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THE Truth Wrote:
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> Doesn't everybody??
I enjoy seeing all the NUTty things he writes. Its like a long boring speech with all these twist and turns that seem to have no end.
then when it ends.....I go....Loonytunes is done. Lets get back to football now.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/03/2012 11:22AM by samsam3738.
I would have grabbed Gilmore the db from S. Carolina in the first rnd and then Nick Foles in the 2nd or even 3rd. I thought Foles(and the kid from MI State) looked just as good as Tanne in college but I still do not mind us drafting Tanne. It is what it is as they say.
Starting Moore this year would have only made sense if you,
1. Thought he was the long term answer, and,
2. If you thought that playing him would make the team a serious contender.
I don't believe either of these are true. Moore is a very capable backup but he's not an elite talent who can put a team on his back and win games consistently. Also, with our lack of play-makers on offense, and the weakness of our defensive secondary (most notably our corners), maybe Moore guides us to 8-8 and if (big if) we squeak into the playoffs, we're one and done. I'd rather think about next year. Give Tannehill the opportunity to show if he's the answer (and yes that will take more than his rookie year) by giving him more weapons. We are rebuilding, whether some like it or not.
Yes, Dolfanking, I know that you think Tannehill is a terrible Quarterback. We all know.
dolphin Wrote:
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> Is playing Tannehill working??
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> Who in their right mind would say yes?
Hell Ya. This year is an Education for him . Thats all I expected and I got much more.When was the last time any Rookie threw for 400 yds and surpassed Dan Marino's Rookie Numbers? With out a Superbowl team and coach which Marino had the Luxury of having?
14 college starts. 14!! Thats what he started this season with. Basically he is playing completely from instinct. After this season he will have a much better understanding of how defenses are read, Our ofense, the speed of the game. He has things you can't teach, the intangibles .
You people are unbelievable. Andrew Luck would have been nice. But the Colts were smarter and tanked it for him. I am very satisfied with our 1st round pick. That Kid did everything but kick the Fing feild Goals yesterday. Diving, stretching, rolling out......give him a break. He is the best Prospect we have had in 12 years.
DFQ had the nerve to compare Lucas to Tanny yesterday. When I called him on it he wouldn't even respond. he has a history of that. He makes Troll comments that are not factual and then runs away. His comments are meant to only antagonize and nothing else.
We had him so flustered yesterday , he didn't know Ronnie Brown from reggie Bush.
Tannihill will continue to improve and he will be a key part back to our road to greatness. I stress"PART". many more pieces to the puzzle and this next draft will be an important one. I think the better Tanny does , the less and less we will see of DFQ. he won't be back today for sure. If he does , we have facts , stats , and we know the difference between running backs of the Past and future.
Don't let him eat at you Chyrene. We got him on the run.
Oh, DK doesn't "eat at Me" Treasure. I enjoy jousting with him. What I DON'T enjoy is grade school children who can only sit back and call names like they are on the playground.
samsam3738 Wrote:
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> > Is playing Tannehill working??
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> Did playing payton manning work his first year?
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> He had 3 wins.
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> Tannehill has 5.....
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> And there is still 4 more game on the schedule..He
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But by the end of the season, Mannings numbers were quite good. Tannehill is not improving. This should be a cause for alarm.
Because Chyren obviously is just baiting me by starting this thread.
Besides, I tell you what I think every day, and all anyone gets out of it is that I hate Tannehill.
I don't see how Bob Loblaw's stupid thread will make any difference.
I think our problems go back years. If you look at how this team has drafted, it has been horrible. Tannehill is just another indication. We constantly pick talentless players while teams with similar players pick keepers.
Yeah, DK, but if all people are getting "out of it is that I hate Tannehill," this "stupid thread" gave you the perfect opportunity to expand on your beliefs at length.
I agree with you on the GM as everyone knows but even a broken clock is right twice each day. Ireland was right in picking Tanny when he did.
