ProFootballTalk ?@ProFootballTalk 8m8 minutes ago
PFT confirms FOX report Mike Tannenbaum is heading to Dolphins. He'll be the executive V.P. of football operations, starting Feb. 1.

Whatever that means????



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/06/2015 09:57AM by JoeFootball.

Also seeing reports that Philbin still reports to Ross NOT Tannenbaum.......clear as mud in Miami as usual

Firstly, that is not an org chart. It's a staff directory. Relationships are not explicit.

I fail to understand why Hickey needs an overseer. And I fail to understand what credentials Tannenbaum brings to the team other than he built a team that qualified for two AFC Championship games (both lost). What has this man ever won?



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 01/06/2015 12:54PM by cshashaty.

I was hoping you'd be able to answer those questions Chris, not raise them.........

His role is to fondle Dawn's Apontes

dolphaholic Wrote:
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> I was hoping you'd be able to answer those
> questions Chris, not raise them.........


LOL, sorry. The logic of this hire escapes me at the moment.

cshashaty Wrote:
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> dolphaholic Wrote:
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> > I was hoping you'd be able to answer those
> > questions Chris, not raise them.........
>
>
> LOL, sorry. The logic of this hire escapes me at
> the moment.

Me too.....and I usually defend Ross on this board

I will say this: Joe Philbin has said many times that a condition of his accepting the HC job was a direct reporting relationship to Ross. If Ross asked him to consider working for Tannenbaum, the answer was clearly "no" and Ross didn't want to rock the boat over it.

Andrew Abramson ?@AbramsonPBP 9m9 minutes ago
To clarify I'm told that the Mike Tannenbaum hire is an indictment on Dennis Hickey as GM. Obviously team isn't fully confident in Hickey.

Andrew Abramson ?@AbramsonPBP 2m2 minutes ago
#Dolphins had concern more over Hickey's day-to-day handlings than player acquisition. Feel he's better as personnel guy than running ops.

So you have two sides....The coaching side and the personnel side. The personnel side basically outperforms the head coach so you hire someone to babysit the more successful one? WOW.

Next steps....

1. Jets hire our director of college scouting
2. Hickey quits
3. WTF

"Who's on first?

"I don't know."

"Third base."

That sums it up.

OK, So we got a HC, the man with the plan, an administrator with SB pedigree from a winning system and organization, who got the QB finally, installed the system finally, got rid of Ireland and straighten up scouting, after like 2.5 decades, and we bring in this blabbering fool with who no one will be able to get in a word sideways, to fack up things midstream when things are looking to be finally on upswing?!?

Unreal! Only in Miami!

thegreathoo Wrote:
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> OK, So we got a HC, the man with the plan, an
> administrator with SB pedigree from a winning
> system and organization,

Disagree with the above. I may agree with the below.



>who got the QB finally,
> installed the system finally, got rid of Ireland
> and straighten up scouting, after like 2.5
> decades, and we bring in this blabbering fool with
> who no one will be able to get in a word sideways,
> to fack up things midstream when things are
> looking to be finally on upswing?!?
>
> Unreal! Only in Miami!

dolphaholic Wrote:
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> Andrew Abramson ?@AbramsonPBP 2m2 minutes ago
> #Dolphins had concern more over Hickey's
> day-to-day handlings than player acquisition. Feel
> he's better as personnel guy than running ops.


OK, so why not give Hickey a solid ops guy to handle the details for him while he focuses on picking good players? The approach Ross picked only sets up a collision somewhere down the road.

dolphaholic Wrote:
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> Also seeing reports that Philbin still reports to
> Ross NOT Tannenbaum.......clear as mud in Miami as
> usual


And Hickey reports directly to Tannenbaum who reports directly to Ross, but Hickey still has control over the roster.....hmmmm..... Saw this coming a mile away... Tannenbaum and Ross were like two long lost chums when I saw them in the box a couple months ago...

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Nietzsche



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/06/2015 12:17PM by Crowder52.

This siunds to me like Tannenbaum will be running the team because Ross won't be there as often for the day to day stuff. Philbin will still be doing all of the coaching stuff unfettered, Hickey will be doing the personnel stuff and Dawn Aponte will be doing the money stuff...with Marino posing for pictures and kissing babies.

That leaves Ross to spend money and do whatever he does with the majority of his time.

I'm not sure the titles and who reports to whom really has anything to do with anything.

Just spoke with a local beat writer and saw takes from some National press. I have yet to get any POSITIVE feedback on this move and had none to offer.

A bit disappointed in these questions to Tannenbaum. Softballs, one after another.

Peter King ?@SI_PeterKing 1h1 hour ago

In Miami: Coach reports to owner. GM reports to Exec VP. Yeah, that's the ticket. That's some great planning there.

Wouldn't surprise me at all RT @gatorhoops: @AbramsonPBP could this set stage for Rex for Dolphins if Rex takes year off.

Tannenbaum: Says Hickey did good job, hoping that by coming aboard, Dennis has more time to run scouting dept, watch tape.

Jarvis Juice Landry ?@God_Son80 20h20 hours ago

Even some of the most powerful people are under the influence... #TrueStory

JoeFootball Wrote:
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> Peter King ?@SI_PeterKing 1h1 hour ago
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> In Miami: Coach reports to owner. GM reports to
> Exec VP. Yeah, that's the ticket. That's some
> great planning there.


I don't think it matters all that much.

Philbin's contract is up after this next season. You can be sure that if he's fortunate to get a second deal from Ross, he will be reporting to Tannebaum in that agreement..

so sick of the incompetent ross. so now what happens next year when it's time to fire philbin? once again we will be hamstrung by an existing GM (tannenbaum not going anywhere after 1 year) which will scare away any decent experencied coach we could hire.
so guys, let's write off the next 3-5 years as well.
almost done with this franchise

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The beatings will continue until morale improves.

except tannenbaum isn't the gm. he's vp of football ops. i really couldn't care less who answers to whom.

just do what you said...let hickey focus on scouting and personnel. you handle the day to day bs.

I gleaned a good point from my overnight e-mails and correspondence...Tannenbaum would provide an anchor point if Ross fires Philbin next season. But for now there's no getting past the fact that Hickey was demoted and that his ongoing control of the roster and the draft is merely ceremonial now. This is the problem I have with the Tannenbaum hiring...how Ross positioned him. Hickey did a good job last season and was rewarded by being demoted. Not a very motivational act by Ross at all.

Armando Salguero called Ross "inept" yesterday. I wouldn't go that far but this move doesn't invoke confidence by any stretch, given the facts as we the public understand them.