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More Lb'er changes on the way - Wheeler signed
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eesti
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Date: March 12, 2013 03:01PM Phillip Wheeler visiting tomorrow.
6'2 245 GA Tech, 3 sacks, 2 FF, 1 FR, 6 PD HE plays Misi's position of SLB ..................................................................................... “I'm here" You're welcome!" - Kenny Powers Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/12/2013 04:11PM by eesti. Re: More Lb'er changes on the way
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gofish55
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Date: March 12, 2013 03:35PM Dont know much about the guy, but from the 30 seconds of research I did, not really expecting him to light the world on fire anytime soon. Re: More Lb'er changes on the way
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eesti
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Date: March 12, 2013 03:38PM Signed to start at SLB. Misi to move to DE. Odrick to full time DT rotation?
5 years 26 mil! Did not see LBer changes coming this quick. ..................................................................................... “I'm here" You're welcome!" - Kenny Powers Re: More Lb'er changes on the way
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THE Truth
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Date: March 12, 2013 03:39PM So Burnett is safe? Re: More Lb'er changes on the way
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eesti
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Date: March 12, 2013 04:00PM Wheeler doesn't have Burnett's ability to cover TE's so I would guess yes.
Hearing that the #Dolphins may use Wheeler in Koa Misi's SLB spot, and use Koa Misi in different ways next season - Ben Volin tweet Armondo is speculating Burnett is gone but says maybe Misi moves. NE has too many TE's to cover. ..................................................................................... “I'm here" You're welcome!" - Kenny Powers Re: More Lb'er changes on the way
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eesti
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Date: March 12, 2013 04:07PM Old Dolphins LBer Karlos Dansby was rated the NFL's 13th best ILBer and new Dolphins ILBer Dannell Ellerbe is rated No. 14 by PFF
New Dolphins OLBer Phillip Wheeler is ranked by @PFF as the NFL's 6th best 4-3 OLBer, 2 spots behind Mr. Kevin Burnett. - OMAR ..................................................................................... “I'm here" You're welcome!" - Kenny Powers Re: More Lb'er changes on the way - Wheeler signed
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eesti
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Date: March 12, 2013 04:27PM Dannell Ellerbe has the 6th worst pass coverage metric according to @PFF. He's ranked 48th in that category. Dansby was 16th. - OMAR
This is not good. ..................................................................................... “I'm here" You're welcome!" - Kenny Powers Re: More Lb'er changes on the way - Wheeler signed
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dolfanmark
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Date: March 12, 2013 05:24PM Ellerbe was the 3rd best pass rusher among ILB/MLB. Dansby was 35th.
Wheeler was the 5th best 4-3 OLB in pass coverage. Burnett was 13th. Re: More Lb'er changes on the way - Wheeler signed
Posted by:
berkeley223
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Date: March 12, 2013 05:26PM mark what are your thoughts on the moves today? ________________________________________________________ The beatings will continue until morale improves. Re: More Lb'er changes on the way - Wheeler signed
Posted by:
eesti
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Date: March 12, 2013 05:31PM Still a downgrade for MLB in coverage. ..................................................................................... “I'm here" You're welcome!" - Kenny Powers Re: More Lb'er changes on the way - Wheeler signed
Posted by:
dolfanmark
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Date: March 12, 2013 05:37PM berkeley223 Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > mark what are your thoughts on the moves today? I wasn't expecting the LB moves. But, I also didn't think either Dansby or Burnett would be here in 2014, so it makes sense. We already had a young team, and we got younger. PFF called Ellerbe and Wheeler two of the better pass rushing LBs in the league. I think you are seeing some of the "get rid of the guys who don't fit the systems" moves. Neither Ellerbe nor Wheeler would have fit the Parcells' mold, both are too small for him. These makes me wonder if more major moves are coming. Say that Misi is moving to DE, as some have suggested. What does that mean for Odrick? Is he moving inside to DT? If he is, what does that mean for Soliai? You could see more big changes there. The CB market is flooded with guys. I am not worried about that at all. We'll be able to get bargains there. We don't have a TE who can block. And Myers isn't the answer there. He graded out as the worst run blocking TE in the NFL, and the 53rd best pass blocker. Something has to happen here. Re: More Lb'er changes on the way - Wheeler signed
