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Re: Their has been much debate about keeping Tannehill
Posted by: Sickofit+1 ()
Date: January 02, 2014 04:16PM

That is not even calculating the retarted play calling, and horrid oline and Mr dish rag personality Philben as HC.

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Re: Their has been much debate about keeping Tannehill
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: January 02, 2014 05:25PM

Well, you certainly beat around the bush when expressing your opinion, sickofit+1.

psst retarDed. Kinda ironical to misspell that word.

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Re: Their has been much debate about keeping Tannehill
Posted by: jlyell13 ()
Date: January 02, 2014 05:33PM

Sickofit+1 I hope you are right, I for one would love this to happen and for him to prove me wrong instead of us finding out in a year he is Chad Henne, Tony Romo or Matt Schaub that can't win the big game

He did play well in our wins against playoff teams, just can't stink it up against the crappy ones. Good QB's overcome adversity

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Re: Their has been much debate about keeping Tannehill
Date: January 02, 2014 05:42PM

Ryan Tannehill be be a Top 3 QB in this league and win a Ring. Depends if this Owner will grow some balls and give him what he needs to succeed.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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Re: Their has been much debate about keeping Tannehill
Posted by: Finshady ()
Date: January 03, 2014 06:36AM

Hey I am still convinced that Tanne is better suited to play wide receiver, as that may benefit this team even more. Their are too many good QB's as too not take another in the draft then we will see what happens.

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Re: Their has been much debate about keeping Tannehill
Posted by: Sickofit+1 ()
Date: January 03, 2014 10:39AM

Finshady Wrote:
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> Hey I am still convinced that Tanne is better
> suited to play wide receiver, as that may benefit
> this team even more. Their are too many good QB's
> as too not take another in the draft then we will
> see what happens.


Wow people actually think this? I try not to get upset when I read such garbage. I mean I understand RT isn't perfect but if this is your way of venting from another amazing season then please write it then erase it, because it just makes you look well wow.

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Re: Their has been much debate about keeping Tannehill
Posted by: captkoi ()
Date: January 03, 2014 04:01PM

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> Tannehill IS INDEED A FRANCHISE
> QUARTERBACK!!!!!!!!!!
>
> But so is Andy Dalton, Matt Ryan, and Nick Foles.
>
>
> Now let's stop talking bullsh*t and get down to
> reality. Are you satisfied with the above three?
>
>
> It's legitimate to answer "yes" but be advised
> that that's all you will get with Tanny. They are
> grade B quarterbacks but not Rodgers, Brees,
> Mannings plural or Brady. Neither will Tanny be.
>
> My one CAVEAT (let berk explain that word to you)
> is that if Tanny is utilized in a way that
> compliments his skills instead of trying to learn
> to make him into something that he is not, then he
> might be a grade A quarterback instead of a grade
> B quarterback.
>
> You guys WHINE ABOUT THE LACK OF PASS PROTECTION.
> It is true that those statistics were awful prior
> to bullygate.
>
> but after bullygate, with the legitimate exception
> of the Buffalo game, Tanny only got sacked when he
> held the ball too long.
>
> go back and watch the Jets game and come back and
> tell me his sacks were due to insufficient time.

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It would be great if this would be the last subject concerning ousting Tanneyhill, but I am sure it will not be.

Now, we must all get in the real world. Tanney is not the problem. Miami MUST, and I repeat, MUST get an offensive line. What we have at present is basically a bunch of back ups. McKinnie improved the line, somewhat, but he didn't do much better than the rest of them. Clabo improved after his benching, but even that was nothing to write home about. Oline, Oline, Oline!

Then on defense -- ILB,at least one CB, and one safety.

I haven't, in any of my posts (that I can remember), mentioned this, but Miami needs a new kick returner that can get more than a 20 yard KO return, and more than 4 yards punt return.

Get all that fixed, and RT will do just fine and the talk of getting rid of him will quit, unless he doesn't pass for 5,000 yards and 40 TDs, then I guess he is just not good enough.

