o-line in the NFL. Same could be said for Defense. Look at Detroit and Buffalo. The front four is making the entire team better.

That's why we should sign a top LG and draft another G/T high.

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Re: Philbin is a disaster!!!
Posted by: THE Truth ()
Date: December 29, 2014 06:28AM

JoeFootball Wrote:
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> Just shows how important it is to have a good
> o-line in the NFL. Same could be said for Defense.
> Look at Detroit and Buffalo. The front four is
> making the entire team better.
>
> That's why we should sign a top LG and draft
> another G/T high.


I think Billy Turner is one of the guards next year.

He played a bit yesterday when James got the stinger.

He looked the part, and played well. If he knows the assignments he's going to play next year.

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Re: Philbin is a disaster!!!
Posted by: JoeFootball ()
Date: December 29, 2014 07:26AM

That would help but as of today he is just following in DT's footsteps.

Although he did grade higher than Dallas Thomas did in any game in his limited 17 snaps. PFF shows him as playing RT with a grade of +.9. pretty sad DT never even got that high.

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Re: Philbin is a disaster!!!
Posted by: dolfan1 ()
Date: December 29, 2014 07:36AM

Remember Ross could really care less as the franchise still makes money. Get mediocre 8-8 seasons and still earn boat loads of cash.

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Re: Philbin is a disaster!!!
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: December 29, 2014 07:39AM

Joe,

I like you. I always have. I was young and stupid a few years back, but I've wise-up over the years. I didn't catch it the first time.

This time, I did.

You've always been my boy. thumbs up

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"When you suck long enough, you get a Hickey"

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Re: Philbin is a disaster!!!
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: December 29, 2014 07:41AM

dolphaholic Wrote:
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> Philbin is average at best.....but as a life long
> fan, the only thing I can hang my hopes on are
> what happened in Dallas this year, Jerry stuck
> with Jason Garrett and with improved play from his
> o-line, it seems to of paid off. The ball is in
> Hickey's court now......in the words of the great
> Big Black "DO WORK SON"


&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
The major difference between them and us though, is they have two elite passing weapons and one of them just so happens to be the best WR in the game.

Phins don't have any where near the skill position players the Cowboys had.

We could have had Dez, but Ireland cared too much about his momma.

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"When you suck long enough, you get a Hickey"

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Re: Philbin is a disaster!!!
Posted by: JoeFootball ()
Date: December 29, 2014 07:51AM

In all fairness, Miami didn't have the gumption (or resources) to babysit Dez the way Jerry Jones has for the last 4 years. I look for him to get a big contract and self destruct.

You see the difference in Romo this year? (114 QB rating) What's the one difference? He's always had top receivers.

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Re: Philbin is a disaster!!!
Posted by: dolphaholic ()
Date: December 29, 2014 07:54AM

I get it Aqua, but i'm not gonna give up on next year already, so it's something to hang my hat on. Philbin's not going anywhere, so you either try to find a sliver of hope or go away, it's that simple really.

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Re: Philbin is a disaster!!!
Posted by: jsm08 ()
Date: December 29, 2014 08:05AM

I think committing to the run and Murray getting nearly 2000 yards helped romo a lot too.

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Re: Philbin is a disaster!!!
Posted by: JoeFootball ()
Date: December 29, 2014 08:17AM

That was a pretty easy commitment to make when your QB is heavily scrutinized (for choking) and your line turns into the best in football...

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Re: Philbin is a disaster!!!
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: December 29, 2014 08:21AM

But that's my point though, they had the skill positions, they just finally attempted to get the OL right and it all came together.

Unfortunately, the Phins don't have the OL or the skill positions.

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"When you suck long enough, you get a Hickey"

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Re: Philbin is a disaster!!!
Posted by: KB ()
Date: December 29, 2014 08:35AM

Yea, The QB has NOTHING to do with it, IT'S all ABOUT THE OFFENSIVE LINE...I mean, WHAT is New England gonna do?!?!?!? Obviously Garappollo is a GREAT young QB with unlimited potential...Maybe the next Elway. But he can't play if he's running for his life, thats why he got sacked what 5 times and only threw for 90 yards yesterday!!! Somebody tell Belicheck all he needs to do is spend half his first round picks for the next 10 years on the O Line and Garappolo will win him more rings than that other guy...hey it has worked for us right??? eye rolling smiley

The freakin' Phins have followed this logic since Wanny!!! IN TEN YEARS we have spent FOUR of our first round picks on OLine, including our ONLY #1 OVERALL SINCE 1966!!! In that time we are 74-102 (.420), have had only TWO winning seasons, been to the playoffs ONCE and won EXACTLY ZERO playy off games!!!