Posted by:
eesti
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Date: March 12, 2013 05:46PM But what was Jared Cook's run blocking grade...pass blocking grade. He was more of a WR from what I read and we still went after him. ..................................................................................... “I'm here" You're welcome!" - Kenny Powers Re: More Lb'er changes on the way - Wheeler signed
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dolfanmark
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Date: March 12, 2013 05:51PM eesti Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > But what was Jared Cook's run blocking > grade...pass blocking grade. He was more of a WR > from what I read and we still went after him. Jared Cook ranked 23rd in run blocking (Myers was 62nd), and tied with Myers at 53rd in pass blocking. But, the pass blocking grade for Cook is almost irrelevant because he should never be pass blocking. He should be pass receiving. Re: More Lb'er changes on the way - Wheeler signed
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eesti
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Date: March 13, 2013 04:41AM I just read where Ellerbe could be playing SLB with Wheeler at WLB. Talk of Misi playing the MLB spot. ..................................................................................... “I'm here" You're welcome!" - Kenny Powers Re: More Lb'er changes on the way - Wheeler signed
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berkeley223
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Date: March 13, 2013 05:02AM so all 3 starting LBs will be new or at new positons next year? Not sure how I feel about that given our LBs were not a problem next year. We have big holes on this team, LB was not one of them but we now made it a question mark. I am not a fan of the wheeler signing, we paid a ton of $$ to this guy who we chose not to sign as a street FA last year. That's the one signing that leaves me scratching my head ________________________________________________________ The beatings will continue until morale improves. Re: More Lb'er changes on the way - Wheeler signed
Posted by:
eesti
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Date: March 13, 2013 05:30AM Our LB'er were not a problem but they didn't offer much big play ability.
Wheeler is making about the same as Burnett did...5 mil a year. I am trying to stay optimistic and see the big picture. I have my worries too but it seems they are getting rid of aging/high priced players who don't make big plays. I have no problem cutting Dansby after he screwed us by showing up overweight. He was lazy after getting paid. I liked Burnett but he is 30 and may start declining. ..................................................................................... “I'm here" You're welcome!" - Kenny Powers Re: More Lb'er changes on the way - Wheeler signed
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berkeley223
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Date: March 13, 2013 05:38AM I don't get the wheeler signing. He's just nothing special. He did nothing before this season, and this season he seemed like just a guy. The raiders D wasn't all that good after all. And yet we paid him bit bucks with a lot of guaranteed $. Seems like a big risk. ________________________________________________________ The beatings will continue until morale improves. Re: More Lb'er changes on the way - Wheeler signed
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dolfanmark
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Date: March 13, 2013 05:56AM berkeley223 Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > I don't get the wheeler signing. He's just nothing > special. He did nothing before this season, and > this season he seemed like just a guy. The raiders > D wasn't all that good after all. And yet we paid > him bit bucks with a lot of guaranteed $. Seems > like a big risk. Overall, PFF graded him as the 6th best 4-3 OLB in 2012. They also have a stat called "pass rushing productivity," which measures QB disruptions (sacks, hits, hurries) per time a player rushes the passer. Wheeler ranked #2 in the NFL among 4-3 OLBs. Re: More Lb'er changes on the way - Wheeler signed
Posted by:
eesti
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Date: March 13, 2013 01:40PM Armando Salguero ?@ArmandoSalguero
The Post-June 1 designation for Karlos Dansby & Kevin Burnett releases means Dolphins get no cap relief for cutting them until after June 1. Not sure what this is all about....contract language maybe. ..................................................................................... “I'm here" You're welcome!" - Kenny Powers Re: More Lb'er changes on the way - Wheeler signed
Posted by:
eesti
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Date: March 17, 2013 05:40AM June 1st cuts means we can spread dead cap money over two years.
I had a dream last night that the Bills signed Karlos Dansby...and no I'm not obsessed with football. ..................................................................................... “I'm here" You're welcome!" - Kenny Powers Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
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