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Re: Their has been much debate about keeping Tannehill
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: January 03, 2014 04:28PM


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Re: Their has been much debate about keeping Tannehill
Posted by: captkoi ()
Date: January 03, 2014 04:33PM

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> captkoi Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> >
> > It would be great if this would be the last
> > subject concerning ousting Tanneyhill, but I am
> > sure it will not be.
> >
> > Now, we must all get in the real world. Tanney
> is
> > not the problem.
>
> I agree. See the below.
>
>
> >Miami MUST, and I repeat, MUST
> > get an offensive line. What we have at present
> is
> > basically a bunch of back ups. McKinnie
> improved
> > the line, somewhat, but he didn't do much
> better
> > than the rest of them. Clabo improved after his
> > benching, but even that was nothing to write
> home
> > about. Oline, Oline, Oline!
> >
> > Then on defense -- ILB,at least one CB, and one
> > safety.
> >
>
> Cap. I hope you did not misinterpret me to be
> saying that Tanny IS the problem.
>
> Hell, Tanny is our ONLY offense.
>
> We got no damn running game. So he has to have
> gotten us as far as we went this year.
>
> All I am saying is that he is a grade B
> quarterback but we went to the Super Bowl with
> DAVID WOODLEY, A QUARTERBACK FAR WORSE THAN Ryan
> Tannehill and we lost that SuperBowl because
> Woodley DID NOT COMPLETE A SINGLE PASS IN THE
> SECOND HALF. Not a damn one.
>
>
>
> You can't say that about Tanny. All I am really
> saying is that Tannehill's skill sets are being
> wrongly used.
>
> But when I say that, I get all kinda snide Flack
> about the Read Option and whether Russell Wilson
> really uses it and about how RGIII is getting
> killed and do I want Tanny to get killed like
> that?
>
>
> > I haven't, in any of my posts (that I can
> > remember), mentioned this, but Miami needs a
> new
> > kick returner that can get more than a 20 yard
> KO
> > return, and more than 4 yards punt return.
>
> I dislike Thigpen's DECISION MAKING far more than
> I question his talents.
>
> I've seen him DO THE SILLIEST THINGS. I've seen
> the ball coming at him at the speed of 1,000 Miles
> per hour and him catch it at the six only to be
> tackled at the seven yard line when he should have
> simply let the ball go back into the endzone.
> I've seen him do it time and time again and no one
> apparently has corrected him on it.
>
> Other times, he's had the whole field in front of
> him and he fair catches the ball, the lucky times
> in the endzone, the unlucky times when he is
> standing on the 6 yard line. Yeah....that too.
> Either he tries to run from the 6 or fair catches
> at the 6 with the same result.....we start from
> the six.
>
> Why isn't that coaching?
>
> I think these guys lapse into BAD HABITS that
> their high school and college coaches have broken
> them of and Philbin and company don't realize that
> EVEN AT THE PRO LEVEL, you have to reinforce the
> basics.
>
> However, Philbin and the coordinators don't
> correct them because LIKE MOST OF THE POSTERS ON
> THIS BOARD THEY Just say, "He's a pro. He SHOULD
> KNOW BETTER."
>
> That's true and the coaches aren't to blame WHEN
> IT HAPPENS ONE ISOLATED TIME but when the damn
> fool does it over and over and over again, the
> damn fool coaches need to correct it.
>
>
> > Get all that fixed, and RT will do just fine
> and
> > the talk of getting rid of him will quit,
> unless
> > he doesn't pass for 5,000 yards and 40 TDs, then
> I
> > guess he is just not good enough.
>
> Like I say above, if we can go to the SuperBowl
> with David Woodley, we can go with Tanny AND WIN!
> The New England game and the four other wins over
> Playoff teams prove that.
>
> However, is that enough to prevent us from taking
> a 3rd round QB????
>
> I mean honestly, did aging Matt Moore show you
> what you want on this team if Tanny goes done with
> a career ending injury???? What about just a
> season ending injury in about the third game of
> next season??????
>
> Also drafting linemen in the first round is not
> always a guarantee...if it is....why hasn't Dion
> Jordan seen the field more?

