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Tom Jackson says...
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: November 29, 2011 02:01PM


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Re: Tom Jackson says...
Posted by: montequi ()
Date: November 29, 2011 02:12PM

So, what should we offer him for Tebow? smoking smiley

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Re: Tom Jackson says...
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: November 29, 2011 02:21PM

Nothing. Although I like Tebow. I dont want him on my team.

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Re: Tom Jackson says...
Posted by: dolphaholic ()
Date: November 29, 2011 02:49PM

Tebow is a PR nightmare for Elway, could you imagine how bad it'd be in the state of Fla? Fogetaboudit! Looks like unless we have a top 4 pick we'll have to trade up.

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Re: Tom Jackson says...
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: November 29, 2011 02:50PM

tebow for fullback

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Re: Tom Jackson says...
Posted by: JC ()
Date: November 29, 2011 03:48PM

If Jackson is so tight with the Broncos organization, he's probably not going to give out their secrets. This could be a big diversion to hide Denver's true intentions during the next draft.

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Re: Tom Jackson says...
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: November 29, 2011 03:51PM

I dont want Tebow on my team at all. He creates a circus that I dont want my team to be a part of, and dont get me wrong...I am pulling for the guy.

That being said, I am betting on us having to trade up...even if we have the #6 or #7 pick. Teams are really gonna be trying to get one of these big name QB's coming out.

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Re: Tom Jackson says...
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: November 29, 2011 03:53PM

JC Wrote:
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> If Jackson is so tight with the Broncos
> organization, he's probably not going to give out
> their secrets. This could be a big diversion to
> hide Denver's true intentions during the next
> draft.


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But who says he really cares. He makes it pretty obvious on Monday Night Countdown that Elway will be a player in the Big 4 sweepstakes come the 2012 draft.

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Re: Tom Jackson says...
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: November 29, 2011 03:58PM

anyone who wants barkley will need to trade up to #2. us or anyone else. bank on it. jones or rg3 could probably be had in the top 10 without moving up. all depends on who we want.

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Re: Tom Jackson says...
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: November 29, 2011 04:24PM

Berk, I am hearing serious rumors that RGIII may go #3 overall.


I bet Luck, Barkley, and RGIII go 1,2,3 on draft day.

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Re: Tom Jackson says...
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: November 29, 2011 04:42PM

so we gotta move up---we're not finishing higher than 4. I'd rather not move up for griffin though, but if we gotta we gotta

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Re: Tom Jackson says...
Posted by: montequi ()
Date: November 30, 2011 02:18AM

Aqua&Orange Wrote:
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> Berk, I am hearing serious rumors that RGIII may
> go #3 overall.
>
>
> I bet Luck, Barkley, and RGIII go 1,2,3 on draft
> day.


Has that ever happened before? QBs with the top 3 picks?

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Re: Tom Jackson says...
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: November 30, 2011 03:55AM

I have to agree i dont want tebow on this team. Some moron would want us to trade for tebow and that he would stink when he becomes a phin.

Heh.

smoking smiley

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Posted by: Thirteen ()
Date: November 30, 2011 04:40AM

montequi Wrote:
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> Has that ever happened before? QBs with the top 3
> picks?

At least once, the 1999 draft, which saw Tim Couch go first to the Browns, Donovan McNabb go second to the Eagles, and Akili Smith go third to the Bengals.

Caveat: Couch turned out to be a bust, and Smith was even worse.

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Re: Tom Jackson says...
Posted by: montequi ()
Date: November 30, 2011 06:32AM

Thirteen Wrote:
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> montequi Wrote:
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> > Has that ever happened before? QBs with the top
> 3
> > picks?
>
> At least once, the 1999 draft, which saw Tim Couch
> go first to the Browns, Donovan McNabb go second
> to the Eagles, and Akili Smith go third to the
> Bengals.
>
> Caveat: Couch turned out to be a bust, and Smith
> was even worse.

