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First pick?
Posted by: jlyell13 ()
Date: March 12, 2013 04:24PM


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Posted by: jlyell13 ()
Date: March 12, 2013 04:29PM


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Re: First pick?
Posted by: THE Truth ()
Date: March 12, 2013 04:46PM

I'm in.

My dream draft right now, after I trade Devonne Bess for a 3rd (or 4th):


1- Tavon Austin, WR
2- Terron Armstead, OT
2- Travis Kelce, TE
3- Jordan Poyer, CB
3- Aaron Dobson, WR
3- Brian Schwenke, OG
4- Jelani Jenkins, OLB
4- Tony Jefferson, S
5- Christine Michael, RB
7- BPA
7- BPA

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Re: First pick?
Posted by: jlyell13 ()
Date: March 12, 2013 06:11PM

I could live with most of the picks. Would love to get barrett Jones. Kid can plays most OL positions

David Quessenberry is a 3rd/4th OL that has great footwork

2nd is to high for kelce. Could get Ertz, Escobar or Reed

kenny Stills or Marquess Wilson could be noce third round WR

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Re: First pick?
Posted by: THE Truth ()
Date: March 13, 2013 01:58AM

jlyell13 Wrote:
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> I could live with most of the picks. Would love to
> get barrett Jones. Kid can plays most OL
> positions
>
> David Quessenberry is a 3rd/4th OL that has great
> footwork
>
> 2nd is to high for kelce. Could get Ertz, Escobar
> or Reed
>
> kenny Stills or Marquess Wilson could be noce
> third round WR


Ertz will be gone by our 2nd pick in round 2, and I like Kelce over Escobar and Reed.

If I take Tavon Austin #1, I don't want another small WR. Need a guy who can line up in all 3 spots.

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Re: First pick?
Posted by: eesti ()
Date: March 13, 2013 04:11AM

To finish off the off season....

Trade Davone Bess and John Jerry for a 3rd round pick (save 3.5 mil on cap)
Release Dan Carpenter (save 2.7 mil)
Sign Chris Houston, Eric Winston

1-12 Jonathon Cooper LG
1-25 Tyler Eifert TE
2-42 traded to MN
2-54 Stedman Bailey WR
3-77 traded to MN
3-80 Darius Slay CB
3-82 Jamie Collins DE
4- Jon Bostic, LB
5- NT
7-Traded
7

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Re: First pick?
Posted by: captkoi ()
Date: March 14, 2013 11:12AM


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Re: First pick?
Posted by: THE Truth ()
Date: March 14, 2013 11:42AM


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Re: First pick?
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: March 14, 2013 11:49AM


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Re: First pick?
Posted by: THE Truth ()
Date: March 14, 2013 12:05PM


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Re: First pick?
Posted by: dolfanmark ()
Date: March 14, 2013 12:17PM

Depends on what happens. If we sign Winston (or bring back Long) and sign Michael Bennett? Then I'd say CB is the likely way to go at #12.

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Re: First pick?
Posted by: THE Truth ()
Date: March 14, 2013 12:34PM

dolfanmark Wrote:
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> Depends on what happens. If we sign Winston (or
> bring back Long) and sign Michael Bennett? Then
> I'd say CB is the likely way to go at #12.


Which QB in the draft has a potentially bigger impact on this team than Austin in the slot and returning kicks?

Not saying there isn't one. Just that I don't see one whose upside is so much greater than then next dozen CB's that I have to have him.

I've seen Xavier Rhodes mocked to us. I think he's more Sean Smith than we need for this system.

I lover Jamar Taylor and Jordan Poyer and David Amerson for our system.

The only one of them I've seen consistently off the board before #42 is Amerson.

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Re: First pick?
Posted by: dolphin ()
Date: March 15, 2013 10:56AM

You want a KR with our 12 pick? No thanks. He is a smaller and not as good as Patterson. That pick would be stupid.

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Re: First pick?
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: March 15, 2013 11:02AM

who is a KR? Austin? Have you seen what he can do on offense?

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Re: First pick?
Posted by: THE Truth ()
Date: March 15, 2013 12:29PM

dolphin Wrote:
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> You want a KR with our 12 pick? No thanks. He is a
> smaller and not as good as Patterson. That pick
> would be stupid.


Stop it.

Patterson is a project who did LOUSY in his interviews at the combine. Since he went the JUCO route as a non-qualifier out of High School you have to question his intelligence and his ability to transition to the NFL...especially considering his stats at UT were less than overwhelming.

Austin is a football player. His production has been far far better than Pattersons at every level.

Yes he's small. He's in the Percy Harvin/Darren Sproles Mold but he's a baller.

He's a WR who can return kicks. He's not a KR pretending to be a WR.

He could be to our offense what Welker and Percy Harvin have been to their offenses.

He might not be our pick. he might not be the best pick at #12. but he's every bit as good a choice as a gamble like Paterson and maybe better.

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Re: First pick?
Posted by: captkoi ()
Date: March 15, 2013 02:00PM


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Re: First pick?
Posted by: eesti ()
Date: March 18, 2013 09:15AM

I'd say we are in pretty good shape considering we have 9 draft selections and are going in with no glaring holes.

