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Do we give up on Tannehill
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: September 14, 2014 11:06AM

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44 votes were received.
All visitors can vote.
Give up?




or run more plays that are more complimentary to and/or suited to his talents? He has consistently shown that he is inconsistent in the pocket. From avoiding sacks to overthrowing receivers to underthrowing receivers.

Is he just a bad QB or is he just not designed to be a Darryl Lamonica or a Dan Marino type pocket quarterback?

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Re: Do we give up on Tannehill
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: September 14, 2014 11:14AM

what tannehill needs is a running game and he didnt had that last year


Moreno dominating is the answer to tannehills problems.

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Re: Do we give up on Tannehill
Posted by: jsm08 ()
Date: September 14, 2014 11:20AM

our entire team was dominated. losing Moreno so early didn't help.

but to put the entire blame on tannehill is ridiculous.

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Re: Do we give up on Tannehill
Posted by: sickofit ()
Date: September 14, 2014 11:30AM

This team has, AS USUAL, myriad problems. Tannehill is just one of them. Lots of people, including me, including some on this board, saw early that Tannehill was not going to cut it. In my opinion the Dolphins should have brought someone else in this year to compete for the job. Tannehill, I repeat, is not going to cut it. Time to accept that and move on. I think Lazor has already accepted it.



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Re: Do we give up on Tannehill
Posted by: fiedlerhater ()
Date: September 14, 2014 11:32AM

What tanny needs is not a running game. He needs stronger arms to carry the damn clipboard. Over and Over the same thing... stop the excuses and sit him. Just simply way to unreliable. Lets give Moore the nod for a game and see how much more efficient this team is.

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Re: Do we give up on Tannehill
Posted by: jsm08 ()
Date: September 14, 2014 11:33AM

you guys are the best.

one week player A is great the next he needs to be replaced.

what a bunch of chicken littles.

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Re: Do we give up on Tannehill
Posted by: colonel ()
Date: September 14, 2014 11:33AM

I don't blame Tannehill 100%, but being at the helm, the guy that touches the ball every play, he gets most of the blame. His "hopeful" receivers were constantly trying to reach behind themselves to make a completion. The middle of the O-line couldn't stop the great Bill's defensive lineman and offensive plays could not get on track. When things improved after half time, the ball was moving offensively, but still throws were off and completions that could have made the game closer never materialized. Every team member is to blame but much of what didn't happen is on Tannehill.

He's not the guy to lead this team to a play off spot, never mind a SB berth or win.

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Re: Do we give up on Tannehill
Posted by: jsm08 ()
Date: September 14, 2014 11:37AM

he had a bad game...made some bad throws. the rest of the team sucked too.

the bills own us. they dominated us in the trenches and cover us like glue.

if he throws for 300 and 3 scores next week you guys will be talking extension.

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Re: Do we give up on Tannehill
Posted by: davdoldew4 ()
Date: September 14, 2014 11:46AM

Tannehill is a BAD QB, take it to the bank.

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Re: Do we give up on Tannehill
Posted by: Hooligan2 ()
Date: September 14, 2014 11:46AM

We're not going to give up on Tannehill after the second game of the season.
Our Win-loss record in January will make or break Tannehill and Philbin.
Even in our win against NE last week his numbers were below average. This week they were better with worse results.
Those underthrown long balls week after week are disappointing, especially in year three of his development.

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The Clown Show Continues



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Re: Do we give up on Tannehill
Posted by: TannyDaMan ()
Date: September 14, 2014 11:55AM

done with him: you don't lose to lesser teams. You have the best deep threat we in the league and you can never throw a deep td. Seriously I'm done with Tannehill and need to change my handle. I will go out and say 8-8 this year a slight improvement over last year. Oh well I'm used to shit play. We will win some games and dominate in others but clearly we do not have the QB who can take this team consistently week in and week out.

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Re: Do we give up on Tannehill
Posted by: Dolphacolyte ()
Date: September 14, 2014 12:47PM

Of course QB's need running backs. Contrary to media propaganda outlets, this has never been a one man show. In his first two years he had noting in that department. Come the third a solid consistent entered the scene and Murphy's Law suddenly showed it face in Buffalo. Still awaiting info on Knowshon. Lamar Miller. Sorry in my book he doen't make it. Now to see what Tulane Green Wave Darkwa and Sooner Williams may bring. Two Rooks. Today everything went bad the moment that elbow twisted. Blaming all this on one person. Totally wrong.

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Re: Do we give up on Tannehill
Posted by: 808phan ()
Date: September 14, 2014 01:01PM

This is what happens when a young QB is anointed as the team's franchise QB before he even legitimately proves that he is one.

At least the Redskins were smart enough to draft Kirk Cousins when they drafted RGIII. Funny how they looked better when Cousins took over today.

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Re: Do we give up on Tannehill
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: September 14, 2014 01:15PM

Jsm0, I haven't even voted yet. I don't say Tannehill is a bad quarterback any more than I would say RGIII is a bad quarterback or Colin Kaepernick is a bad quarterback or that Russell Wilson is a bad quarterback. He is just not a POCKET QUARTERBACK. When are you going to get that through your THICK HEAD!!!!!

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Re: Do we give up on Tannehill
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: September 14, 2014 01:17PM

I have now become the number 2 vote for changing our offensive scheme. Sorry I should have created a third category for leaving things the way they are. Since I can't change it now, let those who feel that way post that feeling going forward.

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Re: Do we give up on Tannehill
Date: September 14, 2014 01:31PM

Yes he got sacked a few times when he should have thrown the ball away.....but I also saw a lot of dropped highly catchable balls.....

