He said he should have been jumping back over the top of guys on the long balls that were short... He said that is the part of his game he needs to work on... He says he is always trying to take every long pass for a TD "full stride". Instead of just getting the first down by catching the ball... He said he needs to just focus on the ball, not trying always to keep his full stride when the ball is in the air... Never blamed RT once....

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That's cool of him. Shows character. Now what about all the balls he dropped?

GO DOLPHINS!!!!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/30/2013 01:04PM by TreasurecoastPhinsfan.

It's classy but not too helpful of the situation. I've seen Tanny UNDERTHROW him as well as overthrow him. And on those occasions, the defender had no realistic chance at an interception.

I saw ONE BALL in that close game that would have sent us into overtime in which he dropped a ball.

Now Brandon Marshall on the other hand, dropped A LOT OF BALLS, ironically only in the endzone.

Wallace is sticking up for Tanny and certainly I, as the person who blasted BM for downtalking his QB at the Pro Bowl, cannot be too blaming of that but on the other hand, if we ignore the problem, it will never be solved.

Wallace is a one trick pony.

that corner fade he dropped yesterday was such a poorly run route. he was supposed to fake in, and had he done that, would have been all alone in the corner. instead he made some half assed move to the inside that did nothing to redirect the corner.

he also runs like a girl

Whoa, a negative comment from you jsm08?

Did anyone see the pass that ended the Bears season yesterday? Randall Cobb was wide open by a mile, he had to stop and wait for the pass from Rodgers, RT17 will work on this area of need, and I'm sure he'll improve. Relax everyone.

Tanny has thrown more on target and were dropped. I saw it live in person yesterday. Perfect in the hands and dropped. Your blaming the wrong person. Shameful.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> I only saw part of that game but I ALSO SAW A
> RUSTY RODGERS light up the field during the most
> part of the part I saw.
>
> Tanny's ability to throw with accuracy is only 20
> yards, no more. Pass that he simply can't do it.
> If he does, it is by sheer luck alone.
>
> He doesn't seem to be able to calibrate the
> strength of his throw to match the speed of the
> receiver.
>
> Oddly enough, he has no problem with the direction
> of the throw because it is always correct East and
> West but it is north and south that he has a
> problem with.


21 - 30 yards 9 of 39 for 262 yrds 3 TDs/3 INTs
31 - 40 yards 5 of 16 for 269 yrds 1 TD/0 INTs
41+ yards 1 of 6 for 49 yrds 0 TDs/1 INT

21 - 30 yards 5 of 22 for 143 yrds 1 TD/1 INT
31 - 40 yards 4 of 17 for 166 yrds 1 TD/2 INTs
41+ yards 3 of 12 for 159 yards 1 TD/1 INT

2013 stats for Ryan Tannehill AND Tom Brady, can you pick who's is who? Granted Brady had a down year with suspect recievers, but RT17 will work on this problem, lets not overblow it.



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Got those numbers for Brees, Rodgers last year, the Mannings plural, etc.

Otherwise it tends to look like a cherry pick.

Well if you wanna really be fair to Tannehill, why don't I pull up the likes of Luck, Wilson, RG3 etc. Guys with the same amount of time in.

Because I'm projecting him holic. I'm projecting what I see as his future in terms of what he'll be. After watching the Jets game and not having a collapsing pocket as an excuse (Buffalo had a well known pass rush) and seeing him with all the time in the world, I just came to the conclusion that he will never be an A class qb. Maybe B class but not a class and his deep ball thing is that he can't judge speed vis a vis the right amount of force to put behind the ball.

You could probably have Wallace and him practice on an empty field and he would still miss those throws.

His accuracy when he zips the ball for less than 20 yards like throwing a dart at a dart board is deadly.

Anytime he has to rainbow the ball, he's lost.

Ryan Tannehill
21 - 30 yards 5 of 22 for 143 yrds 1 TD/1 INT
31 - 40 yards 4 of 17 for 166 yrds 1 TD/2 INTs
41+ yards 3 of 12 for 159 yards 1 TD/1 INT

Andrew Luck
21 - 30 yards 5 of 26 for 193 yrds 0 TD/1 INT
31 - 40 yards 4 of 9 for 178 yrds 3 TDs/1 INT
41+ yards 1 of 8 for 58 yards 1 TD/0 INT

Russell Wilson
21 - 30 yards 18 of 34 for 527 yrds 4 TDs/1 INT
31 - 40 yards 5 of 12 for 257 yrds 3 TDs/1 INT
41+ yards 1 of 8 for 43 yards 1 TD/2 INTs

RG3
21 - 30 yards 7 of 29 for 228 yrds 1 TD/3 INTs
31 - 40 yards 2 of 7 for 62 yrds 1 TD/1 INT
41+ yards 2 of 12 for 86 yards 2 TDs/0 INT

Nick Foles
21 - 30 yards 7 of 25 for 153 yrds 5 TDs/0 INT
31 - 40 yards 5 of 12 for 181 yrds 4 TDs/1 INT
41+ yards 5 of 8 for 269 yards 4 TDs/0 INT

Clearly Foles has the best TD/Int ratio, but he's in a much better offense for it. RT needs work, but i'm merely posting these numbers to show that he's not that far off from the rest of the pack.

And again to be fair to Tanny, I can pull up the 2nd year numbers for the Mannings, Brees, Rodgers, etc.