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My statement wasn't aimed at you, Chryen, it was aimed at the whole board. This board needs to face the facts -- RT isn't going anywhere.

And I am already on board as far as drafting another QB to give RT competition, just not before the middle rounds, unless a sure-fire super star is there for the taking.

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Re: Their has been much debate about keeping Tannehill
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: January 03, 2014 04:43PM

Sickofit+1 Wrote:
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> When Tanny turns in 4k plus yardage next year and
> hits more on his deep passes, I would really like
> it if all you non believers will punch your face
> hard. That is all I ask.

LOL. Just for you. I'll punch myself real hard. LOL. Because....as you know....all I wanna do is "right by you" Sickofit.


Guy only has three half
> years starting qb since high school and he is top
> 15 in pros out of 32 starting. Your an idiot to
> debate this. Simply mind blowing idiot.

So you're not sickof the QB play???? Is that coming through to me? LOL.

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Re: Their has been much debate about keeping Tannehill
Posted by: Finshady ()
Date: January 04, 2014 09:22AM

Hey what is this about punching someone in the face. Question is
Tannehill better than Marino? That answer is not only no, but hell no. Those of us fans that like QB play, and understand just how important their play is. We would like too see a player like Marino under center. It does not take a genius too figure out that the team with the best QB usually wins NFL games. With all else being equal. The QB makes all the difference between winning, and losing. Our starting QB the last two years 15-17. That does not cut it folks so it's time too find his replacement.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/04/2014 09:25AM by Finshady.

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Re: Their has been much debate about keeping Tannehill
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: January 04, 2014 11:24AM

Hey sickofit+1, for the last twelve hours I have been trying to punch myself............problem is I keep missing myself. LOL.

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Re: Their has been much debate about keeping Tannehill
Posted by: Finshady ()
Date: January 04, 2014 12:35PM

Hey Chyren do you want a QB like Marino, Manning, Brady Rodgers,
Brees you get the picture. Why settle for Tannehill when an elite QB is so much better? Jusk asking that's all.

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Re: Their has been much debate about keeping Tannehill
Posted by: THE Truth ()
Date: January 04, 2014 12:38PM

Finshady Wrote:
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> Hey Chyren do you want a QB like Marino, Manning,
> Brady Rodgers,
> Brees you get the picture. Why settle for
> Tannehill when an elite QB is so much better?
> Jusk asking that's all.


There are maybe 5 Hall of Fame level QB's in the league at any given point.


Where are you planning on getting one in the next 6 months?

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Re: Their has been much debate about keeping Tannehill
Posted by: Sickofit+1 ()
Date: January 04, 2014 12:39PM

Lol wel how old are you chrynb ur slow and can see it comming. Lol phinshady ur hopeless.

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Re: Their has been much debate about keeping Tannehill
Posted by: Finshady ()
Date: January 04, 2014 01:35PM

Hey sickofit stop attacking me for my opinion. I happen to believe that Tannehill is useless as a starting QB, and you laugh no wonder were out of the playoffs.

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Re: Their has been much debate about keeping Tannehill
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: January 04, 2014 01:41PM

Sickofit+1 Wrote:
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> Lol wel how old are you chrynb ur slow and can see
> it comming. Lol phinshady ur hopeless.

When I was a teenager in the Sixties, my uncle told this and swore it was a true story. He said that a friend of his used to argue with his wife and the friend always threatened his wife that he was going to shoot himself.

The guy did it so much that the wife got used to ignoring him. The guy would always go to the backyard and come back in later.

One time however, after he said it and while the wife was relaxing watching TV in the front room, she heard a shot come from the back.

"OH MY GOD" she shouted and rushed to the back until oddly, she heard a second shot...and then a third.... and then she heard her husband yell, "Wife? I'm out here missing myself!"

That's where I got that from.

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Re: Their has been much debate about keeping Tannehill
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: January 04, 2014 02:19PM

SamSam, Just saw Alex Smith overthrow a wide open receiver on a deep pattern who had beaten his cover guy. It's not just arm strength.

