The way to do it is through continuity. Right now we still pretty much have that:

Nolan-Good DC.(Many teams would love to have him.)

Daboll- Not proven yet. However he got us our first ever 1000yd rusher & 1000yd receiver, the offense put up more points, and he made an average QB look better than average.(All good signs).

Ireland- Had a solid draft.

So based on the above, to keep these three guys we should promote:

Bowles to coach.(It would be hard for opposing coaches to gauge him being a 1st yr coach).He would be plugged right in and would not break the continuity of the staff.

Next we neeed to Draft a Qb.(Keep Moore and give him a chance & create a healthy competiton between him and the rookie.


Ross is destroying our creditibility by:
-The Sparano/Harbaugh debacle. Rendering Sparano powerless.(Coaches don't like this)
-Handcuffing Ireland as a Gm rendering him powerless.(Coaches don't like this)
-Trying to piece people together.(Coaches want their own gm and staff)

Ross is turning us into the "smelly kid in class."

Keep continuity for one more season and draft a qb and that stink will go away and creditibility will start to be restored and this franchise will be relevant once again.(Coaches & players will be interested in us once again and the guys who did good for us this year will get a second chance to prove themselves.)



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/04/2012 07:13AM by sleekdogg.

you want to keep continuity for a 6 win team that started out 0-7?
no thanks. don't they say insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results? this plan sounds insane.

berkeley223 Wrote:
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> you want to keep continuity for a 6 win team that
> started out 0-7?
> no thanks. don't they say insanity is doing the
> same thing over and over and expecting different
> results? this plan sounds insane.

I'm looking at the alternatives here. Cowher, Harbaugh, Gruden etc all want nothing to do with us. Fisher maybe if we give him tons of money but he stated he wanted a qb and others stated he wants his own gm. So who is left?

This staff we have isn't terrible and neither is our team(they have taken some positive steps). But Iguess we could force a mediocre or no name coach in here and blow it all up and start back to square one and start another 4 yr rebuild.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 01/04/2012 06:44AM by sleekdogg.

If we can't get Jeff Fisher, then I'm actually open to the idea of keeping things as-is for another year. It would be good if could get an experienced HC to mentor Bowles. Sparano had Parcells, but we should have known pretty early that Sparano wasn't up to the task.

What if we hired Bill Cowher as a consultant to "teach" Bowles?

montequi Wrote:

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> What if we hired Bill Cowher as a consultant to
> "teach" Bowles?


why would he take a job as a consultant if he doesn't want to coach? he wants to keep his chushy tv job, so at best we'd be getting him in his "off time." plus that would totally undermine bowles.

honestly, if we can't get fisher I'd rather venture into the unknown than keep what we have--which is AT BEST a 97 squad. yes we got burned with coordinators in the past (cam cam) but it also sometimes works out (peyton, mccarthy). remember when mccarthy was hired he had just been OC of a SF offense that ranked in the 30s. So you never know----the key is obviously the QB

if we keep bowles as HC then expect tickets sales to plummet even further, unless we end up with luck or RG3

IMHO its great to be positive but the environment the Miami Dolphins have planted in the last 10 years is really turnning me off.

What happened to actually valuing winning games? The diehard fans are now happy with improvements from 0-7 to 6-10.

Oh my freaking gosh!!!

IMHO, nobody should have any level of staisfaction for this organization at this point.

berkeley223 Wrote:
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> honestly, if we can't get fisher I'd rather
> venture into the unknown than keep what we
> have--which is AT BEST a 97 squad. yes we got
> burned with coordinators in the past (cam cam) but
> it also sometimes works out (peyton, mccarthy).
> remember when mccarthy was hired he had just been
> OC of a SF offense that ranked in the 30s. So you
> never know----the key is obviously the QB
>
> if we keep bowles as HC then expect tickets sales
> to plummet even further, unless we end up with
> luck or RG3


So basically you are willing to risk losing A DC as solid as Nolan, an OC that gave us a 1000yd rusher and passer and scored a decent amount of points with a pretty much unknown QB, and a solid secondary coordinator for three guys we don't even know exsist or would be willing to work together.

berkeley223 Wrote:
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> montequi Wrote:
>
> >
> > What if we hired Bill Cowher as a consultant to
> > "teach" Bowles?
>
>
> why would he take a job as a consultant if he
> doesn't want to coach? he wants to keep his chushy
> tv job, so at best we'd be getting him in his "off
> time." plus that would totally undermine bowles.