STOP the MADNESS!!! FIND SOME PLAYMAKERS!!! This is NOT 1970! It doesn't all have to 'Start in the trenches'!!! ARGGG!!!

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Re: Philbin is a disaster!!!
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: December 29, 2014 08:43AM

The guy (KB ) is making sense.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/29/2014 08:44AM by ChyrenB.

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Re: Philbin is a disaster!!!
Posted by: JoeFootball ()
Date: December 29, 2014 09:11AM


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Re: Philbin is a disaster!!!
Posted by: colonel ()
Date: December 29, 2014 09:21AM


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Re: Philbin is a disaster!!!
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: December 29, 2014 09:24AM


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Re: Philbin is a disaster!!!
Posted by: dolphin ()
Date: December 29, 2014 09:58AM

colonel Wrote:
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> FIND SOME PLAYMAKERS!!!
>
> Are you talking about via draft or free agency, or
> both? Landry and James were good draft picks and
> they both played extremely well for rookies. Is
> this what you're talking about? If so, Hickey did
> a good job getting them. We need more of the
> same. Regarding FA, we did alright finding talent
> with Brandon Albert and Knowshon Moreno.
> Unfortunately, IR became their place of residence.
> Both played well--hopefully Albert will return.
> Moreno seems injury prone--not a good risk.
> Wallace should have been a bigger player for us
> than what we've seen. I'll bet if he is replaced,
> he'll excel somewhere else. Miller seems to be
> running harder and reached 1000 yds for the first
> time. He's improved even with our make-shift front
> line.
>
> Your thoughts KB?


We have playmakers on offense. Landry, Miller, Clay, Wallace.

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Re: Philbin is a disaster!!!
Posted by: captkoi ()
Date: December 29, 2014 12:27PM

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> JoeFootball Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I never said he was not really good....
>
> Well, thank you but he IS in the Hall of Fame.
>
> Hey, some of you ole timers, please Hip Joe
> Football to me and Bob Griese and why by
> disrespecting Griese like that he's got the Irish
> in me from my slave master great great grandfather
> James Patterson up.

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I'm one of the old timers, Chyren, but I'm not real clear on what you are asking.

Be glad to help you out, tho.

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Re: Philbin is a disaster!!!
Posted by: captkoi ()
Date: December 29, 2014 12:35PM

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> When are people going to realize that it is a team
> sport? you don't get very far for very long
> without having as close to a complete team as
> possible.
>
> Sounds to me like a prescription to except
> mediocrity over and over and over again by saying
> that if we don't have ALL the parts of a team that
> is number one in all categories from owner of the
> franchise to the waterboy, then poor performance
> can always be excused or explained by looking at
> other sub-parts of the organization.
>
> We went to the SuperBowl with David Woodley as I
> sat in the stands of the Rose Bowl and watch him
> be unable to complete a single pass in the second
> half but we still would have won the game had Joe
> Theisman not pulled that endzone interception out
> of the grasp of Kim Bokamper.

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Theisman or...if DB McNeil didn't have a broken arm he could have (probably) brought down Riggins.

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Posted by: KB ()
Date: December 29, 2014 12:44PM


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Date: December 29, 2014 01:00PM


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Date: December 29, 2014 01:07PM


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Re: Philbin is a disaster!!!
Posted by: colonel ()
Date: December 29, 2014 01:22PM

KB--I stated that Hickey did a good job picking Landry and James...just an alright job picking Albert and Moreno. (The alright was based on their prior injuries, yet they were good players--both a risk--as it was confirmed when both went down and landed on IR).

As for Miller, I didn't believe he could blossom. He has behind our O-line. Run blocking appears to be acceptable with the players we have working right now. Whereas, the pass blocking and handling the rush seems to be their Achilles Heel. As I recall, we did pretty well with the rush with Albert at LT and rookie James at RT.

Based on Albert's injury, would you want him back on the team next season or opt to get another LT, one who is as good with no known major injuries? What about the guard positions? What are your thoughts there? What about Satele? He played C all 16 games. Keep him? Could he be a back-up for Pouncey at C?

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