I think 1st and foremost it has too be what Jonathin Martin did midway through the season. Totally screwed the offensive line, and made this team face undue criticism from the media, and talking heads. Why did this defense collapse? Why couldn't this team stop the run? What happened to the new, and improved line backers? Ultimately Fireland made all these choices, and he along with Philbin should be run out of town. This is the only thing that can possibly give the fans hope that this crap of a collapse won't happen again. Really did any of us expect to play 2 lousy games at the end of the season that is coaching. Tear it apart, and rebuild it because this fan base deserves better. From the start throwing money at a problem never solves it. So I expect a new front office, and all new coaches any thing else, and this fan base will revolt.

to me the ireland/incog crap helped, not hurt this team. Martin was worse than both Clabo and McKinnie and forced us to replace him. Garner and Brenner were better than Incog so no loss there. Plus the "us against the world" stuff brought this team together for a few weeks which translated into the win streak we saw before running out of steam. believe me it wasn't the coaching that brought the team together

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The beatings will continue until morale improves.

We have had a lot of draft picks in the last 2 years and haven't made much of them. I put this on Ireland but I am sure the coach has some input. Since Philbin brought Sherman in he may need to go also, although I am not sure who would come here


We should hold martin's contract until it expires unless someone offers us good value

We spent a lot in an off-season without a lot of FA talent. Wallace would have been more productive with a QB that can throw the deep ball. Must have missed him 6-10 times over the season

Guys What was our offensive and defensive identity? That was the problem we did not do anything well on both sides of the ball. That is coaching and personnel so time to clean house and start over.

our offensive identity was to throw every down. but not particularly well. our defensive identity was to fold when it mattered most. we had more success at that.

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The beatings will continue until morale improves.

Ireland's moves this off-season all back fired with the exception of Grimes. He has to go and I think by association, Philbin has to go also, won't get a good GM candidate to come here if he's saddled with a lame duck HC. Clean house Ross

If they don't clean house every dolphin fan you know better not buy a damn thing from this team and imperative we do not support this franchise until our coaches are LONG GONE.

I'd like to see Ireland's evaluation report in spreadsheet form on T-hill, Russell Wilson, and Nick Foles.

Tell me anyone who wouldn't take either of those 2 other guys over our converted WR who did nothing notable at A&M, but get his coach fired.

The #8 overall pick mind you. Really?!!

I agree were not in the play offs because Ryan Tannehill could not Beat Thadeus Lewis or Geno Smith need I say more. He is clearly the reason were not in the playoffs and he will be replaced by the new coach who brings in a totally new system with his type of QB. Sorry but this will happen or Ross is going to have one hell of a backlash.

I'm all for a complete housecleaning. I wanted Ireland fired along with Sparano... there should be no trace of Parcells in the organization (other than a few players). I knew Philbin and his "system" was a poor choice, and his hiring of his pal Sherman made it worse. Coyle also turned out to be a bad pick; in 2 years he (and Ireland's LB swap) turned a Top 5 run defense into a Bottom 5 run defense. Should he get any credit for the INTs and big plays by Grimes and "Part-Time" Patterson, or was that just the players making plays?

In two years, Ireland and the coaching staff neutered the running game (can't convert on 3rd and short) and decimated the run defense. For all of their faults and poor decisions, this regime was in the position of rolling right into the playoffs without having to rely on help from anyone else. All they had to do was win against two teams in disarray with young QBs. It's all on the line, so what do they do? They play their worst games of all. They were out-coached, unprepared, unmotivated, and unemotional... they've become a team of Philbins.

Dolphins kept running same 4th and inch play that had not worked all year.

Sick of Sherman

The old expression "if it aint broke dont fix it"...thats exactly what Coyle did with the run defence,so sack him.

Ireland bringing in piss poor linebackers and brought in stop gap offensive lineman,while letting playmakers leave (Bush),so sack him.

Sherman utilising the most un imaginative play calling and stalling the offense time and again,so sack him.

marcsbros Wrote:
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> The old expression "if it aint broke dont fix
> it"...thats exactly what Coyle did with the run
> defence,so sack him.
>
> Ireland bringing in piss poor linebackers and
> brought in stop gap offensive lineman,while
> letting playmakers leave (Bush),so sack him.
>
> Sherman utilising the most un imaginative play
> calling and stalling the offense time and again,so
> sack him.


Philbin stood by doing nothing for 2 years while his coordinators wrecked the team... so sack him, too! Actually, they were probably following Philbin's plans for his perfect system.



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god amen.

Okay, after we let Lousaka go, we don't have a big back.

Our biggest back is Daniel Thomas.

Even so, when the situation is 4th and inches or 4th and 1 yard, INSIDE THE OPPONENT'S FIVE YARD LINE, .................

what is the play that is run?

Do they run a quarterback sneak (remember we just need a first down, not necessarily a touchdown)?

Answer: No.

Do they give the ball to Daniel Thomas to have him run up the middle?

Answer: No.

Do they figure this might be a good play to see how good our TE/FB Charles Clay might be at fullback?

Answer: NO.

Do we fake the run and throw a pass?

Answer: No, maybe one time, as I recall.

Do we have even Daniel Thomas charging at the line of scrimmage AT THE SNAP OF THE BALL just to have Tanny turn around and give him the ball?

Answer: No.

What play do we run?????????????????????

We have 1) Tanny take the snap,
2) turn around go back three steps WHERE LAMAR MILLER IS WAITING,
3) Tanny then gives the ball to Lamar......
with the hopes that he will "juke" his way through the elephants (or whoever on this board said they rely on Lamar for speed, I hope you don't think this is a play that depends on speed) and
4) Lamar is promptly stuffed.