Two CB's, a RG, DE and an OT are what we need as of now but we could end up filling at least two more of those positions in FA.

That's 9 picks to fill 3 spots. It gives us options to trade up or take BPA.

It's hard to say what Ireland will do at CB between Marshall and Patterson. Also, to see if Carroll makes the cut this year.

One thing I do know is that we need 3 good CB's to start the season and some better depth behind them. Not much chance we go into the season with 2 rookie CB's again....maybe one and another for depth.

We REALLY need an upgrade on the line. A stud guard would help out tremendously. Better guard play with Eric Winston could be what we need to turn the corner.

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Re: First pick?
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: March 18, 2013 10:12AM

it would be great is some QBs get into the top 11. It seems like G Smith will go in the top 10, if one more QB could squeeze in there, it means we will for sure get a top-10 talent at #12.

It seems like we will have a choice of at least
(1) one of the top 3 OTs (though I don't want us to take him)
(2) one of the top 2 OGs (I could live with it)
(3) Tavon Austin
(4) one of the top pass rushers or LBers

only position of need we'd be out of luck at is CB barring a trade up

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Re: First pick?
Posted by: eesti ()
Date: March 18, 2013 10:20AM

Unless he drops because of a run on QB's, OT's OG's and DT's and pass rushers...we could jump from 12 to 8 with only one 3rd round pick and net a starting CB for 5 years minimum.

I have heard rumors that teams like Buffalo and AZ could reach for a QB just because of desperate need and small rookie contracts.

Mayock rates EJ Manuel as the 2nd QB and some had Glennon jumping up as well as Barkley going to Buffalo. You just never know.

Nobody thought anyone would trade up that high for Mark Sanchez....Jake Locker went at 8 when most said he was a mid to low round QB.

There is also Jax and Cle as a possibility.

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Re: First pick?
Posted by: toko34 ()
Date: March 18, 2013 04:25PM

I'd pick one of these 6 guys if they are on the board at #12

Jordan, Dion Oregon
Floyd, Sharrif Florida
Lotulelei, Star Utah
Johnson, Lane Oklahoma
Warmack, Chance Alabama
Milliner, Dee Alabama

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Re: First pick?
Posted by: jlyell13 ()
Date: March 18, 2013 04:41PM

Lotulelei might be there, but is risky. All the others likely will be gone

Likely picking from

Jonathan Cooper
Xavier Rhodes
Tavon Austin
Maybe Werner or Ansah
Cordarrelle Patterson
Demontre Moore

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Re: First pick?
Posted by: eesti ()
Date: March 18, 2013 05:06PM

toko34 Wrote:
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> I'd pick one of these 6 guys if they are on the
> board at #12
>
> Jordan, Dion Oregon
> Floyd, Sharrif Florida
> Lotulelei, Star Utah
> Johnson, Lane Oklahoma
> Warmack, Chance Alabama
> Milliner, Dee Alabama

Don't forget Jarvis Jones. One of these players will fall to us when the QB's start coming off the board.

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Posted by: toko34 ()
Date: March 18, 2013 05:52PM


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Posted by: eesti ()
Date: March 19, 2013 03:16AM


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Re: First pick?
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: March 19, 2013 05:06AM

didn't Billy Milner have that? (one of our all time worst #1 picks.)
any of you young'uns remember him?

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Posted by: toko34 ()
Date: March 19, 2013 05:48AM

Indeed he did Berk... Bryan Cox had the condition too. It doesn't always present a problem, but the chance that it can and his existing medical history is the reason why Jones will drop. I think he will get selected somewhere around mid-low first round.

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Re: First pick?
Posted by: eesti ()
Date: March 19, 2013 05:56AM

and Chargers LT Marcus McCNeil, Michael Irving, Chris Samuels and even Rob Gronkowski was rumored to have it.

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Re: First pick?
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: March 19, 2013 05:57AM

I remember after we drafted Milner the first comment from some GM type was they he was suprised he was even on our draft board, as most teams didn't have him due to his medical condition. Milner in the 1st, Andrew Greene in the 2d, THAT could have been the worst draft in NFL history. At least we got something from Milner---traded him for Troy Drayton if I am recalling correctly

this was in the shula years where it seemed we were a step slow on info gathering. I remember a rumor going around after we drafted Terry Kirby that he was blind in one eye (might even have been true) and Shula had no idea, asked someone "did we just draft a blind guy"?

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Re: First pick?
Posted by: Columbia-Phin ()
Date: March 26, 2013 03:38PM

1. Sheldon Richardson, DT Missouri
2. Alec Olgetree, MLB, UGA
2. DJ Fluker, OT, Alabama
3. Marcus Lattimore, RB, South Carolina
3. Tyran Matthieu, LSU, CB

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Re: First pick?
Posted by: Jim B ()
Date: March 26, 2013 04:07PM

If we stay at 12...

I believe we will select a receiver or DB.

Austin would be in the rotation right away and also contribute on special teams. The attractive thing about Austin is that he scores alot of TD's.

His size is the only real negative. Don't want him going over the middle.

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