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Running Back envy
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: October 21, 2012 08:50AM

Sitting here at this time watching the Bills game hoping the Bills lose.

Just after I started typing the last sentence, Brad Smith, the kick returner returned kickoff for a touchdown.

Bills have Fred Jackson and CJ Spiller. Both, Big fast, powerful and unstoppable.

We have Reggie Bush. Don't get me wrong, if he can fake to an opening, he's a threat on every play. But doesn't have the power.

It seems all our running backs or either small and can get tackled by a leaf that hits them or are bigger backs who don't have much more power like Daniel Thomas.

How come Buffalo has two and we don't have one?

For those who poo-poo this thread, remember, we have yet to play them and we do twice and we're going to have to face those two.

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Re: Running Back envy
Posted by: dolphin1423 ()
Date: October 21, 2012 09:33AM

Well the Bills invested heavily in the RB position. Jackson was a nice find but now they are paying him quite a bit on his brand new contract. Spiller was a top 10 selection only two years ago. That is why they are loaded at RB. Before their RB worry you too much just remember that Fitz is their QB.

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Re: Running Back envy
Posted by: jlyell13 ()
Date: October 21, 2012 09:39AM

Bush is nice but we need a big power back. Thomas was supposed to be that back, but hasn't been consistent and can't stay healthy

Buffalo drafted Spiller. First year he was a bust but is looking good now. Hopefully Miller matures. He and Bush seem to be the same style back

This years RB class is slim, hopefully we can find a back

Marcus Lattimore
Montee Ball
Le'Veon bell
Jonathan Franklin


WR we need to look at

Terrence Williams
Robert Woods
Keenan Allen
Justin Hunter
Deandre Hopkins

Ryan Swope in later rounds

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Re: Running Back envy
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: October 21, 2012 09:42AM

lamar miller will be a superstar in this league. we don't need to spend a high pick on a back

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Re: Running Back envy
Posted by: DolfanKing ()
Date: October 21, 2012 09:45AM

berkeley223 Wrote:
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> lamar miller will be a superstar in this league.
> we don't need to spend a high pick on a back


Like Tannehill, he has yet to show that he will be a superstar. But we can keep on believing.

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Re: Running Back envy
Posted by: jlyell13 ()
Date: October 21, 2012 10:13AM

It has become a 2 back league. You can't run smaller backer 20 times a game. I like Miller. Hopefully Thomas can get it together or we find a back that can run inside

Stepfan Taylor of Stanford is another candidate

Need Marshawn Lynch type. Maybe trade for Lagarette Blount?

2013 FA Slim

RB
Bush
Rahard Jennings
Shonn Greene
DJ Ware
Jonathan Dwyer
Chris Ivory



WR
Greg Jennings
Mike Wallace
Dwayne Bowe
Wes Welker
Victor Cruz

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Re: Running Back envy
Posted by: DarthHoodie ()
Date: October 21, 2012 10:21AM

Ray Rice does pretty good for a small RB smiling smiley

I like Lamar, I think next year will be all his for the taking.

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Re: Running Back envy
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: October 21, 2012 10:26AM

DolfanKing Wrote:
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> berkeley223 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > lamar miller will be a superstar in this
> league.
> > we don't need to spend a high pick on a back
>
>
> Like Tannehill, he has yet to show that he will be
> a superstar. But we can keep on believing.


watched him play a lot in college, and he's been great in limited touches this season, so I've got faith. man it must really suck being a fan of a team when you think every player is horrible and won't even amount to anything

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Re: Running Back envy
Posted by: chatafkup ()
Date: October 21, 2012 10:55AM

berkeley223 Wrote:
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> DolfanKing Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > berkeley223 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > lamar miller will be a superstar in this
> > league.
> > > we don't need to spend a high pick on a back
> >
> >
> > Like Tannehill, he has yet to show that he will
> be
> > a superstar. But we can keep on believing.
>
>
> watched him play a lot in college, and he's been
> great in limited touches this season, so I've got
> faith. man it must really suck being a fan of a
> team when you think every player is horrible and
> won't even amount to anything

Dolfanking,

Hey man do you ever have ANYTHING to say that is remotely positive in regards to this team?

I don't get you. Most people join forums to add opinions or look for help with certain things but you come on here and spread your negative sh*t and I just dont understand if you hate this team, players, coaches, owners etc so much then WHY THE F*CK DO YOU EVEN BOTHER?