Well, I'm looking at your numbers for Russell Wilson who runs the read option mainly. I'm looking at the great number of plays between 21 and 30 yards and the 528 yards he passed for in that range.

I have said Tanny's strength is within 15 to 20 yards in passing.

The touchdown numbers necessarily mean that, for example, in the case of 21-30 yard passes that the line of scrimmage was between those two markers on all occasions represented by those figures. The same would hold true, therefore, for passes 41 yards or more, meaning that the line of scrimmage was the 41 yard line. and on that Nick Foles was best so what does that say?

The coaches the players the fans have all said that the deep ball needs work, but some of you still want to think all is ok....really amazing.

You can either throw it or you can't and Tannehill cannot.

He throws the ball too flat.

If tannehill underthrows him and overthrows him????


How can it be his fault....?

dolphin Wrote:
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> The coaches the players the fans have all said
> that the deep ball needs work, but some of you
> still want to think all is ok....really amazing.
>
> You can either throw it or you can't and Tannehill
> cannot.
>
> He throws the ball too flat.

Who's saying he doesn't need to work on this area?

ChairmenB always seems to bring out the best in others!

What a blessing..

Here's to the virtues of Karma.

What goes around comes around.

Sort of like a circle jerk. But not.

BNF.

Just give up CB. The same group that had the man crush on Henne is now hot for Tanne. They will blame anything but their boy up to and including the length the grounds keepers cut the grass

But he seems to have learned his lesson...to bad the rest of you won't.

IMO it's utterly premature to make any definitive judgments on Thill at this point -- and one has to concede the fact he has shown very positive signs throughout the year.

Not a guaranteed star. But not a guaranteed flop either.

His future looks (overall) quite promising. I don't think its wise to dump players like that.

eesti Wrote:
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> No GM worth his salt is dumping Tannehill. Why?
> because they are not butt-hurt, knee jerk
> reaction, fans that missed the playoffs. They look
> a little deeper into talent evaluation.
>
> Wallace is terrible at getting to the ball. I saw
> it all year and I saw it recently vs NY. The fact
> that he owns up to it is a testament to his
> professionalism. That should be a plus.
>
> Tannehill has his shortcomings. No one denies that
> but he was a 2nd year QB that carried this
> offense.
>
> This



Fing A EEsti! Won't add anything to that. Happy New year my friend. I will ride 2013 into oblivion on those words.......

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
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> Tanny has thrown more on target and were dropped.
> I saw it live in person yesterday. Perfect in the
> hands and dropped. Your blaming the wrong person.
> Shameful.

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It's a combination of things.

(1) Tanny has missed on passes.

(2) Receivers have dropped a lot of balls, and if I'm not mistaken, Wallace leads the pack.

(3) Receivers can't get much separation: look at YAC stats.

(4) Play calling, quite often, has been poor.

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> Because I'm projecting him holic. I'm projecting
> what I see as his future in terms of what he'll
> be. After watching the Jets game and not having a
> collapsing pocket as an excuse (Buffalo had a well
> known pass rush) and seeing him with all the time
> in the world, I just came to the conclusion that
> he will never be an A class qb. Maybe B class but
> not a class and his deep ball thing is that he
> can't judge speed vis a vis the right amount of
> force to put behind the ball.
>
> You could probably have Wallace and him practice
> on an empty field and he would still miss those
> throws.
>
> His accuracy when he zips the ball for less than
> 20 yards like throwing a dart at a dart board is
> deadly.
>
> Anytime he has to rainbow the ball, he's lost.

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Chryen, if a Dan Marino clone is sitting there when Miami picks in the draft, grab him, otherwise, we have RT as our franchise QB. I have also advocated and agreed with you and others on this board, that Miami should draft another QB (mid-round) to give him competition.

Now, the weaknesses RT has shown can be worked on during the offseason. I've said it on numerous occasions that Sherman does not practice long balls. Hard for RT to judge Wallace's speed with no practice.

Just out of curiosity...how did RT do during his college QBing days with the long ball? I'm asking because I don't know and am too lazy to look it up.

Something you may be missing also, Chryen, when talking about not hitting his receivers during the Jets game, I will admit that game was not one of his better ones. However, I can guarantee if a receiver was wide open, RT would hit him.

I'm telling ya, RT is shaky back there, and I don't blame him. If you were a QB and had a line that constantly caves in and you find yourself on your back many times during the game, you sure as hell would be getting rid of the ball as quickly as you could and quite often missing your receivers.

On the other hand, someone on this board can probably post the stats of how many drops by receivers on Miami that have occurred throughout the year.

Sherman isn't calling plays that match RT's skills. The Pitt game showed exactly what RT could do. Didn't see that before or since. Hell, even Marino rolled out once in a while (and it was usually effective).

I disagree that RT would miss Wallace on very many deep passes on the practice field with just the two of them.

I also disagree that he can hit the long one, with a "rainbow ball." I've seen him do it, not often, but he has done it.

People questioned his arm strength for the long one; he has shown he has the strength by overthrowing Wallace on occasion (especially lately). I would rather he do that than throw it short, as he was doing earlier, where it was either intercepted or neither of them came down with the ball.

Again, allow him and his receivers to work on the deep patterns and that part of his game will improve. Oh, BTW, I've seen RT get that ball out to Wallace and he has dropped it.

Sorry this post went on and on.