samsam3738 Wrote:
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> Brandon Marshall avg with Dolphins, then blew up
> with Bears. Reggie Bush was avg, and is now
> killing it in Detroit. When is it coaching?


That's an interesting question,

Marshall said that we had no quarterbacking here (although I fail to see Jay Cutler as significantly better)

I said that the coaches here were mis-USING Reggie and that the Detroit coaches are properly using him.

So who is to say?

Check the stats. That hasn't worked very well. The last time we tried it, we seemingly got it but it was reversed on a challange.

Rick

samsam3738 Wrote:
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> THE Truth Wrote:
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> > samsam3738 Wrote:
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> > -----
> > > on 3rd and inches you do a qb
> > sneak....especially
> > > when you have a 6'4 225 pound QB....and a
> very
> > > good center.
> >
> >
> > Didn't we try that twice against indy with no
> > success?
>
>
> the odds would had been better to sneak instead of
> what they did...and tannehill had a huge hole to
> the right of the Oline.
>
> And to do it with daniel thomas who is a dam bust
> is even more insane.

I don't disagree Sam. I'm just pointing out that the qb sneak wasn't a sure thing going either.

Frankly, I don't trust our online in ANY short yardage call.

I was rooting for play action in that situation ir a naked bootleg.

Chren that was tweet by omark....i forgot to add his name at the beginning...

As much as i hate that moron i agreed with that.

Well, SamSam, if his overall point is that you just can't look at player performance as an exact science way of correlating that to coaching I would agree too.

THE Truth Wrote:
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> samsam3738 Wrote:
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> > THE Truth Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > samsam3738 Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > on 3rd and inches you do a qb
> > > sneak....especially
> > > > when you have a 6'4 225 pound QB....and a
> > very
> > > > good center.
> > >
> > >
> > > Didn't we try that twice against indy with no
> > > success?
> >
> >
> > the odds would had been better to sneak instead
> of
> > what they did...and tannehill had a huge hole
> to
> > the right of the Oline.
> >
> > And to do it with daniel thomas who is a dam
> bust
> > is even more insane.
>
> I don't disagree Sam. I'm just pointing out that
> the qb sneak wasn't a sure thing going either.
>
> Frankly, I don't trust our online in ANY short
> yardage call.
>
> I was rooting for play action in that situation ir
> a naked bootleg.


just saying we had to go with the better odds....did you see how long it took for that play to develop.......a qb sneak would had take lesser time.

dolphan4545 Wrote:
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> Stop being so melodramatic. Nobody on this board
> is blindly loyal to anybody-coach OR player. We
> are 3-1, and I want to see how this team and coach
> progress through the year, he and they have earned
> that. Most of the people on this board don't
> BLINDLY call for heads when things are going well,
> with certain exceptions.


As I posted before, am I saying we do a "Lane Kiffin" on him (MEANING SINCE MANY OF YOU DIDN'T GET IT that we fire him when his plane touches down coming back from the game)? I said no.

My post was saying that we should be prepared to get rid of him if he shows, as he has to me ALL ALONG, that the job is over his head.

And as for as calling for it "blindly" see my posts below this one.

dolphan4545 Wrote:
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> Your attempts to equate one analogy with another,
> a favorite ploy of yours, is a basically flawed
> attempt to score debating points. Your attempts to
> pass off your opinions as fact are ludicrous.


Well "hush my mouth"! What can I say in response to such specific charges? You nailed me! Wouldn't care to specify, would you?

samsam3738 Wrote:
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> just saying we had to go with the better
> odds....did you see how long it took for that play
> to develop.......a qb sneak would had take lesser
> time.


If someone doesn't get that point, he never will, SamSam.

Truth is all about justification.

You can always justify ANYTHING with the explanation, "I was hoping to catch them off guard."

However, It is hard to catch them off guard if the EXPECTED PLAY is a quarterback sneak and everybody is bunched up front and you pitch the ball back five yards.

By justification, I mean that Truth glories in trying to strut his football knowledge by giving baseline explanations for all plays that are run in football.

By that he hopes that you will associate in your mind HIM with the people in pro football who are actually PAID to do their jobs.

You will never see Truth criticize almost anyone in pro football.