DolfanKing Wrote:
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> > But by the end of the season, Mannings numbers
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Why? Because you want it to? Wishing for it actually. Those numbers do not mean anything . I remember having a -3 Yard average against the jets once in the 3rd Quarter. But we Out scored them by 14 points. (Ginn ran back to back punts into the end Zone.) Numbers can be very mis representive of the real picture. But if your so Hell bent on numbers, why is it you only choose to see the negative ones? How about the Two rookie records he broke?
Give it up Queen, Tanny has you beat at every corner. And will only get better next season. You been learn to accept him or leave here.
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Yea, just keep on thinking numbers don't mean anything. Whatever gets you through the day.
RT has talent. I watched most of the Giants/Skins game last night and saw the athleticism of Griffin. I missed the end of the game. What I was looking for was comparisons not just between this rookie and Tannehill, but between Manning, Griffin and Tannehill.
First thing I noticed was the long throws that were made by Manning, a la Tannehill, to Giants receivers that were not caught. Critics of Tannehill missing the long throws to Hartline was proper but no more than the critics of Manning over throwing his guys. It happens. All QBs miss. Manning has 2 SB rings to his credit. So--while the criticism of Tannehill is correct--too much is made of it. I've seen many throws by Brees, Favre, Marino, etc not caught by hauling-receivers. It happens.
Griffin's fleet-footedness is becoming part of his game. He throws accurately on the run and easily goes from passer to running back. The backs Shanahan has complement Griffin's running ability and that ultimately stymied the Giants pass rushers. I also noted missed catches by Redskins players as well as errant passes by Griffin. This is not just a rookie mistake, it happens to elite QBs as well, perhaps not as often but it occurs, nonetheless.
I need to address coaching too for the helluva it. Shanahan is a two time SB winning HC. I don't like his style but that's irrelevant. He is adaptive and knows how to put a team together. Experience shows that along with having a great QB at his disposal--that sure helps a lot. In contrast, we have a rookie HC and a coaching team, that in my opinion, is still finding its chemistry with the players. Sherman the OC knows Tannehill as a WR and 14-game college QB and a rookie NFL QB. To expect both of them to iron out all the QB issues and to properly fertilize Tannehill for him to grow by leaps and bounds each week is asking for a miracle. We all need to be patient and let the growth continue. It is too early, IMO, for us to be overly critical of RT and Sherman. However, we must be in tune to no progress signals. I believe the advances in QB play now is the occurrence of 3rd down conversions. RT needs to make that 3rd down conversion. He needs to hook up with Bess, Hartline, Clay, Bush, or other consistently even if it's a quick slant over the middle or to the flat. If it requires him to run the ball himself--he needs to do it. When that occurs, we will know that we have a QB who can deliver. That will be progress.
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> Yea, just keep on thinking numbers don't mean
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Quite good? OK let's talk numbers....
Manning finished the last 6 games of the season with a 1-5 record. The sole win coming against Cincy.
Manning threw 8 int's over that 6 game span.
In two of those 6 games Manning had a 50% complete rate or worse.
Manning had two games the entire season where he did not throw an int. One loss, one win.
And this is quite good? I've figure out your problem. Your gauge is broken.
In addition....
Peyton Manning had 43 college starts as a 4 year starter. OVER twice the amount of RT.
JC Wrote:
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> So now you're going on record as saying Tannehill
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> Talentless?
I never said Tannehill was talentless. I said we pick talentless players.
This is just another case of people talking what I say out of context and focusing it as a criticism of Tannehill. You have bought into the hype that all I care about is bashing Tannehill.
Tannehill may not be talentless, but he is not as good as some of the QBs we could have picked up had Ireland/Parcells been doing their jobs.
And I'm not sold on Tannehill as being the long term solution. I don't see how anyone can. He has proven nothing. So far, he has a horrible QB rating and doesn't win games. And if Tannehill is not the long term solution, then Tannehill is another wasted first round pick.