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Re: Running Back envy
Posted by: eesti ()
Date: October 21, 2012 11:06AM

I don't know about unstoppable. Spiller was being touted as a bust before a big game this year. His best season was just over 5oo yards. He had a big game vs the Jets to start the year and another against the Chiefs. Neither defense is that good this year. He has not had a hundered yard game since.

Fred Jackson 1 1k season in 5 years.

Both have 70 yards rushing today and are about to get beat by Tennessee. 26 seconds left and down by 1.

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“I'm here" You're welcome!" - Kenny Powers

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Re: Running Back envy
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: October 21, 2012 11:10AM

Well, the Bills just lost. Or the Jills just lost. 34 seconds left to go in the game, less than a field goal behind, 4th and 2 on about their thirty, What do you do?????

HELL, you gotta try to run for the 2 yards. The Jills attempt a 20 yard pass incomplete.

The Crowd boos Ryan Fitzpatrick.

HELL FOOTBALL FANS KNOW NOTHING ABOUT FOOTBALL THESE DAYS!

That's on the f_cking COACH!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Running Back envy
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: October 21, 2012 11:35AM

We have no running backs because Tannehill sucks. It's Tannehills fault.

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"When you suck long enough, you get a Hickey"

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Re: Running Back envy
Posted by: DolfanKing ()
Date: October 21, 2012 12:38PM

chatafkup Wrote:
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> berkeley223 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > DolfanKing Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > berkeley223 Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > lamar miller will be a superstar in this
> > > league.
> > > > we don't need to spend a high pick on a
> back
> > >
> > >
> > > Like Tannehill, he has yet to show that he
> will
> > be
> > > a superstar. But we can keep on believing.
> >
> >
> > watched him play a lot in college, and he's
> been
> > great in limited touches this season, so I've
> got
> > faith. man it must really suck being a fan of a
> > team when you think every player is horrible
> and
> > won't even amount to anything
>
> Dolfanking,
>
> Hey man do you ever have ANYTHING to say that is
> remotely positive in regards to this team?
>

I've said the defense is good and Reggie Bush is good. But I seem to get flamed for that because I don't agree that Tannehill will be the next Marino and Miller the next Kiick.

If I ever disagree with anyone about any player on this team, then I'm a negative troll and hater. That is all on you.

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Miami Dolphins. Always Perfect.

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Re: Running Back envy
Posted by: montequi ()
Date: October 21, 2012 12:39PM

Aqua&Orange Wrote:
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> We have no running backs because Tannehill sucks.
> It's Tannehills fault.

Yep. Tanny better learn to kick FGs, run block, and catch his own passes if he's going to be any good. spinning smiley sticking its tongue out

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Re: Running Back envy
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: October 21, 2012 12:41PM

Reggie Bush has 64 rushing yards combined in the last 2 games, but we all recognize that it's Tannehills fault.

If Moore was starting Bush would have over 100 in both.

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Re: Running Back envy
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: October 21, 2012 01:12PM

It IS Tannehill's fault that Bush only had 64 rushing yards in the last two games!

He was hurt and TANNEHILL PICKED UP THE SLACK WITH THE PASSING GAME and THAT'S WHY WE WON the last two games!

LOL!

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Re: Running Back envy
Posted by: DolfanKing ()
Date: October 21, 2012 01:27PM

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> It IS Tannehill's fault that Bush only had 64
> rushing yards in the last two games!
>
> He was hurt and TANNEHILL PICKED UP THE SLACK WITH
> THE PASSING GAME and THAT'S WHY WE WON the last
> two games!
>
> LOL!


Defense and conservative playcalling is why we won.

Tannehill is no doubt a decent QB, but he is in no way carrying the team.

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Re: Running Back envy
Posted by: dolphaholic ()
Date: October 21, 2012 02:10PM

Why does anyone even engage DK anymore, it's obvious he's a fan of another team or a complete tool....either way, if you guys ignore him he'll fade away.

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Re: Running Back envy
Posted by: Panteraize ()
Date: October 21, 2012 02:30PM

ChyrenB Wrote:
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or are
> bigger backs who don't have much more power like
> Daniel Thomas.

I swear to God Chyren... if I hear one more person call Daniel Thomas big I'm going to lose my mind!! I DONT CARE WHAT HE'S LISTED AT!! There's no way this guy is any bigger than Pat White!