It's not like McNabb turned into a HoF QB either. Eeek! I sincerely hope history does NOT repeat itself in that regard. OUCH!!

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Re: Tom Jackson says...
Posted by: dolphaholic ()
Date: November 30, 2011 06:39AM

I'm no scout, but Barkley looks like the real deal to me, haven't seen RG3 yet.

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Re: Tom Jackson says...
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: November 30, 2011 06:52AM

Watch RGIII this weekend against Texas on ABC. I think the game is at 3:30 ET.

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Re: Tom Jackson says...
Posted by: dolphaholic ()
Date: November 30, 2011 07:06AM

Last year Gabbert kinda came out of the blue right before the draft, is there anyone that might play themselves or "combine" themselves into first round consideration? Other then the "big 4" already being talked about.

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Re: Tom Jackson says...
Posted by: Doug-THE-Dolfan ()
Date: November 30, 2011 07:35AM

I will remain a dolphins fan for life, but I am going to follow Luck's career in Indy closely.

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Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: November 30, 2011 07:49AM

Doug-THE-Dolfan Wrote:
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> I will remain a dolphins fan for life, but I am
> going to follow Luck's career in Indy closely.


Unless we get the second pick overall lets say and trade with indi to get luck.

Im guessing we would have to give the hause in order to trade with indi if we get the 9th or 10th pick..........but if we get the second pick overall we won't have to give that much ..JMO.

Thats why i hope we do not win any more games. Just for that.

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Re: Tom Jackson says...
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: November 30, 2011 07:52AM

There still like 5 games remaining and i believe we are eliminated already from the playoffs. Or close to been eliminated.

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Posted by: dolphin ()
Date: November 30, 2011 09:16AM

Got news for you folks, the Dolphin will likely finish with 7 wins which is going to push us down the draft list. I don't see the Dolphins trading up.

Tony would LOVE Tebow!!!!!!!!!! He would be able to run the ball on all 3 downs then.

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Re: Tom Jackson says...
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: November 30, 2011 11:02AM

you got news for us hu?

I smell rotten fish.

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Re: Tom Jackson says...
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: November 30, 2011 12:45PM

Naw, SamSam. I already searched. Dolphin has been a poster since last year. Many of the times that Mia1 was also posting. He just posts sporadically.

In fact, use the "Search" function and punch in "Dolphin" and "All dates."

The results screen will show that Result Number 39 is "Re: 2011 Mock Drafts" and was posted 8 months ago.

Both Mia1 and Dolphin posted there.

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Re: Tom Jackson says...
Posted by: Ken ()
Date: November 30, 2011 01:00PM

We need to not win another game...simple. Agreed however, we need to be picking in the top five...no lower.

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Re: Tom Jackson says...
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: November 30, 2011 02:26PM

I'm afraid you will get your wish, Ken. Not out of any conscious design or strategy but because our coaching staff does not know how to do anything but lose, try hard as they may.

If we have a team down by a lot of points, then maybe we will win but if the game is anyway close, we will lose because our coaching staff, in their best and most sincere effort to win, will make brain-dead decisions that will maximize the odds that the other team will win and if the game is close, as the premise here holds, they (the other team) will win.

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Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: November 30, 2011 02:29PM

final record: 6-10

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Re: Tom Jackson says...
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: November 30, 2011 03:02PM

Thats too good, Berk.

I hope and pray for 3-13.

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Posted by: dolphaholic ()
Date: November 30, 2011 03:09PM

I say 5-11

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Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: November 30, 2011 03:13PM

I think we will beat the jets and bills, and probably the eagles or raiders. we will lose to one of those, and the pats. That makes 6 wins. I hope we don't, that would set us back another 10 years, b/c with matt moore next year and for the forseeable future, we are a 7-9 team and still no QB. Best case---we beat only the jets and are able to pick barkely without trading up, or without giving up the farm to trade up just 2-3 spots. If we win 6, forget it, we'd need to give up to much to get to #2 (where we'd need to be to get barkely for sure) and we won't do it.

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