captkoi Wrote:
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> ChyrenB Wrote:
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> > THE Truth Wrote:
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> > >
> > > That's not unreasonable.
> > >
> > > I was thinking late August before camp winds
> > down
> > > but Mid season or even a little later isn't
> > > unreasonable.
> > >
> > > Frankly I don't really care when it happens.
> > >
> > > The point hat people need to understand is
> that
> > > when Ireland goes, Philbin is going also...or
> > we
> > > are going to have to settle for a guy like
> the
> > > Jets got.
> >
> > RESPONSE: I don't believe so. Philbin is
> > extremely popular and Ireland is "extremely
> > not!"....popular that is.
> >
> > >
> > > It just doesn't make sense to piecemeal it
> all
> > > together in order to give Philbin one more
> shot
> > > with a new guy who almost certainly would
> prefer
> > a
> > > different HC.
> >
> > RESPONSE: Too rigid in your thinking. You have
> a
> > strict hierarchy in your mind that the Owner is
> at
> > the top, the GM is next, and the Coach is last.
> >
> > While that is true in the abstract on the
> football
> > chart, the reality is that if a coach is
> popular
> > and the GM is hated, no way the owner gets rid
> of
> > a coach just because a new GM comes in and
> "would
> > prefer his own" coach.
> >
> > There are many people that would be "just happy
> as
> > peach" to take the GM money and live with
> whatever
> > coach is in place.
>
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> What would be the point in firing the GM in
> mid-season? That isn't going to accomplish
> anything. Just like firing a coach at that
> particular time (unless the team is stinking up
> the place). The only reason I could see doing
> that is if Ross gives the new GM his marching
> orders in that he will begin to evaluate the team
> IMMEDIATELY so he is ready for the off season.
> Would any (possible) GM be willing to do that? May
> as well just suck it up until the season is over.
> Nothing to prevent Ross from talking to possible
> candidates, tho.
>
> I do agree with Truth, in that 99% of the time, a
> new GM wants to bring in his own guys. If Miami
> is winning, Ross won't even bother to look for a
> new GM....why would he? It wouldn't really matter
> how popular Philbin is. Ross could love the guy,
> but if the new GM says Philbin is out and his guy
> is in, so be it.
>
> If the coach is loved and the GM is hated....in
> this case, as far as Ireland goes, if that was the
> case, Ireland would have already been let go.
>
> Being "happy as a peach" would, IMO, only apply to
> a green GM, one who is thrilled to have a GM job.
> Any experienced GM will not retain a coach.
I was we had an "applause" emoticon.