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Re: Running Back envy
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: October 21, 2012 03:06PM

LOL. Cool down, Panther. Okay. But you know, the reason I really hate the pick so much is that I thought we lost the chance to draft Ryan Mallett. Yeah, he hasn't seen the field in all those year but look who he has to beat out, Tom Brady.

But the real reason I am glad we did not get him is that we probably would not have drafted Ryan Tannehill.

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Re: Running Back envy
Posted by: dolphaholic ()
Date: October 21, 2012 03:09PM

Pat White is 6' 190#'s as a QB, Daniel Thomas is 6'-1" 220#'s as a RB, big difference

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Re: Running Back envy
Date: October 21, 2012 04:25PM

DolfanKing Wrote:
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> berkeley223 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > lamar miller will be a superstar in this
> league.
> > we don't need to spend a high pick on a back
>
>
> Like Tannehill, he has yet to show that he will be
> a superstar. But we can keep on believing.




Your such a ****bag. has lamar miller been up for Rookiw of the month/week honors? Has he ran for 200+yds in a game , the eqivilant of a 400 yd game for a QB? I'm not saying anything negative about Miller and I hope he is great, but comparing Tanny's rookie season to his is about as dumb as Tony Saprano's offense. Tanny has proved he can be a Superstar absolutely. **** me. Hard.

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Re: Running Back envy
Posted by: socalphin ()
Date: October 21, 2012 07:45PM

I up for trading a 3rd for DeAngelo Williams.
They are completely mis-using this guy. If they were using him correctly, they'd be a much better team. That coach has his head up his a$$!

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Re: Running Back envy
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: October 22, 2012 04:02AM

Daniel thomas was doing good until the injury.....he hasnt been the same since.

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Re: Running Back envy
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: October 22, 2012 05:07AM

socalphin Wrote:
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> I up for trading a 3rd for DeAngelo Williams.
> They are completely mis-using this guy. If they
> were using him correctly, they'd be a much better
> team. That coach has his head up his a$$!


hells no! that guy is one of the highest paid RBs in the league and can't even crack 10 yards rushing in his last few games.

guys, we don't need to spend big money or high draft picks on RBs. We've got Bush as the present and L Miller as the future. if we need someone else we can take him in the draft after the 2d round. maybe we can trade D Thomas for a sack of marbles

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Re: Running Back envy
Date: October 22, 2012 07:45AM

samsam3738 Wrote:
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> Daniel thomas was doing good until the
> injury.....he hasnt been the same since.


Sorry Brother, he has always had a fumblitis. Even back in College. But this year he seemed to be a bit stronger then your right he got his bell rung. He's a bust IMO. Thank Tony again. We need to move on.

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Re: Running Back envy
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: October 22, 2012 07:50AM

Here is the bottom line, you can't land on every draft pick.

Your big hope is that your high first round picks aren't busts (although financially doesn't hurt as much anymore).

Outside of them, if they are busts...move on and take the next guy.

I don't think Daniel Thomas is more than a journeyman RB. But guess what? Who cares. Lets move on and find the right one.

Either way, RB's are a dime a dozen in today's NFL. We have way more pressing needs than at RB.

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Re: Running Back envy
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: October 22, 2012 07:59AM

true, but RBs are considered more "sure things" than most positions. If you trade up into the second to take one, he better be something special. This guy thomas wasn't even that special in college---not especially big, fast, strong, or elusive. I remember seeing his highlghts after we took him and all his best runs were like 10-15 yards (big whoop). Compare this to what Lamar Miller showed in college.

I didn't like the Thomas pick from the beginning.

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Re: Running Back envy
Posted by: eesti ()
Date: October 22, 2012 08:52AM

Our second round picks:

Jonathon Martin: Looks like a solid pick.

Daniel Thomas: Jury still out. Not looking too good.

Kosa Misi: Solid pick

Pat White: Fiasco

Sean Smith: Solid pick

Phillip Merling: waste. release by Packers

Chad Henne: waste but now starting in Jax

Looks like we are batting around .500 in the second.

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Re: Running Back envy
Date: October 22, 2012 09:43AM

berkeley223 Wrote:
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>
> I didn't like the Thomas pick from the
> beginning.

Exactly. The minute they moved UP to get a RB With Ricky Williams still in Free agency with some Gas left in the Tank I knew we were screwed. It was wrong from every perspective.

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