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Re: Their has been much debate about keeping Tannehill
Posted by: Finshady ()
Date: January 04, 2014 03:49PM

If Tannehill could develop maybe we could be good. I am tired of waiting the Colts made the playoffs twice in a row. I wonder why?

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Re: Their has been much debate about keeping Tannehill
Posted by: Sickofit+1 ()
Date: January 04, 2014 09:54PM

Good play calling. They have awsome offensive plays. They can not win the sb with the team and lack of talent they have but good enough and well enough coached to be a playoff team.

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Re: Their has been much debate about keeping Tannehill
Posted by: Sickofit+1 ()
Date: January 04, 2014 09:56PM

Fine, stop attacking my QB then.

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Re: Their has been much debate about keeping Tannehill
Date: January 05, 2014 01:16AM

I love Dan Marino. I named my first born Daniel after him. However I do not want another Dan Marino. best pure passer to ever play the game. Didn't get us to the promised land.

Starts with coaching, right players , chemistry. Tanny has the Tools, the athleticism, the Raw talent. But we need someone to give him what he needs to succeed. Bottom line.

Too many dropped balls. Too many horrible plays called. maybe Tanny needs to coached how to count off. Andrew Luck or Manning wouldn't succeed here under this staff.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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Re: Their has been much debate about keeping Tannehill
Posted by: dolfan1 ()
Date: January 05, 2014 11:28AM

One of the reasons I was a huge proponent to suck for luck, now you see why. I rather be shitty for awhile to build around an elite QB. We will just be mediocre it's just reality.

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Re: Their has been much debate about keeping Tannehill
Posted by: THE Truth ()
Date: January 05, 2014 11:33AM

dolfan1 Wrote:
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> One of the reasons I was a huge proponent to suck
> for luck, now you see why. I rather be shitty for
> awhile to build around an elite QB. We will just
> be mediocre it's just reality.


I've been arguing that point on this site for a decade.

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Re: Their has been much debate about keeping Tannehill
Posted by: eesti ()
Date: January 05, 2014 11:46AM

To suck for luck? or build around Tannehill? confused smiley

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“I'm here" You're welcome!" - Kenny Powers

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Re: Their has been much debate about keeping Tannehill
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: January 05, 2014 12:24PM

THE Truth Wrote:
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> dolfan1 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > One of the reasons I was a huge proponent to
> suck
> > for luck, now you see why. I rather be shitty
> for
> > awhile to build around an elite QB. We will
> just
> > be mediocre it's just reality.
>
>
> I've been arguing that point on this site for a
> decade.

but hey, don't you all remember that glorious run at the end of 2011 when we beat the bills and such to rack up some meaningless wins and fall to the 8th pick? those wins were so great!!

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Re: Their has been much debate about keeping Tannehill
Posted by: Finshady ()
Date: January 05, 2014 01:27PM

Their was much debate on this board about drafting either Luck or Griffin 1st in the draft 2 years ago. It seems laughable now about how dumb that debate was. Griffin went on a me 1st world wind tour, and Luck actually stayed out of the lime light. I wish Tannehill could play like Luck. Maybe he will, but only time will tell. I hope that I am wrong about Tanne.

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Re: Their has been much debate about keeping Tannehill
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: January 05, 2014 01:36PM

I don't think there was one person on this board or anywhere else that advocated taking rg3 over luck.

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Re: Their has been much debate about keeping Tannehill
Posted by: THE Truth ()
Date: January 05, 2014 01:49PM

berkeley223 Wrote:
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> I don't think there was one person on this board
> or anywhere else that advocated taking rg3 over
> luck.


I liked them both. I thought Luck was more of a sure thing and that RG3 had a higher ceiling. I wouldn't have been upset with either of them at #1.

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Re: Their has been much debate about keeping Tannehill
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: January 05, 2014 01:52PM

really? luck was the surest thing to a franchise QB in the draft in many many years. RG3 was small and played in a gimmick offense. I don't think taking luck 2d was even debatable.

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