If you don't think this calls for the firing of everyone on the offensive coaching staff AND THE HEAD COACH AS WELL, I'd like for the Philbin defenders to tell me just what the hell a head coach does if not exercising an approval or veto over a play like that.

and if he is so respectful of his buddy Sherman that he is unwilling to veto such crazy plays, then why shouldn't he be fired ALONG WITH SHERMAN?

I really don't understand you guys who call for Sherman's head because of his playcalling, in crucial situations, and somehow don't think that if that playcalling is SO BAD THAT YOU WANT TO FIRE THE OC, then why would you not fire the HC who continues to NOT overrule those playcalls.

Ive just seen Philbins press conference he told me everything i needed to know just by his facial expressions,the wry smile and frowning when asked about ridding the team of Sherman, it was a look of "Get rid of my mate,my old pal,my buddy??...i couldnt do that!!". So with that in mind,and his whole demenour of "oh well,we will have another go next season", he has to go.

He might have to get rid of his buddy or lose his job

We draft either Tyler Gaffney or Andre Williams. We need a power back that can move the pile. Also at least 3 new offensive linemen. Also get old players healthy. I think this team isn't far away we just need more talent on both sides of the ball. However we could of easily finished at least 10-6 so we aren't that far away. However major changes need to be made or this team will just fade away in mediocrity.

Finshady Wrote:
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> Guys What was our offensive and defensive
> identity? That was the problem we did not do
> anything well on both sides of the ball. That is
> coaching and personnel so time to clean house and
> start over.

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I wouldn't say clean house; what I would say is to get at least two starters for the OL, at least one ILB, at least one DB, maybe two, and either bring in another OC (that has a philosophy similar to Sherman but knows how and when to use his personnel), or if Sherman stays, to work with him and get the most out of the players by using smart plays suited to their talents.

I would also get a FB and change up the offensive philosophy, somewhat. Miami was terrible on the short yardage plays.

Chyren Tyler Gaffney solves this problem for us he is the best power back beside Andre williams in this draft. Either one of them, and we will be alot better on offense next year. Thomas does not run hard, and gets hurt way too often. By the way after watching Johnny football i would love for him to play in Miami, but that won't happen I'm afraid. He is one hell of a talent. Russell Wilson with more speed, and accuracy. Damn Maybe Tannehill can go back to receiver.

Sssshhh Finshady with that last kinda talk about Tanny doing a little receiving. I was almost firing-squaded for saying that during his first year.

BTW, did you see Bret Hundley today?????

First, just threw a long bomb that hit his receiver in stride for a million yard rainbow touchdown AND THEN

.....

broke free on a run of his own for a 40 plus touchdown.

Brett Hundley is a stud, top 10 if he comes out. Trade Tannehill for a top pick and take him

LOL.



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ChyrenB Wrote:
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> I would also get a FB and change up the offensive
> philosophy, somewhat. Miami was terrible on the
> short yardage plays.
>
> Well we had a short yardage specialist in Lousaka
> Polite. When I griped about them getting rid of
> him, I was not exactly blasted by the people on
> this board but everyone seemed puzzled and pointed
> out to me that he only gained a measly amount of
> yardage in that year.
>
> But I tried to preach how those were critical few
> yards.
>
> We saw how critical this year as we can lay two or
> maybe three defeats to failures to convert short
> yardage 3rd or 4th downs.

It wasn't just the measly amount of yards, it was his overall production tailed off. This was proven by the fact that he didn't do much of anything after he was done with the PHins.

After leaving us, he was active for a total of one game with the Patsies, then six games with the Falcons where he rushed for a grand total of zero yards on zero carries but caught one pass for eight yards. Not exactly crucial yardage when you get eight yards on one pass over two seasons.

He'd finished his seventh year in the NFL as his final year with the Phins. I guess he was towards the end of his productive years at that point. Which is a shame because I was a huge fan of Polite.

Polite took too many nasty hits as a lead blocker and subjected his body to ruin. The kid was a tuff SOB but eventually that kind of tuffness catches up to ya...

That's the nature of the N F L.

No mercy.

Use it. Lose it.

Then you're gone.

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> I would also get a FB and change up the offensive
> philosophy, somewhat. Miami was terrible on the
> short yardage plays.
>
> Well we had a short yardage specialist in Lousaka
> Polite. When I griped about them getting rid of
> him, I was not exactly blasted by the people on
> this board but everyone seemed puzzled and pointed
> out to me that he only gained a measly amount of
> yardage in that year.
>
> But I tried to preach how those were critical few
> yards.
>
> We saw how critical this year as we can lay two or
> maybe three defeats to failures to convert short
> yardage 3rd or 4th downs.

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Yeah, I remember Polite. I, for one, never mentioned his yardage because his main role was picking up 3rd/4th and short, and he did extremely well at that. I was rather surprised when Philbin let him go.

Yeah, JC a guy who only is good at picking up 1 or 2 yards is really not going to have much of a market in the NFL in general but boy could we have used him this year to do PRECISELY that which is what he did for us before...just sayin' same thing Cap is saying.

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> Yeah, JC a guy who only is good at picking up 1 or
> 2 yards is really not going to have much of a
> market in the NFL in general but boy could we have
> used him this year to do PRECISELY that which is
> what he did for us before...just sayin' same thing
> Cap is saying.

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Well, Chyren, don't blame you for agreeing with me; after all, I am the genius of this board.