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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Re: Do we give up on Tannehill
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: September 14, 2014 01:32PM

jsm08 Wrote:
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> our entire team was dominated. losing Moreno so
> early didn't help.
>
> but to put the entire blame on tannehill is
> ridiculous.

It's always true that no one man is ever responsible for a football loss by a team.

The problem is that it is SO true that it is a truism, like "water is wet."

The quarterback is a crucial element of the team.

Philbin is determined to see Tannehill as a pocket quarterback. That takes nerves of steel, elusiveness AND the ability to avoid the rush WHILE being able to see the events occurring downfield, ANTICIPATE an open man, ANTICIPATE WHEN THAT OPEN MAN might have his route jumped by a defender, know when to lead the receiver long and not overthrow it, know when to throw it short but catch-able when the receiver is behind the defender.

All of this requires an in-born talent that Tannehill just does not have.

But WOW can he throw the short 10-15 yard slant pass on a tightrope while running horizontally.

But wow, can he make something when he sticks the ball into the RB's stomach and pulls it out when the defense commits.

Let's cash in the silver and stop trying to convert it to Gold.

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Re: Do we give up on Tannehill
Posted by: colonel ()
Date: September 14, 2014 01:37PM

Chyren-
Tannehill isn't a pocket passer. He requires plays that are mobile ones. Yet, he still lacks the accuracy, the touch, timing, to get the ball where it needs to be for completions most of the time, even if/ when he swings out of the pocket. I'm really down on his ability to improve and honestly don't believe he has the skills and aptitude to be a NFL winning QB. I had hope for him--now I don't.

A QB that throws short, throws behind his receiver, miss-times his throws just isn't going to do well. That's what is happening more often than not. sad smiley

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Re: Do we give up on Tannehill
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: September 14, 2014 01:38PM

Those who voted "give up" and revoke their vote and switch to "change scheme."

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Re: Do we give up on Tannehill
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: September 14, 2014 01:40PM

Colonel, I haven't that inability to pass when the play is DESIGNED to be a read option. I've seen it on the short pass when he is forced to go to it and improvise after being chased out of the pocket but that is not the same thing.

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Re: Do we give up on Tannehill
Posted by: THE Truth ()
Date: September 14, 2014 02:07PM

jsm08 Wrote:
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> you guys are the best.
>
> one week player A is great the next he needs to be
> replaced.
>
> what a bunch of chicken littles.

thumbs up
smileys with beer

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Re: Do we give up on Tannehill
Posted by: jsm08 ()
Date: September 14, 2014 02:12PM

this is the 2nd week in a new offense. buffalo did to our O what we did to NE's last week.

Tannehill's throws were late. Our new offense is predicated on timing and getting the ball out quickly. He threw late and behind on a some of his throws.

I was amazed that we ran the clock out with 2:29 left in the half with 3 TOs.

I think QBs get way too much credit and way too much blame.

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Re: Do we give up on Tannehill
Posted by: TannyDaMan ()
Date: September 14, 2014 02:17PM

Stop making excuses. He is a solid back up. That's it not a franchise QB. Enough said let's try again this year draft.

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Re: Do we give up on Tannehill
Posted by: TannyDaMan ()
Date: September 14, 2014 02:21PM

Play MAtt Moore see what he can do in this offense.

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Re: Do we give up on Tannehill
Posted by: jsm08 ()
Date: September 14, 2014 02:40PM

Great idea.

We may as well just cut tannehill and sign someone else. I mean he's had his shot and it didn't work.

Get moore in there and sign a new backup. Bring back devlin. He knows the system.

Josh Freeman is out there. Get him in and up to speed.

That's sounds like a recipe for success.

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Re: Do we give up on Tannehill
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: September 14, 2014 02:54PM

Yes, JSM, I have always said that about too much blame and too much credit. That applies most of the time to every quarterback from Peyton to Mr. Nobody.

However, I don't see Tannehill as a competent traditional pocket quarterback.

Take him out of the pocket and let's see what he can do.

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Re: Do we give up on Tannehill
Posted by: TannyDaMan ()
Date: September 14, 2014 03:10PM

I'm sorry but Peyton Manning has one maybe two bad games a year. Tannehill more around 6 thru 8.

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Re: Do we give up on Tannehill
Posted by: jlyell13 ()
Date: September 14, 2014 04:48PM

went to the charger game today and saw QB Rivers throw some perfect corner fade passes for 2 TD's and run from some firsts. Tannehill does not have the touch and may never have it. You just don't succeed in th NFL with 18 college games

He didn't play well in the first game missed several open targets and was constantly behind receivers. At the trnf of the yearwe will have a tough decision like the jets with Sanchez

Buffalo has a decent D so give him a few more games but unless obviously is losing games I dont expect a change during the year unless the Rams want him for a high pick smiling smiley

RG3 could be done also

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Re: Do we give up on Tannehill
Posted by: chatafkup ()
Date: September 14, 2014 04:53PM

colonel Wrote:
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> I don't blame Tannehill 100%, but being at the
> helm, the guy that touches the ball every play, he
> gets most of the blame. His "hopeful" receivers
> were constantly trying to reach behind themselves
> to make a completion. The middle of the O-line
> couldn't stop the great Bill's defensive lineman
> and offensive plays could not get on track. When
> things improved after half time, the ball was
> moving offensively, but still throws were off and
> completions that could have made the game closer
> never materialized. Every team member is to blame
> but much of what didn't happen is on Tannehill.
>
> He's not the guy to lead this team to a play off
> spot, never mind a SB berth or win.

Looked like his head was up his A$$ more than it was in the game

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Re: Do we give up on Tannehill
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: September 14, 2014 06:19PM

He is inaccurate. You cannot teach accuracy. Do the math

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