His constant rap is "that if you see it this way, then you do that and if you see it that way then you do this."

In other words, he talks in circles. He never condemns something or defends it on its merits. He only defends it on the basis that the coaches did it because they thought this or that.

He NEVER ANSWERS whether thinking this or that was dumb in and of itself!

I'm only saying what Joe Robbe would have said.

Joe Robbe would have called Philbin in on Tuesday morning and said "One more coaching game like that and you'll be packing your bags."

ChairmenB is IN LOVE with the verve of the argument!

He cannot help it. He's an addict!

BNF. And not judging anyone. Execpt that one asshole...

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> THE Truth Wrote:
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>
> > > THE Truth Wrote:
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> > > -----
> > > > Anyone care to tell us where Don Shula 's
> > first
> > > HC
> > > > gig was?
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Baltimore Colts, at the ripe old age of 33?
> >
> >
> > What.... No previous HC experience in college
> or
> > Canada?
> >
> > How can that be?
>
> THIS IS HILARIOUS. TO REBUT MY POINT YOU BRING UP
> AN EXAMPLE OF THE ONE GUY WHO WAS FIRED AFTER EVEN
> GOING TO THE SUPERBOWL AND LOSING IN THAT GAME?
>
> Now, I know that there has to be a FIRST head
> coaching job for everyone. That's simple science
> and math. Even when a child counts he has to
> start with 1.
>
> However, the critical difference is that Don Shula
> WAS A YOUNG HEAD COACH FOR THE BALTIMORE COLTS.
>
> THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT FOR years and years and
> years and years, JOE PHILBIN went from military
> high school to colleges to pro teams without ever
> being trusted as a head coach.
>
> Totally different from Don Shula.


Are you insinuating that Don Shula was fired by Baltimore?......oh that's right, facts make no difference to you.

You guys are just giving the Chairmen exactly what he needs!

Like crack to the crack head. Like chocolate to the chocoholic.

BigNastyFish Wrote:
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> ChairmenB is IN LOVE with the verve of the
> argument!
>
> He cannot help it. He's an addict!
>
> BNF. And not judging anyone. Execpt that one
> asshole...


Wow! BNF. Out of the blue. Sorry you think I'm an asshole.



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BigNastyFish Wrote:
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> You guys are just giving the Chairmen exactly what
> he needs!
>
> Like crack to the crack head. Like chocolate to
> the chocoholic.


Like an almost 18 year old chick to me. Ahh what the hell let her be 18 so i dont get in trouble.

I suck her up like i do a vanilla shake. Or chocolate shake . Make it light chocolate.

dolphaholic Wrote:
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> LOL, you're so hard headed, that's not PHILBIN
> genius......It's Ireland!

LOL. You're right. I'm getting my enemies mixed up.

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> dolphaholic Wrote:
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>
> > LOL, you're so hard headed, that's not PHILBIN
> > genius......It's Ireland!
>
> LOL. You're right. I'm getting my enemies mixed
> up.

But that was the main basis of when you started hating him?

Obviously, it could not have been.

I guess it was the loss to the Jets in the overtime game early last season.

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> Obviously, it could not have been.


Oh, my bad, I must of misread the below statement


"Colonel, on your pomposity point, when all he had
to do to Vontae is tell him that the Colts made us
"an offer we couldn't refuse" this pompous ass
started telling him how he was not good enough for
the Dolphins and how they were letting him go
(just like he was being cut instead of trading).

That earned him my hatred right there at that point!"

Once again, Chyrenb changing the facts to fit hi argument.......

What part of "I'm mixing up my enemies" is unclear to you, dolphaholic.

I conceded I was wrong! Now you say I'm changing my facts?

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> BigNastyFish Wrote:
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> > ChairmenB is IN LOVE with the verve of the
> > argument!
> >
> > He cannot help it. He's an addict!
> >
> > BNF. And not judging anyone. Execpt that one
> > asshole...
>
>
> Wow! BNF. Out of the blue. Sorry you think I'm
> an asshole.

Not you. That other asshole...

BigNastyFish Wrote:
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>
> Not you. That other asshole...

Oh the "other" asshole. That makes me feel a lot better.