First off, I realize Cowher doesn't want to coach, but why would that make him turn down a consultant gig. It's just money. He's not responsible for the team winning or losing. He doesn't have to do it on Sundays. I don't see what the big deal would be.

As for undermining Bowles, I could see that if Bowles was already an experienced HC. Fact is, he's NOT. Bowles hasn't even been a coordinator. In fact, he's NEVER been a HC at ANY LEVEL!! A guy like that should welcome a mentor like Cowher to give him tips and let him know what to expect. Sparano had Parcells to bring him along. I hate to give the job to Bowles without guidance. It would be like Cam Cameron all over again!!! At least Saban and Wanny had previous HC experience. Bowles has none.

Doug-THE-Dolfan Wrote:
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> IMHO its great to be positive but the environment
> the Miami Dolphins have planted in the last 10
> years is really turnning me off.
>
> What happened to actually valuing winning games?
> The diehard fans are now happy with improvements
> from 0-7 to 6-10.
>
> Oh my freaking gosh!!!
>
> IMHO, nobody should have any level of staisfaction
> for this organization at this point.

So who do you see out there that is available? would want to join us? and would be willing to work together from the top down?(HC,DC,OC ETC.)

You can't just say we suck without a plan to replace what you dislike.

yes I am willing to blow up the whole thing because keeping things the same will never get us even 1 playoff win

hell at this point I'd bring in GB's OC and Matt Flynn, trade up a little for Blackmon and let the chips fall as they may

sleekdogg Wrote:
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> > You can't just say we suck without a plan to
> replace what you dislike.





Who said we don't have a plan? Get a winning head coach (at least someone who likes Touchdowns over feild goals) and give up what it takes to get the #2 overall pick in the draft. Sounds like a plan to me......

I do not pretend to be an expert on personnel, but I would love to see Ross go after Cowher and Luck like his personal health depends on it.

Target the absolute best and go after them like there is no tomorrow.

TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
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> sleekdogg Wrote:
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> -----
> > > You can't just say we suck without a plan to
> > replace what you dislike.
>
>
>
>
>
> Who said we don't have a plan? Get a winning head
> coach (at least someone who likes Touchdowns over
> feild goals) and give up what it takes to get the
> #2 overall pick in the draft. Sounds like a plan
> to me......
Which winning head coach are you referring to?

Doug-THE-Dolfan Wrote:
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> I do not pretend to be an expert on personnel, but
> I would love to see Ross go after Cowher and Luck
> like his personal health depends on it.
>
> Target the absolute best and go after them like
> there is no tomorrow.
Cowher seems firm on not coaching here. Luck could happen but alot of things would have to happen.

There are excellent options for coordinators out there if our guys are not kept.

Raheem Morris-DC. Others as well. Spagnoula-DC.

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"When you suck long enough, you get a Hickey"

TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
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> sleekdogg Wrote:
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> > > Which winning head coach are you referring
> to?
>
>
> Which ever one provides the least amount of
> continuity.
lol you should run for a political office.

just read that the phins will be interviewing GB's OC for HC. If they do hire him, I think it's a pretty good bet that we would bring in flynn.

I like how the team performed under Bowles, would not nmind if he ended up w/ the job. I am not in favor of trading our draft picks to move up even for Luck or RGIII. Draft wisely and get a veteran qb to challenge Moore next year.